Open Letter To Ukrainian President
Danylo Halytskyj
Just as once the cossacks wrote a letter to the sultan I am taking this opportunity to continue this tradition by writing an open letter to the Ukrainian president and his Hungarian controlled government.
We are at a major crossroads here. Hungary has a chnace to become a friend to Ukraine or to become a bitter enemy. Ukraine has been ravaged by war and wants nothing more than to be left alone to rebuild and become a strong nation. we do not want to become a Hungarian vassal or puppet state as you are now trying to make us. We are glad that we have had some of our territory returned to us but we want to be in control of our domain as well.
We realize that Hungary currently has an enormous population and many active and strong players. We also realize that there is not much we can do to stop you from keeping us under your boot...yet. But, we ask you to remember that you too once had a small population and had a large boom which allowed you to become more powerful. This can happen in Ukraine as well. You can either take this opportunity to let us prosper and be our friend or continue to enslave us and make a bitter enemy. However, one day that boot may be on the other foot.
Ukrainians want nothing more than to control their own destiny. We want our own country controlled by our own people. We stand for democracy and a free market economy. We do not want to be isolationist. We want everyone to prosper along with us.
It is your choice Fabian and those that pull on your strings whether you want us to be friends or enemies. With the amount of enemies you already have in the eWorld it may be wise to start making more friends. The last couple of days most of the laws your government has been passing have not been in the best interests of Ukraine and we beseech you to listen to the voices of the Ukrainian people.
Do not stifle our businesses or our economy. Do not pass laws that hurt the Ukrainian people and simply drain our economy into your private accounts. Become our friends or there will be a day of reckoning somewhere down the line.
Friends or foes? The choice is yours!
A kobzar at the crossroads sits
And plays to pass the hours;
Young men and women round him seem
To bloom like poppy flowers.
The kobzar plays and blithely sings:
In words the tale is taught
How Mogols, Poles, and Muscovites
Have with the Cossacks fought,
How early on a Sunday morn
A crowd has made a rally
To bury a young cossack bold
Deep in a fair, green valley.
The kobzar sings so lustily
Misfortune seems to smile:
"There was a time when hetmans ruled-
Lost is that ancient style;
There was a time when we were lords,
But gone are all those days
Yet cossack glory we recall
In never ending praise...
O Thou Ukraine, my own Ukraine,
Dear mother past belief,
When I recall thee, native land
My heart is pained with grief!
What happened to our cossack realm,
It's leaders red of cloak?
Where are our fate and freedom now,
The standards of our folk?
Where are they all? Consumed in flames.
Or did the wide blue sea
Drown all thy mountains in its depths,
Thy mounds sublimity?
The hills are mute; the sea roars on;
The mounds in sadness stand;
Over the cossack's children now
There rules an evil band!
Roar then, O sea! Be mute, ye hills!
Blow, wind, across the plain!
Ye children of the Cossacks, weep!
Your destiny is vain!
Glory to Ukraine!
Comments
I think there will be an offical reaction regarding the recent events ...
Fabian? 🙂 you're unable to defend yourself and your country.
So you need Hungary. It's very simple
The sad truth is that if you were allowed to control your destiny you'd be TOed on the very first elections and then wiped off the map. I really feel for you but as long as you don't have enough users you can choose either to be a puppet of Hungary or a part of Romania basically. Because Romania will try to get back Podolia, you can be dead sure about that. Not a good situation to be in.
That's beautiful, man!
Nice petition, but if we, Ukrainians, want to have strong and really independent state, we have to ask our friends to join erepublic.
There is also other way, we can create own fund for supporting new loyal citizens and try to invite our natural friends like Poles, Swedish, Danish, Norwegians.
Ukrajinec - well said 🙂 Your words are true and quite to the point.
Ukrajinec - I agree completely and have been advocating for this.
@Ukrajinec: you're "natural" polish friends took away you're high grain region. YOu only have it, because Hungary got it back for you.
Start recruiting people, and you will have a free country. Romania can move up to 2000 voters, if you can not compete with that, you're country is lost anyhow. It was conquered once, i don't think you want to see it conquered again.
@clawy - yes for the moment both Romania and Hungary, as well as many other nations can move up to 2000 voters but once citizenship arrives that will be much more difficult.
I think people in Ukraine are well aware that their country currently exists because Hungary "got it back" - there is no need to rub that in anyone's face. No one here has any illusion that Ukraine is a powerful nation that can stand up to anyone at this point.
We do however wish to be treated with respect and not talked down to. One day you to may be looking for friends out of need and we can either be friends or you can alienate us.
voted 🙂
@OUN UA: i think we have proven that we are friends already. We could raise you're taxes to the sky, but we didn't do that. We printed money for you to survive when it was needed, we made donations for this. Buying a hospital is in disscussions.
Some migth say that we did that for selfish reasons. That migth also be partially rigth. It is in Hungary's intrest to have a stong Ukraine, keepeing Romania away from the high iron.
In either case, every Hungarian would be happy with a baby boom bringing 10k+ Ukrainians to the game. Focus on that.
hmm.. you have a terrible memory and you seem to be very ungrateful...
please use your brain also because the heart is not everything. The balance of these two brings your wisdom...
you will prosper from the next weeks but i don't think such angry and hidden threats would be prosperous (of course except Romania)...
Think it over and try to be cooperative instead of these thoughts.
Voted!
For Shaktar and Srna greetings from eCroatia!🙂
Unfortunately Hungarians are right, we couldn't now defend ourself. They are using us, but what can we do? Nothing...for now. The best what we can do now is to take part in increasing our population.
А потім, якщо подивимось, і якщо що то мадярів витуримо силою 😉. Але нажаль наразі варіантів нема. Або мадяри, або румуни.
Unbeliveable!
We gave back for your territories, witch occuped by Romania and Poland, and after it you will write article like this... Hungary interested in a powerfull Ukraine, but you are not powerfull yet. If we dont't save you, you will fail... It would be bad for you, and bad for us. The minimum that you hasn't want an "own" foreing policy for the protecting. (I really wonder what you want to do/what you could to do.)
Hungary is only interested in puppeted Ukraine.
Don't sell lies to people of eUkraine.
No, we intrested in a strong Ukrain, who can protect Europe and Asia from the romanian barbars. Now, Ukrain can be as strong only this way, but after it has ~3000 own citizent, we will leave the cuntry and discuss they like an equal allie.
It's not a pleisure for us to protect Ukrain against a romanian or a polish TO twice in every month...
"keeping us under your boot."
"continue to enslave us"
wow man, is this really how you see the situation???
You are playing a devils advocate...
Saying eUkraine can only be strong if its puppeted by eHungary is sheer hypocrisy.
If we enslave totally this country you can cry. But not yet. We will make your currency and economy strong. We will build a hospital for you and we defend you. I leave eHungary because i hate the ehungarien politic. I emigrate to eUkraina, because a lot of ehungarien emigrate to eUkraina. So we dont wanna enslave you.
Katzenjammer
do you like to be called the puppet of eRomania?
ePolland is the puppet of eSweden?
I understand that painting the situation like this is good for ex-Atlantis nations, but how is it occupation to free regions?
eHungary did wrong? It was much better?
You can throw words like puppet, vassal, etc. but the fact is that eUkraine does exist now, and her only way to grow strong is trough new players and immigrants.
I'm an immigrant myself 🙂 I'm the MoFA of eMalaysia, and btw we are in a very good relation with Croatians 😃
Maybe Ukraine can rise above this stupid opposition too 🙂
Fact: Hungary gave back some regions to Ukraine.
Fact: With this region Hungary gave Ukraine a legion of Hungarian citizens, who made a TO in Ukraine.
Fact: The Hungarian TOers are playing gods and are not give a chance to Ukrainian citizens to play their own game or at least to affect their own destiny.
If it is a war game, and everybody is playing just for the fighting, it's all right with it. But if this is a social and economic simulation game, that is fucking mistaken to "help" one country's citizens to become foot soldiers of our army, and "help" their country to become our "strong" curtain against our enemies.
@all my Hungarian friends - you keep calling me ungrateful and keep telling me to listen well i am asking you to listen as well. When you make statements like 'you exist only because of us', and "if we don't save you you will fail," and "you must cooperate with us" etc etc. These are statements not made by friends but by people who want to control. If you reread my article I clearly state several times that I want us to be friends and i want us to cooperate but cooperation is mutual and cooperation is not obedience. I am merely reminding you that one day, as you say we may have a baby boom and we may become strong and that it would be best if we were your friends and not your enemies. There is a Ukrainian forum where the future of Ukraine can be discussed but you discuss our future privately amongst yourselves without even giving us a voice - that is treating us like a colony and not as a friend.
The purpose of this article is not to anger anyone but to make you see that we want a say in our future and want to be your friends but merely liberating our territories and then taking all our tax dollars out of our treasury to your 'government' orgs and then on to private citizens is not an act of friendship.
We are greatful that territories have been liberated and this is a great first step towrads friendship but treating us like second class citizens in our own country is a step away from frienship. I am simply trying to make you aware that we exist and we have a voice and a hope for the future. You can either help us and we can remain friends or, as I said one day the favor may be returned.
The choice right now is yours and your actions will dictate how we feel towards you in the future. My point, once again, is not to encite but to enlighten.
@Clawy - if the Congress votes down the lowering of the minimum wage to 1 UAH from 5 UAH as it was raised to 2 days ago it would go a long way in showing your desire for Ukranian business to flourish and not simply strengthen thae stanglehold the'government' orgs have on business in Ukraine now. Of course they will vote this proposal down and everyone will see what you are truly doing. As I say your actions speak for themselves. Words and rhetoric are merely words and rhetoric. Actions show one's true colors. Anyone who looks at the governments proposal, the way they vote, and the actions they take can make a decision for themselves as to who is helping who and what they are trying to accomplish.
As I said the choice of whether we remain friends or become enemies is yours at the moment.
One day, it will happen
One day, it will all come true.
One day, when you're ready
One day, when you're up to it.
The atmosphere
Will get lighter
And two suns ready
To shine just for you
I can feel it, I can feel it.
One day it will happen
One day, one day it will all make sense
One day, you will blossom
One day, one day when you're ready.
An aeroplane
Will curve gracefully
Around the volcano
With the eruption that never lets you down.
I can feel it
And the beautifullest
Fireworks are burning
In the sky just for you
I can feel it, I can feel it
One day it will happen
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Prizma Jeno
I don't mind being called anything, but I did, unlike our hungarian friends here, carefully read this Ukranian newspaper and found it to be thruthful and touching.
That in itself wouldn't tempt me to post a comment but seeing how eHungarians swooped on the poor guy as vultures I had to take a stand for him.
Free eUkraine!
why do you think we are a puppet state of Romania,
because we are friends and fight for each other?
Ukraine is a puppet state because there is no Ukranian sitting in the president's chair, or Ukraine majority in the congress
@OUN UA: first, stop talking behind an org. It isn't polite, and it makes you look like you are just trying propaganda.
Yes, actions speak for themselves. Podolia has been returned to Ukraine. Many other regions have been returned to Ukraine. Most of Ukrainian money out now is printed from Hungarian gold. Those are clear actions.
As long as there are 30, maybe 40 Ukrainians in the game, you can not expect more. Get people, make a strong country, then we can talk.
@clawy - last I checked organizations owned businesses and the OUN UA post is related to the minimum wage which is affecting it's business. If you consider defending an organization's and a business' right to exist and have fair competition then that is your perrogative. I however believe a business has a right to complain when someone is trying to take it down. I want all business' to flourish in Ukraine not just Hungarian controlled ones.
u need Q5 hospital first !!!! then you NEED PEACE WAR GAMES !!!!
it;s simple
concetrate on this 2 things
ANSWER:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/fake-contraries-815122/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/fake[..]/1/20
@Danylo Halytskyj: here is an idea. Make a list of real ukrainian bussinisses, and ask the goverment for some compensation.
The minimum wage is there to take off money from Romanians still working in Podolia. They do it for the minimum wage, so ther more it costs them, the better.
Anyhow, skill 3 wages in Ucraine are 10 UAH. So only skill 2 and below players are effected. Such players mostly work in goverment training companies, the wages actually help them. So this minimum wage has almost no effects on private companies, and is gold for newbies. I would have loved to be born in a country with such a minimum wage, where i make 1 gold in my first 6 days of playing.
In don't need a fuckin' war.
I need a chance to lead my company, create goods and make a hit.
Before Hungary 'liberated' Ukraine, in the only one Ukrainien reagion (Subcarpathia) we was very satisfied with our economy.
We was able to buy our food from our salaries and save some money to purchase a little house. We (Ukrainians) have started a collection for a Q5 hospital and already collected 105 golds toward it.
Now our companies become bankrupt because we can't pay to our employees. Our collected golds are donated to a Hungarian firm and we can't chip to its working. We have become very superfluous in my own country.
If this is a help for us, thanks, we don't ask it.
clawy: Than why the minimum wage in Hungary is 1 HUF? 😃
@Celtis: did you already forget why you had Subcarpatia? Because Romania eliberated it to conquer Hungarian teritories, and we beat them in the elections.
Amd did you already forget why you were able to live in Subcarpatia in the first place? Because Hungarians collected money, which they turned into gold and printed you're currency. Not to mention that they set up training companies.
The minimal wage in Hungary is 1 HUF because that is the best for the goverment. Many players register and quit in the first days, it isn't worth to spend much money on them.
For individual players, a salary of 5 HUF for instance would be better.
For private companies, it would be more or less the same, since no sane private company hires players below level 5, who have their wellness below 50. And above that, minimum wage does not count.
@Clawy - hmmm a Hungarian in Canada who is not a member of the Ukrainian government is asking me to ask the Ukranian government for compensation... Maybe you are part of the mobile eHungarian squad of attorneys? I am sure if the eUkrainian government wanted to compensate us for our failed businesses they would have told us about this since they continually say that they are trying to communicate with us yet never say a word on our forums.
And keep reminding us that we only exist because you want us to - that is a great way to communicate your point and make friends. It also reveals your true intentions.
Answer for the answer at the article:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/fake-contraries-815122/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/fake[..]1/20
thx for your detailed comment😃
the thing why I bring IRL is not the case if there were inter-ethnic conflicts.
I love Ukraine, benn there for many times. From Lviv to Sevastopol evet to the eastern parts.
Why I bring IRL to the article is simply the diferentiation between hungarian and ukrainian eplayers. If they were 2 coherent groups.
That one, I consider to be fake.
Lets leave: "we do have a lack of communication, as you say, but it is on your part not on ours."
this article is for those epeople who act in ukraine and have a lack of communication. eliminate the we/you axis.
thats the message! I dont care on which channels, i dont care who has to work on it the most! everyone should communicate amongst!
that is why i have written this article!
@Danylo Halytskyj: i am in Canada to prevent another that another country, Germany, does not suffer the same fate as you: total conquer.
For me, somebody spending about 20k gold to liberate my country is a friend. Or if not that, at least i can see that it is his intrest that my country stays liberated, so he is a friend on the "enemy of my enemy" basis.
The harsh reality is that if Hungarians would be gone, you're country would disappear. Or in best case you would keep a few regions, without notable resources or strategic importance. Instead of trying to figth us, who make decissions on our money, put energy in advertising the game.
And this is a personal opinion, i don't represent anybody. I am just a lone guy who spent lots of gold on weapons and tickets to help you.
@clawy - what you don't seem to understand is that no one is trying to fight you we are trying to work together but you are killing all the native Ukrainians in your quest to punish Romania.
We are asking to work together and you keep telling us we exist only at your whim... that my friend, is not a good starting point to open lines of communication.
clawy: What would be if Ukraine with an Ukrainian congress and President would be the ally of Hungary? When other countries would attack, it would activate the fellowship and we could fight against the enemies together.
It would be a true friendship and a true help.
But what is the reality?
-- 5 Regions of our 13 total is under Hungarian annexation.
-- On the last elections only two parties competed. One of its the Hungarian TO party. They won the elections with grat majority.
-- Since then the Ukrainian citizens don't get a chance to affect their destiny.
If one very independent observer (for instance an extraterrestrial 😁 look at it, what it will think? Maybe that Hungary is the only one enemy of Ukraine?
@clawy - You are absolutely right! Hungary spent quite a bit of gold to create Ukraine again! I think I speak for every Ukrainian when I say, we are grateful for that.
BUT now that you gave us Ukraine - You insist on running it yourselves. What would be the harm in Hungary voting for UU party candidates for congress? You can still continue to help Ukraine even if you are not fully in-charge of it.
Oh thats right - why help someone if there is nothing to gain from it...?
"so just shut up and try to accept this status..."
wow Benjamin Button
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Katzenjammer
well... there were a fair ammount of flame bait in the article 😃 you must admit🙂
and yes... they took the bait alright.
LLuX
I didn't call you puppet.
sorry guys...I deleted my comment!!! That was too hard and I don't think that what I wrote...sorry again
Benjamin
Surely, it is better to be under Hungarian domination than under Romanian domination. At the same time, dear Hungarians, you need to understand, worst thing could happen for an Ukrainian, is to be under somebodies domination. I am ready to die for freedom.
@Ukrajinec:
the thing is that dieing will get you nowhere...
anyway, this argument is totally pointless.... the eHungarian government screed up the whole thing... eRomania will take you back guys.
wow, so many ukrainan players from bucuresti 🙂