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I declared my support for you before you'd even announced you were running, I'm just that good.

I can vote for you ... only if you give me 40726 GBP or 40G + 726GBP

Kravenn you refuse to pay a bill for the work performed by the British Foreign Legion and that bill is still perfectly lawful and offers a reduced rate it is not relevant to the article and hows the weather in Sweden??

I'm sorry but in what world can we hold on to a region for more than a day.We are fighting a war on three fronts and are outnumbered and outgunned.This game does not allow for guerrilla tactics so the enemy with more men and weapons as well as stronger players will win.The demands your making are just unrealistic no party could meet them without outside help which is what TUP is trying to do.

I refused to pay only because I never hired your MU. You used extortion. Asking 40G for 4M in a month => I do that in 3 days.

Weather is cool, maybe you should go or you will try extortion with current CP ?
Well, I forget : you need to find a target and you chose TUP. I really don't think that you should a better job if you are elected. The good news is that you are not currently on the ballot box

Learn the game and join the community before running for any position would be my advice to you

CP elections already?

How did the UK congress elections go?

@andy lawrence complete failure but if TUP hadn't disbanded the national army................ not that you care

@Kane12 ''no party could meet them without outside help which is what TUP is trying to do.''
No no party could take them on alone but TUP hasen't been seeking help if they where help would have come we have been in this state for 3 months TUP has made no attempt the party is corrupt and things need to change thats what I hope to do though I doubt I will be elected the day for change will come and it will begin with the BPP

Why do you assume they haven't been trying to get help?

3 months it takes 10 seconds to move and fight we have had no help and who decided we leave teden oh yes TUP

Maximus...



...Wow. I'm actually lost for words at your heartbreaking accusations. You should be virtually proud at yourself for stunning my into cyber-silence. I might just go sit down in my eCorner and eCry.

Srsly, this is the last time i will offer you some advice, i really do advise you listen to this because you dont know what your on about, not meant as offensive just facts ...

"Learn the game and join the community before running for any position would be my advise to you"

@kcirp You have clearly been around long enough to know TUP disbanded the national military and had us leave teden cant remember if it was Terra or Eden but that's not important now if we never joined ONE we wouldnt be in this mess and if TUP didn't get rid of our best hope of an organised resistance we would be doing better than we are not by much but better

@Another War Veteran
To answer your comment on the previous article. TUP are voted into power because they are the largest party the monopolise the elections and there is no way to stop that unless you form a bigger party.
And to rephrase The party is corrupt there may still be some good people in there but the party has lost its way
And to deal with your post here.
Everything I have said is fact
TUP disbanded the national Military
TUP left Teden like I said before cant remember if it was Terra or Eden but they amount to the same thing
TUP got us into this mess there is no accusation simply fact

So basically because you don't agree with their way of running things so your going to call them corrupt.Getting rid of the national military and leaving Eden are not necessarily the horrible things you make them out to be.A national military can be bureaucratic,lose the initiative of smaller MU's and be far less appealing to new players who may want different things from them.

@MaximusV "You have clearly been around long enough to know TUP disbanded the national military and had us leave teden cant remember if it was Terra or Eden but that's not important now if we never joined ONE we wouldnt be in this mess and if TUP didn't get rid of our best hope of an organised resistance we would be doing better than we are not by much but better"

You clearly have not been round long enough to understand context, The military was disbanded because it was a complete and utter mess, The way it was disbanded could of been handled much better but it was a step that needed to be taken, if it wasnt taken it would have just been a drain on our limited resources with very little gain.

Leaving TERRA was the right decision for eUK at the time, it was no good for us, I am ashamed to be in the congress that took us into TERRA.

Even though im UKRP and am meant to be against TUP nobody, i repeat nobody could have saved us from the mess we are in, when there are 3 countries as determined as France Canada and Ireland attacking us and we have little ONE support(due to the whole alliance getting screwed#0 we stand no chance no matter who is in charge.

This is not the fault of certain people or certain parties( although some people havent exactly helped) It is a collective failure of us as a nation, all we can do is learn from this and come out stronger, if your whole CP campaign is going to be based around attacking the current leaders then you will not get very far at all.

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''due to the whole alliance getting screwed#0 we stand no chance no matter who is in charge.''

Id have agreed with that till the last time I checked the map and saw Poland who seem to have profited expanding into Germany. Still the point is TERRA thank you for the reminder may have been bad at the time but would you want to leave knowing this was going to happen? we be better off now had we not I agree TERRA isnt the place for the eUK but neither is ONE

@Kane12 not thats not what im saying yes I don't like the way they rule but I can put up with that Kravenn stealing money and yes the national military wasn't in the best state but that can be fixed there is a long list of reasons why I dont like TUP and it would take far too long to list them all

So your damning them for making a decision which was right at the time and for TUP members not being able to see into the future.If your going to continue to criticise TUP your going to have to drop that point.

Maybe I need to explain in another language that I never stole money. An article in english wasn't enough.

I transfered an hospital and a DS to my own account (because there was an embargo on the org). I bought them for the max price (with money from country account) and once I had money, I transfered it to Bank of England via Moneraty Market.

And Unlike you, I never used exortion to have more money.

the point is they should have considered the chance of TERRA attacking before leaving if they had we would still be in TERRA

@Maximus;

Your grammar and punctuation (or lack thereof) make my eyes bleed. Next time you try to criticise TUP's policies and it's members, make sure you have a Grammar Nazi on hand, because I'll go Japanese Punctuation Samurai on your ass.

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lovely piece of comedy *claps* *laughs repeatedly* I loved the part when you said something like "TUP didn't do anything" *bursts out laughing*.

Well *chuckles* good luck *bursts out laughing again*.

I like how instead of creatively criticizing the article, with evidence based reasons, to show Max where he was wrong and how you're trying your best to get this country back on track... Instead you attack him for his beliefs and try to bully him into quitting?

I, for one, applaud his decision and determination to do something for the eUK. Misguided or no.

Maybe instead of raging at eUK noobies, you give them a helping hand? You can't keep praying for a 'baby boom' if you're going to smother them.

😁 true allow me.

We need leaders who will fight tooth and nail for our benefit - Yes,but how can we beat 3 nations?

We need leaders to protect our country - How? Ca n you do this? No it can't be done.

We need leaders who can hold a region more than a day - Cant be done, unless you have any ideas.

We need leaders who will fight for our freedom- Clearly they are trying

We need leaders to guide our nation to a grand future - Same again.


My advice is to learn about international politics, alliances and

Learn the game and join the community before running for any position would be my advise to you"

@Alfonzy I believe you are looking over many of the comments in this article, I for one think I have offer valid opinions/conclusions based on evidence written in a positive manner

@Maximus

This is frankly libellous...

Instead of screamining about what you see as flaws, offer up some viable solutions to our situation. It's the job of an opposition party to go: "Look how bad they are, life would be so much better with a [INSERT ACRONYM HERE] government". You're after CP.

OK so Poland has some regions, but the vast majority of ONE lack congress including Serbia and Macedonia, and were not the only ONE nation off the map. TEDEN is out hitting and out manuvering us atm.

And if you can claim the British Foreign Legion (an MU that OPENLY admits it will fight for ANYONE given enough gold... which means what? TEDEN against the UK if the price is high enough?). Then ANY other party with an MU can claim the same. Including the TUP.

Also how are TUP "corrupt"? The only example you give is false: Kravenn didn't steal the money he acted as an intermediary. Country accounts-Kravenn->BoE as without a congress we can't get money out.

As for some of your other points:

"TERRA [...] may have been bad at the time but would you want to leave knowing this was going to happen?"

Yes. Ireland, Canada and the USA still consider us traitors due to the (unpopular with the public at the time) actions of the CP two and a half years ago, they then burnt the bridges by trolling us constantly and we are left with the situation we have now.

I saw joining TERRA as a move, on our part, to try and move on, but ally-locked and spoiling for a fight we turned on the only target we had left, after the media was bombarded for 3 months by an invade Ireland campaign. They were neutral, but our TERRA and EDEN allies rushed to their defence, fought against us and ended up actively occupying parts of the eUK.

The general feeling was that we were neither respected or valued and barely tolerated.

Had we never joined ONE, we would be in exactly the same situation, probably worse. We knew it was coming. France was free, wanted resources and had just crawled out from under Poland.

As for the national army... it was bloated, ineffective, staunchly resistant to reform and collapsing under its own weight. Had it survived to occupation, it would have been worse.

"So your damning them for making a decision which was right at the time and for TUP members not being able to see into the future.If your going to continue to criticise TUP your going to have to drop that point."

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Nah, vote for me. I'll bring everything you promisied but I'll look dashing whilst doing it.