My analysis on why Chucky Norris may be the sole reason of SdC's exoneration.
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by zblewski
Related reading materials: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/concerning-citizen-de-champlain-1268446/1/20
Related reading materials: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/concerning-citizen-de-champlain-1268446/1/20
[16:23] [Zblewski] "saying that the evidence is not enough for a trial, and saying that I will basically not be supported by the Ministry of Justice."
[16:23] [Zblewski] The latter part is true.
[16:23] [Zblewski] The first part isn't. I remember saying that the ministry wouldn't support it because you acted on your own.
[16:24] [Adasko] however Chucky later suggested that the evidence is not enough
[16:24] [Zblewski] That wasn't me.
[16:24] [Zblewski] I 😕
= chucky
[16:25] [SaraD] the whole thing is only for Congress to decide
[16:25] [saintconnor] hold on, wouldnt support the AG???
[16:25] [Adasko] corrected
[16:25] [saintconnor] wow
[16:26] *Canuck* Canuck is inviting HarrisonRichardson to #ecansp.
[16:26] [SaraD] if the MoJ and AG disagree the MoJ has final say
[16:26] [saintconnor] and thats lame 😃
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[16:26] [saintconnor] i know its how it is
[16:26] [saintconnor] but yet again
[16:27] [saintconnor] politics involved
[16:27] [Adasko] The AG should exist as a separate entity
[16:27] [saintconnor] idd
[16:27] [Zblewski] Let me say that again. Adasko acted on his own, and was preparing his own charges, without notifying me. I didn't support him due to that.
[16:27] [Fram] brb
[16:27] [saintconnor] how can a politician, overrule an AG
[16:27] [Adasko] I corrected it to say it was Chucky
[16:27] [Adasko] Chucky basically pressured me to
[16:27] [Adasko] a) Do it quick (thus less evidence)
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[16:28] [saintconnor] a politician has no business interfering with what an AG does
[16:28] [Adasko] b) Do it conservatively
[16:28] [saintconnor] in the first place
[16:28] [Adasko] I dunno, fuck it, I don't want to be part of this mess, I suggested the solution, now Congress should work on it
[16:28] [SaraD] did you ask his advie?
[16:28] [Adasko] Sara
[16:28] [Adasko] it wasn't advice
[16:28] [saintconnor] he shouldnt have to in the first place
[16:28] [Adasko] I got an order to make it quick
[16:29] [SaraD] hmm
[16:29] [SaraD] tad worrying
[16:29] [saintconnor] -tad
[16:29] [saintconnor] 😃
[16:30] *Canuck* Canuck is inviting Hammaburg to #ecansp.
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[16:31] [saintconnor] the problem here is, MoJ or any other politician for that matter, has no business making any demands or have any say in a legal procedure, its unethical in the first place
[16:31] [Zblewski] So, let me summarize the events: I get the notice from jfstpierre to put it to trial or lose it. I ask for the investigation materials from CSIS. Meanwhile, Aasko starts his own investigation and finds evidence, and presents the charges to me, when I totally didn't expect it. Chucky comes in, basically pressures Adasko to go into negotiations rather than to press charges. I'm there, not...
[16:31] [Zblewski] ...caring either way as long as something gets done on the case rather than have SdC sit in limbo. The negotiations end.
[16:31] [Zblewski] saintconnor: I never made the demands.
[16:31] [Zblewski] Ever.
[16:32] [saintconnor] i never said you did
[16:32] [saintconnor] i said any MoJ or politician should ever have a say in a case like this
[16:32] [Adasko] Zblewski
[16:32] [Zblewski] [saintconnor] .....MoJ or any other politician for that matter, has no business making any demands or have any say in a legal procedure
[16:32] [Adasko] my investigation was ordered by Chucky
[16:32] [Zblewski] ...he never told me this.
[16:32] [saintconnor] chucky is a politician im pretty sure
[16:32] [saintconnor] at this time???
[16:32] [saintconnor] adasko told us already several times now
[16:33] [saintconnor] i never names you by name Zblewski, i just find the fact a politicial can influence or have a say on a case like this
[16:33] [saintconnor] concerning
[16:33] [saintconnor] im not attacking you personally
[16:33] [saintconnor] 😒
[16:33] [Zblewski] This is the first I heard this. I assumed he had done it on his own. This is the first I heard that Chucky ordered Adasko to act.
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[16:34] [Zblewski] I'm going to say this from a partisan aspect, the first time I've done so.
[16:34] [saintconnor] Zblewski, that on its own is worrying to me
[16:35] [saintconnor] [21:34] [+Zblewski] This is the first I heard this. I assumed he had done it on his own. This is the first I heard that Chucky ordered Adasko to act.
[16:35] [Zblewski] Chucky /never/ said shit.
[16:35] [saintconnor] again, not attacking you
[16:35] [Zblewski] I know
[16:35] [Zblewski] but that worries me too
[16:35] [saintconnor] but that he can bypass you in such matters as well
[16:35] [Zblewski] Chucky never made a peep
[16:35] [Zblewski] It would have been a little courteous for him to tell me
[16:36] [saintconnor] i would vote for a retrial, but i doubt thatll happen so we are stuck with samuel now 😒
[16:36] [SaraD] certainly seems to be a confuzzle
[16:36] [saintconnor] and tbf
[16:37] [saintconnor] im not happy to ask for a retrial with cucky appointing the AG
[16:37] [saintconnor] chucky*
[16:37] [saintconnor] 😑
[16:37] [Zblewski] My new, partisan summary... Chucky slides past me and orders Adasko to do the investigation, in order to say there was an investigation. He never tells me. He then gets forced at political gunpoint to give up a trial, and I'm there as a rubber stamp, without being told shit.
[16:38] [Adasko] shii
[16:38] [Zblewski] I'm now thoroughly convinced Chucky's behind this
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it is time for impeachment. Chucky has demonstrated that he does not put eCanada first. His actions on several issue have dmonstrated this...remember graingate, remember the titanium debates....and now this....Chucky made this deal to pay back the UN for getting him into office....Pay Chucky back by impeaching him
Drop the impeachment talk, it makes you look silly.
How about 'inquiry into Executive interference in the Judiciary'
artificial judiciary systems in this game are pretty lame
I've always been a supporter of a system where we just have mob rule, Collin, and everyone votes on issues like this.
that's what I wrotte in the other article wrotte down:
1) the system is made that the president appoint the AG, so that is not of my ressort, if you're not happy change the constitution.
2) I asked adasko to make an investigation so we could make a trial and close the discution instead of having it linger around all this time.
3) The only evidence that adasko ever brought to me was his battle log, If he's sorry for the work he did back then. that's not my problem!he should have brought some more convincing proof to me.
4) and yes I didnt agree with the gold donation, why would you ask? Because I thought that this would bring the fact that you can actually pay your way out (with gold) of justice. So the wealthier you are, the easier it will be. And THAT was what I saw wrong in that.
I'll make something more official tonight.
Are you planning on running for re-election?
The investigation should be retroactive. I had a a case against the FO that was refused by the MoJ/AG ollivermellors and has the same nasty smell as this case. Cultural partisanship should not be allowed in the courtroom.
only atoms you are utterly wrong. In fact you started a civil case in court. It was argued. In court. You lost. It wasn't even a criminal case. With respect, sometimes we win and sometimes we lose. But yours was a situation where you did have your day in court.
Without comment on the merits:
i just finished listening to Adasko on the radio: AcaciaMason's podcast. Adasko says the evidence against Sdc was very weak and the government might well have lost its case. This sounds to me a different than the "throw Chukky under the bus" impression i get from Zblewski's transcript. Perhaps it would be useful for the people involved in government to tell us clearly if the case was considered "weak" when the settlement was reached.
Legal cases can be weak for a number of reasons. Doesn't necessarily affect whether the behaviour was reprehensible.
When i read the settlement i thought Sdc was in fact given the right to run for congress under "bail". I confess to thinking that clause was "awkward" but there it is. Maybe i am mistaken.
Finally i see there is a proposed amendment to the Department of Justice Act. That is the wrong statute to amend. The criminal code determines who decides on criminal prosecution: the Minister of Justice. These issues and the issue of political interference were recently dealt with, at great length, by the Supreme Court.
Petz = absolutly NO credibility.
^Not a UN member who has a hate on for Spencer or Petz^
lol
...and for the finale, SdC takes the cahk on the congressional elections, beating out Cit B for top spot.
That was quite a finish to The Big Zblewski, but my favourite part of the show had to be all the "ball polishing" that went on:
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