Natural Enemy
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by Enbaros
Well people, you had a discussion. The more time we spend this pointless exercise, the less rank and points we win.
Since nobody will argue that this is bad for the country, I went ahead and proposed it to minimise loses caused by your incompetence.
Maybe the cause of your demise is not external, but internal. Think about it.
EDIT: Here I leave jewels from the forums:
"Rogue proposal; vote no, regardless of whether or not the proposal makes sense." Champinator
"We might as well vote Yes on NE get the damage bonus while we can. Like Leon said." Grimstone. Followed by
"If it is a rogue proposal it should be voted down." Grimstone. Nice thinking. Maybe. Perhaps.
"people should vote it down. It's a rogue proposal" Fhaemita
"Why should we wait 24h? Very simple law. Let's make some dmg with NE bonus. Voted yes." Léon Reno. Finally some sense.
"Lets not get trigger happy. Vote NO for the rogue natural enemy proposal against eBrazil.
"Proposals will have to be discussed here in congress, followed by a 24hrs forum vote, then an in-game proposal." Gambit LeBeau
"Normally I'd say that we should vote yes even though it's a rogue proposal since the outcome will benefit us.
In this case I agree with voting it down simply to send a message. Our losses are limited compared to what we gain." Rico Suave. Wrong, your message shows lack of common sense. That gains you nothing at all. Trust me, I was one of the people this message was intended for.
"voted No, rouge is rouge." Vroteier9"
"But if this had been proposed by anyone else than Zombinho or his ilk the expedient way forward would have been to vote yes since that would have been the most beneficial outcome.
"To mindlessly follow the book is to show no deeper understanding of its purpose." Rico Suave. Well, Shows common sense, and then disregards it completely. Well, well.
"In terms of the legality of this, my personal opinion is one i'll borrow from Thomas Jefferson, observing the law is a high obligation for citizens and congress memebers, but it's not the highest, the good of the country is more important, and if the country can be benefited by fudging the law a bit, i think it's ok." Lord Elrond Hubbard. Lord Elrond has consistedly shown common sense in various occassions, and here he shows it again. I'd vote him for president.
From http://forums.erepubliksa.com/congressional-hall/natural-enemy-proposal-12683/
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"Well people, you had a discussion. The more time we spend this pointless exercise, the less rank and points we win."
You don't get extra rank points, only 10% extra damage
#NOOB
what them shoot him down in flames
@Enbaros: Zombinho will exploit any legitimacy we give him. ANY legitimacy. I don't think the NE bonus is worth that even if his prop makes sense. And since you are in with that crowd now I guess that applies to your props as well.
Zombinho will exploit that legitimacy by doing more damage to Brazil and advancing his medals. Same as everybody else. It is you, in fact, who loses legitimacy. Because you prove how closeminded and irrational you are, not analysing the quality of the information, but the deliverer, without regard for logic or veracity. It is you who loses respect, as people do not respect closeminded and basal people.
No, you don't get it. Sure, we lose the NE bonus in this very short war but compare that to the damage done when a few two clickers think he's a legitimate congressman. It's worth it. Also I don't much strive for your respect, you lost mine when you behaved closeminded and irrationally.
We're already wiped. We regain regions through RW. The proposal is now pointless and is, once again, rogue so it's voted down.
There has been discussion in the following Newspaper: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/natural-enemy-or-inside-enemy--2223986/1/20#comments
Doesn't change the fact we are already wiped and there is no NE against us.
But there was a battle where we could fight with NE and bonuses, so why to lose the bonuses for nothing ?
PTO proposed I say NO to it.
+1. No for all pTO proposals !
I'll say once again just because a PTOer proposed it doesn't mean it should automatically be shot down. I mean to be honest it sounds like the Republican Party. "oh the other guy proposed it, it makes sense, but screw it, i don't like him, vote it down even though it makes sense". Voting for something does not give legitimacy to the PTOers, and if they're right about something, that doesn't automatically mean we should say it's wrong. If the PTOers moved that 2+2=4 would we say it actually equals 5?
The point is very simple. You link any proposal to a discussion topic, either ingame or on forums, or it gets voted down by default. If you cannot be bothered to discuss it, congress cannot be bothered to support it.
Its about mutual respect. Politics is not a solo game. We don't want it to be either. Majority rules. Everyone is all very quick to publically complain when a proposal is denied... so we know you know how to put a position across publically when it suites you.
Now try channel that energy into convincing everyone BEFORE a proposal as to WHY we should support it? Welcome to congress.
I made it into the news! +1 for Champinator.