ONE shows it's true colours, eSweden is out!
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by Alatom
Yesterday ePoland put up an NE-vote against fellow ONE member eSweden, it was eventually voted down but not before ONE HQ and ePoland tried to make eSweden agree to their terms.
Pierre Dzoncy Polish vCP terms,
And of course ONE HQ joined in on the blackmail.
eSweden is a member of ONE on paper but the actions of ONE HQ and ePoland clearly shows we are not.
Backgroun😛
A few weeks back eSweden signed a treaty with eGermany for eSweden to gain two more bonuses, ONE HQ was aware and approved it.
Unfortunately our CP went missing and eSweden auto-attacked Saxony thus blocked ePoland for a few days, not the end of the world one might think but apparently to ONE it is.
What ePoland wants is not one but TWO passages to secure their own bonuses even if it is at the expense of a supposed fellow ally.
I highly doubt eSweden will bend over and give into this blackmail, ONE will probably wipe us, but tomorrow is another day and we will be back.
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pertamaxxx
eSweden need a baby boom since strength is very much in numbers in this game.
New Poland is not old Poland just like the current Sweden isn't the old Sweden.
eGermany is ours from more than a year, what you`re thinking when You`ve attacked Saxony ? And don`t lie about offline CP, Lonestar has his password so he can choose other region to attack.
"eGermany is ours from more than a year, what you`re thinking when You`ve attacked Saxony ?"
oh you
Administrating multiple accounts is in violation of eRepubik terms of usage, and being a moderator, Lonestar perhaps respects this to a greater extent than some...
"eGermany is ours from more than a year"
eGermark is OURS!
And we gave our regions to eSweden! ePoland wants to distribute our land? Take it away from those who legally signed a contract with us? Nu-huh.
"Pierre Dzoncy"
When I saw that name I stopped reading.
Henryk Kwinto you know that it's against the rules to have sitters? And to share a password is the same.
Presidents aren't excluded in this, if a president is sharing his password he can be banned for this
Nobody owns eGermany. Today some ePoles behave like the Germans for over 60 years ago. In Real-Life we DO NOT even say that Germany belongs some regions in Poland like Pomerania and Silesia. If you compare the maps from 1914 (http://www.pantel-web.de/bw_mirror/maps/d1914.jpg). You should think how you behave before you act like warlord.
So come on flame me, because without flames it wouldn't be so nice 😃.
"eSweden is a member of ONE on paper but the actions of ONE HQ and ePoland clearly shows we are not."
Pure truth. When it comes to actions, eSweden is a member only in paper. In actions it protects enemies instead of cooperating with allies. Oh, almost forgot - eSweden is also a real ONE member when it needs help...
Sweden is dead.
Poland is ruled by idiots.
We can't expect anything good from both sides.
Sweden need to rise again and Poland need wise leaders.
It will be long road from hell.
The backstabbing from some nations are utterly disgraceful. Not knowing what your role in the alliance is the main problem in the ONE alliance. The lack of understanding in the Polish government and ONE HQ's unwritten policy to always stand behind and always back up certain countries over other countries within ONE will be the fall of this great alliance.
Two days ago MoFA of PL and SWE have met and talk about German regions. We want to get 2-way passage to resources (Saxony and Ba😎 and you want to keep fruits. Why we want 2-way passage? Because if we had only one then only one RW (in Saxony) could cut us off from 4 or 5 resources. We knows this from past that some tanking from teden could easily ruin our economy.
However, at that meeting we show empathy and our friendship to you and agree to stay with only one. For our allies - Sweden.
And what happen next day?
Auto-attack on Saxony. We could understand this, be we expect that you will try to avoid this and if it happen - you will fight to lose this battle. Unfortunately - you win this and we could understand this too, but you should publish article or sth to explain us why this happen and show you are sad for this.
But you didn't do it !!! What more you start trolling Poland, insulting us, fighting openly agaist us (Lonestar hiring mercenaries to fight in RW against ONE orders - agaist PL) - this was to much. We try to easy the tension but we get from you, dear Swedes, only trolling. Until yesterday in your press you publish only two articles abut this conflict - and both was anty-PL. I wish to ask... where is you gov? Where are all this reasonable people I have met on irc who told me that you are our friends?
We was angry to you so we a bit overreact - we put NE voting against you. And as "always" - then we could meet your gov to talk about this matter. Also ONE HQ wake up and start negotiations talks.
But this time we wasn't so polite - we demand all German regions you own - and your MoFA, for your inactive CP, agrees tho this and sign new deal with us.
Polish people wasn't angry (maybe a bit) for this auto-attack. We was pissed off by lack of communication from you and trolling us if you shoud just say "We are sorry".
This is nothing new in our relations. We feel that you "like" your dear, old allies - Poland - only when you need our help. If you are ok, then you plays only for you. This treaty with Germany was great example – it was directly against PL (and German CP wrote this).
To finish this loooong comment:
If nothing change - I will no longer see Sweden as my allies – and many Polish citizens thought in the same way. Now is time for your move. If you don’t want be our allies too - then just say it – every one could go in his way.
And sorry for my bad english - I hope you understand what I want to say above : P
Poland = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjCHD41I7ok
Terms sound good to me.
rah rah rah. Do what poland say!!!!!!!!!
@Tejku, we don't need to say or do anything as ONE already made the decision for us whether to be allies or not.
And besides, is it normal for so called friends to blackmail each other?
There's a lot of talk from Poles about eSweden only asking for help and not giving anything in return, we all know it's not true. If we play that childish game, I could make the argument that ePoland only wanted an alliance with eSweden as long as Poles could get a temporary CS and buy companies for half the price and with the new unified currency they have no need for us, but ofc it isn't so.....
Poland gave you all you wanted in Germany despite our best interest. You disregarded those talks, and decided to get even more than was agreed on - so after coming back to the table it's natural your position was weakened by your continous backstabbing of own allies.
We didn't give a crap about the auto attack. It was your MOD buying mercenary dmg to tank in RWs and orders to fight in that "unfortunate" auto attack that pissed us off.
For months now Swedish people keep trolling us with ethnical slur, while your higher ups keep very antagonistic diplomacy and propaganda towards ePL.
You defended an enemy of alliance against an ally, and you continue to antagonize all your allies and whine when they got pissed by your attempts at sneakiness.
Who is showing true colours here?
Alatom: If you act like friend, then ONE doesn't have to react. If I hurt my friend I apology him. I also try to understand his position to help each other for happines. I will cooperate with him, not with his enemies - and if I do it - he have to know about this. About your deal with Germany Polish MoFA knows from German article - not from you.
So do you are or friends or not?
Do you want be our friend?
You have to answer.... we give answer two days ago when we agree without any conditions to keep by you BaB and other germans regions.
Its a good deal considering how badly we have shown we can screw up even simple things like guaranteeing an ally passage into enemy territory. Maybe we'd get better deals if our actions portrayed us as a bit more competent and/or trustworthy.
"eGermany is ours from more than a year, what you`re thinking when You`ve attacked Saxony ?"
lol...what an idiot
Well we saved Poland from being attacked by Germany now we save Denmark from the Germans its all part of a plan bigger than your minds i assure you all.
"eGermany is ours from more than a year"
Sorry HK, but you can't control someone's sovereign relations. Germany isn't a polish sphere of influence, same with Swedes - Germany isn't a swedish sphere of influence
What about any obligations to ONE then Slapface, happy to throw them away in favour of this scared compact with the enemy?
ffs
And to be straight - the problem is that Swedish MoD ordered Swedes to win the RW in Brandenburg and Berlin, knowing that we are voting the NE against Germany.
People, please, sit down and talk again. Don't let this misunderstanding be a reason for quarrel among friends.
biased article is biased
we want you together!
@Tejku: If every thing you say is right, it's sad, and I apologize.
What I dont like is the "threats" from ONE HQ. So for my sake it (for the timebeing) is a OK treaty (if It's true that Lonestar did what he did, but I want to hear his side to).
And I hope that we (eSweden) can make amends.
So SORRY!
Slapface that's just racism, I hope this does not reflect the attitude of the majority of Sweden concerning Poland.
I will never support this deal.
Slapface, cm'on man, you sound like someone from TEDEN took over your account
33SlapfaceDay 1,611, 07:25
14m ago
INVALIDATION
I don't like Poland I never have cuz 90% OF THE POPULATION CAN'T HABLO ENGLISH AND THERFORE RUNS AROUND SCREAMING PL? PL?PL?PL?PL? IN GAMEZ
Don't mind slapface,It just show us how swedish people thing about poland. And that's exactly ur goverment position. We are enough of ur bullshit all the time. When we got NE u came to talk, NE canceled you left and there was nobody to talk. It's always like this. When you need us we're helping but you give a shit about us. Slapface just prooved it.
REXgbg: There was an order for WHOLE ONE that Germany has to win in BaB RW. This order has been set by SG ONE - Siddy (serguma). Lonestar has changed it to SWEDEN MUST WIN. After few hours he has been kicked from ONE HQ because of that. Guys we really don't blame your community but it's huge fail of your gov.
I this was ePL vCP opinion, what with ePL CP??
Caelo: What is a good deal then? or If no deal? Why?
We did wrong and so did ePL, but we started this. When will this stop?
AFAIK PierreDzoncy is the polish vCP, not ONE HQ.
marko_markovic
My password is impossible to crack, it's a combination of hitting ur keyboard three times with ur fists and then smashing it against the wall 4-6 times so... 😨
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REXgbg: No, we did shit wrong. ONE cannot blame the entire eSwedish community for something it could not anticipate. And instead of waiting a couple of days it is decided by ONE hq that ePL takes entire Germany and we're left with scraps?
"When will this stop?" - It will stop with reason and not with motherfucking threats.
ONE hq's bent knee for ePL is really taking a toll on my trust in this alliance.
so sad
As I see it, we were merely protecting our Polish brethren from being invaded by the barbaric Germans.
A "thank you, eSweden!" would be much appreciated.
Sume people perhaps shouldn't throw stones about others english being bad, Slapface 🙂
Hans - thank you 🙂 I had hoped you'll show some gratitude for throwing Russia out of your core regions, eventually. Truly, you see your true allies when the situation is dire 🙂
Caelo - as soon as you are ready to leave entrenchments of delusions of being wronged, there's plenty of explanation for current stance of HQ in press atm. To recap - your CP might be AWOL but your mod was not. Auto attack might've been an accident, but orders to fight there against ONE were not.
If your mod is buying dmg to be hit there, one could actually anticipate that damage will be dealt.
HQ actually gave Sweden a favourable ruling just prior to this f-up. (Despite your little pact to protect a direct enemy, a pact that was _not_ fully endorsed by ONE, no matter how many times you'll repeat it was).
Frankly, with a screw up like this it matters very little if it was backstabbing or ravaging incompetence.
So Sweden stop crying and just leave ONE
bakerinho: it's sad, but I think I get what is all about.
On one side, they hadn't cojones to leave ONE, or even stand on opposite to PL side, because they know that this will means wipe out. That's why when we start voting NE they come in few minutes to explain everything and told that we are allies for long 4 years and they do everything for us. But when it was sure that this NE didn't pass...
they show the other side - this game is boring, so they are finding fun in trolling PL who "plays too serious". This few reasonable Swedes who cares about allies and future of whole alliance, couldn't be heard due to loudly trolls. In Internet they are anonymous, so they could insult others. As sb told earlier - eSweden is dead, so they couldn't make thing worse. They knows that their dmg is nothing and don't feel responsibility of their acts.
We waste our time to explain, negotiate or making friendly gesture. This situation is just what they want...
Blackmail and threats isn't negotiation in my book, I haven't read any polish books or dictionaries but maybe negotiation has a different meaning in Polish.
I wish we had left ONE out of free will, as it's stand right now we are not a member of ONE, not because we choose to but because the acts of ONE effectively meant we were thrown out.
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