MSL: A House Divided
SirEkim
I normally like to stay in the political shadows and simply observe, but I feel that I have been personally brought into this argument and the following article contains things that must be said.
“A House Divided Against Itself Cannot Stand.”
-Abraham Lincoln, June 1858.
Although Abe Lincoln said this in a time of real civil war in which our great nation was falling apart, I feel there is no time better than now that it can be applied to our great eNation. In this latest Congressional election, this country has become more polarized than ever. Political attacks have been fired from both sides, the USWP and the anti-USWP coalitions, which is to be expected, but I feel that this month completely crossed the line.
The first complaint I have is with both parties groups running quality candidates against each other. This was obvious on both sides with the most notable examples being the Libertarians running PrincessMedyPi against Ananias in Florida and the USWP running Bill Forder against Joshua Hoss in Wisconsin. All of these people are great and would make (or have made) great Congressmen. That’s the exact point I’m trying to make. Why are good players being run against other good players?
I have an even better question than that. How, by kicking them out of Congress, are we improving our country? Shouldn’t the goal of all political parties be to improve our country? How is kicking Ananias or Joshua Hoss out of Congress improving our country?
Another example of this divide between improving our country comes from my conversation with Claire Littleton, the Party President of the Libertarian Party. When Congressional campaigning started, I sent a message to Claire to request an endorsement for my re-election. She responded saying that the Libertarians would not be endorsing anyone in West Virginia. I was fine with this, and went on about my own business. Well, later on, I learned that other candidates had joined the race, notably Jaxon Leith and Richard Brophy. Both of these guys would make great candidates, but why run them in West Virginia of all places?
My answer came when the ICCCR results came out. Despite being told that the Libertarians would not endorse a candidate, I was dismayed to learn that Claire had gone ahead and endorsed Richard Brophy for Congress. My first instinct was to try to find out what was going on. Here is a paraphrased snippet of the response Claire told me:
"If it were a personal matter, I would have voted for you, but I'm a Party President and I have to do what's best for me party, unfortunately."
Shouldn’t the interest of the party be in bettering the country? This leads into my next point, the hypocrisy that the parties are running. If you remember from a few months ago, “RightCon” threw a fit when the USWP decided to run their “51 state strategy” claiming that unqualified candidates would end up in Congress. Well, it appears that both the USWP and anti-USWP coalitions are running 51 state strategies, each running unqualified candidates. But this election has taken it to the extreme. The ICCCR, which is supposed to be the “Independent Council for Congressional Candidate’s Review”, are now even endorsing unqualified candidates over qualified USWPers.
Look at Kentucky, for example. Jasper Ferguson, an excellent Congressman, was denied the endorsement of the ICCCR to a player who has been around for 11 months but has only fought 30-some times and only has 1 hard worker medal. Then when there were two equally qualified candidates, they went with those who were not USWP.
I hate using myself again, but instead of giving a neutral “strong state” rating, which I believed was warranted, the ICCCR leaned toward Richard Brophy because of popularity. Is sending over 3,000 food to new players, sending 300+ private messages almost daily, and constantly finding new ways to improve our country not deserving of a neutral “strong state” rating?
And then, in literally the last 15 minutes of the election, my opponent gained 6 votes, putting him in the lead. Luckily for me, I still had my vote, so I was able to come back with a tie, but for crying out loud, what have I done to deserve being sniped? In fact, I wasn’t the only one to be sniped. There were several players on EVERY side who were sniped. Anyone who denies that this happens is flat out lying to you. Anyone who claims that only one side does this is flat out lying as well.
Just for the record, though, I in no way, shape, or form believe in entitlement, but I believe in common sense. I believe that the more we focus on the small things, the more likely we are to be destroyed by the bigger things. Until we focus on our enemies instead of each other, how will our “house” ever stand?
I leave this article with a question to everyone, and I mean EVERYONE (USWP, Libs, RightCon, or anyone else) who take place in attacking each other. How can we EVER expect to rise up as a nation and become a world power if we spend all of our time attacking each other? How are running good candidates against each other helping our nation? How are endorsing newbie candidates over qualified candidates for the sake of eliminating political rivals helping our nation? How are sniping qualified candidates helping our nation? If you truly want what is best for our nation, you MUST put all of this political crap aside and work to better our nation.
You can NOT have it both ways. Take your pick, your party or your country.
-Ekim
EDIT: Apparently some people aren't understanding my argument about running good people against each other. For that reason, I'll clarify:
We are running good candidates against each other while other states are being left up to be taken by noobs who two click and don't even contribute. We have 51 regions to fill, for crying out loud. There is no reason that we can't put good candidates in the "weak states" and have an overall better Congress instead of running them against each other and having a half-Great, half-Crap Congress.
EDIT 2: It looks like we're already making some progress. Let's see if other party leaders can follow:
Claire Littleton - Libertarians
Comments
Good article Ekim. I understand your points here and agree with you for the most part. I think all of the parties need to start to get along a bit better. Having unqualified candidates in eCongress isn't better than not having someone from your party in.
Agreed Ekim, there are 51 states, I dont see why good people are kept out by petty squabbles.
Agreed Ekim.
I have to say as a new congressman I agree. We are eAmericans first and USWP, Libs, Cons, Feds, AAPs, etc second.
Augustis
VP of the Federalist Party
Nice article.
Says the man from the party that managed to snipe four or five states in the last ten minutes of election day.
@Nick
Did you even read the article? I am not denying that USWP snipes, but you cannot deny that other parties don't. It is people like you who continue to put the blame on the other party for everything who are destroying this country.
I Don't see much of a problem with running good people against other good people, bt you have a very good point about running poor candidates just to gain states. There are too many parties and candidates for most voters to have a good grasp of who is really the best. It definitely is a duty of the parties to prioritize good candidates over seat count
Ekim if think you really drove the point home. Also comming from somone as quiet as yourself, this has to make people think about things now.
Great article SirEkim. This kind of rational insight is why we need you, and people like you, in Congress!
Ekim is extremely thoughtful and well spoken. I know personally that he was loathe to get involved with this article but felt that it was time that he speak up about the issues involved. There is a lot of discussion today about actually working together for the betterment of the nation. I hope it continues and that we can leave the partisan attacks behind.
Well written!
Brilliant article.
As always, Great work my friend! I think the condition you are describing does a great injustice to the eWorld. For the most part, we all want the same things--success, friendships,...--we just go about getting them in different ways.
You know you always have my support in whatever you choose to pursue.
Excellent article, I agree with all of the points you made. I think there is one aspect of the game that makes it tough for parties to manage, not running unqualified candidates. There is no option for a PP to endorse nobody for a particular state, instead they have to lobby for the other candidate...and hope people read it. Or block a person with another candidate. Perhaps we need to lobby the admins for such a feature and this will get us one step closer to smoother congressional elections.
Ekim, which of the smaller parties is denying vote sniping? As far as I'm concerned the only party that I have heard deny any vote sniping is the uswp. I refer you to this article: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/lions-tiger-and-american-mobile-voting-squads-oh-my--836845/1/20." target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/lion[..]1/20. So you may not deny that the USWP doesn't vote snipe, but the party establishment does. I want to say I have nothing against the USWP or vote sniping for that matter; but hypocrisy really bothers me.
Another thing, UIP does not have any particular strife against any other party. Brophy wanted to run in West Virginia and it had nothing to do with wanting to take you out or the USWP out.
Also Medy was not under the LIB banner and you are misinterpreting things greatly if you think she ran just to take you guys out.
Last thing, I share your dismay for the partisanship in this country. That's why the UIP is the United Independents Party and generally doesn't "hate" on one party or the other. If you want to start to change things in this country I think there are plenty of things you can work on within your own party before accusations are made against others. Please be understand that this isn't a personal attack but a call for you to act on the principles that you hold so high. I think every party can do better but the USWP is included in that. Start where you have your roots and change the USWP for the better. Thank you for writing the article.
I completely agree with you Ekim. Especially about what Claire says about party first.
I can agree in some way, but never forget that things evolute in a positive way in a competitive ambient.
Nicely said!
When will you publish the results for the economics article contest?
I would like to add that I'm not against the general principle that Ekim mentioned here, and I wish that we could accomplish it. But I know too much of human nature to believe that we could make something like that work merely because it's a good idea. So if we want to do something about it, we're going to need to come up with a way to make people do it.
Great, I'm glad you all agree, and think it's a nice article, but what the hell are any of you going to do about it?
Don't just say, "great article" "I agree completely", when you don't intend to do anything about it. Every election cycle, these types of articles come up, and our leadership always say "Good article", "good point", but does the situation get better? No, it gets progressively worse. Stop with the BSing and get with the fixin'.
Very good article Ekim
Agreed with SirEkim!
I suppose my question/response hast to be: How do you intend to get new people in the door? It's all well and good to support a good congressman over and over again, but there are new players every day, and part of the fun of the game for a lot of people is in trying to earn the medals.
Sure eventually older players move on, but entrenchment is still an issue.
I do agree we ought to try and focus a little bit more. More cohesiveness here at home translates to more power abroad.
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Ekim,
Sniping happens, and in your particular state, it was based on the fact that it was the closest race at the end of the day. If another state had been closer, it would have been in that state. Nothing personal. Sniping is an unfortunate side effect of having 40 or more territories.
I tend to agree that running strong candidates against each other is not a great idea. But distributing the candidates evenly can be a difficult task. It's simple math, there were more than 51 total qualified candidates this election. The distribution may have been off, but we don't know your placement list any more than you know ours until the 16th rolls around and publicly declare. We can't even be sure that incumbents like yourself will run again. Election planing starts long before the 16th.
Quote: "I learned that other candidates had joined the race, notably Jaxon Leith and Richard Brophy. Both of these guys would make great candidates, but why run them in West Virginia of all places?" USWP had candidates in all states but 4. Which USWP member should have been run against by Richard Brophy? Which USWP member do you think is so undeserving of a congressional seat that you would rather have Richard Brophy?
With so many good people running, there is going to be some overlap. Be gracious in your victory.
Well said Ekim!
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Good article, and well written, too. However, we need still, to preserve a diversity of ideas, yes? We're too populous to try to homogenize ourselves into a huge "USWP". Nor would we want to. Therefore, it's easy for members of said party to "agree wholeheartedly" with your sentiment. We're too populous to benefit from a single party or idea. Kanuto said it best, two comments up. If we can defend our nation competently and climb ranks, go to work every day increasing our production, keep in contact with friends from every party through IM's and forums. . . . . then what's the problem?
Running two good candidates against one another a bad thing? Can you say that with a straight face? If there is someone unqualified to run, that is your opinion, and your opinion only. Shut your mouth and go run against them.
Partisanship? Who cares? Let the political infighting begin. It is ultimately for our benefit as is competition of all forms. I have seen no evidence of a total distraction as a result of political partisanship. But I invite anyone to correct me, if they believe me incorrect. But bring evidence.
Mostly this sounds like whining from the USWP because everyone is gunning for them. Good for you, peeps. It'll make you better.
LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and Lincoln was one of the worst US presidents in History.
He split the country in Half.
Besides, RL stuff shouldnt be on eUSA or related to it, and some ppl need a history lesson.
While Lincoln issued the emancipation proclaimation he did nothing further to help the cause and left the whole South decimated.
It took FDR and LBJ to put the south back together again and fix the discrimanation and hate.
So go jump a cliff with your Lincoln speech and study your history.
voted and subscribed, this article is full of great points.
To answer your question, I choose my country first which is why I have no party affiliation. Look it up if you don't believe me. The parties are basically set up as USWP and Anti-USWP and all you guys do is nit pick and snipe each other in order to provoke one another. Naturally you blame each other, but never get anything done.
And the house divided is a bible quote im most sure, so dont attribute that to Lincoln either.
We could have spent votes we used here arguing over USWP and this shit to help save Croatia and the countries that PEACE tries to PTO Every month Why dont you people get that politics arent going to matter if were at war with a PEACE owned Earth???
See the guy above my first comment for a perfect example.
@cherryman13 You're walking a very fine line with talk like that.
@cherryman13
Saying stuff like that gets people to hate you
You hit the nail right on the head Ekim, America needs to realize that without this constant arguing we could focus on much broader things, such as saving our allies from PTO or founding a new alliance quickly and efficiently.
Well said sir!
Oh an just to point out I totally used that quote before...gosh ekim its called originality.
The first complaint I have is with both parties groups running quality candidates against each other. This was obvious on both sides with the most notable examples being the Libertarians running PrincessMedyPi against Ananias in Florida and the USWP running Bill Forder against Joshua Hoss in Wisconsin. All of these people are great and would make (or have made) great Congressmen. That’s the exact point I’m trying to make. Why are good players being run against other good players?
Should parties not put the best people they have up for election? USWP being the largest party in eUSA does dominate in congress as many will vote along party lines. But the other parties do have members in congress. If USWP had enough members in congress to run what ever proposals they want thru with no chance of any of the other parties having a chance to stop them is when we should start to worry.
To say that good candidates should not run against good candidates is baffling. Who is to determine what makes a good candidate or not? Ananias may be a great representative, but does not mean no other party should run against him? I don't get the logic.
Good article, Ekim, you are a bright man!
Yes to keeping good people in congress.
@Daniel Jacob Asher
You do realize that if there was no political infighting it would take very few eUS voters to get "good candidates" into congress. That would free up most eUS voters to go overseas and vote in elections to stop our enemies from using political takeovers to take over the whole world...
Great article SirEkim. Voted and subscribed.
Excellent article!
Stop holding a grudge.
This is the same reason I am an Independent in real life. I've voted for Democrats, Republicans and Independents. There are great Democrats and great Republicans and then there are the self-righteous pundits who say everything their party does is right and everything the "other" party tries to do is wrong.
There are people who make great leaders in all of the political parties of eUSA who many times are brushed aside not for being bad leaders, but because they belong to the "wrong" political party.
One possible solution to this would be for party presidents to run people in the regions of the country where they are from in real life. I am from the Northeast - it would be ridiculous that I would run in a state like West Virginia, for example, just to get a member of my party into congress there (I'm not making any implications here - just picking a place in a different region of the country).
There are times when we know a state is weak or there is a definite threat of foreign PTO and it is fine to place good candidates there but, in general, if a political party hasn't recruited people from a particular part of the country, they shouldn't run people there just to run someone from their party. Party presidents can help a great deal by guiding placement of candidates. There also should be a better way of determining who is running before the deadline of the 24th so that placement of competent congresspeople can be better achieved.
I remember an article (I believe Ananias wrote it) concerning development of a primary system where quality candidates from every party will be picked to run in each state and I think this is the best idea I've heard so far to address this issue.
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And who decides who is/isn't a good congressperson? What about the up and comers that will never get a shot at proving themselves due to the fact we want to keep old experienced players in office? The problem with your article is that it is based upon personal opinion.
For example, it is my personal opinion that Ananias is an overrated congressperson. I wouldn't shed a tear if/when someone else defeats him in Florida. I also like Josh Hoss as a congressperson, but alas, someone else may feel as though they can do a better job than he. In the end, who is/isn't a quality candidate is subjective.
Therefore, I see nothing wrong with parties pitting their best candidates against candidates from other parties that are popular ("good" by some peoples measure).
Yeah, but to be fair, you were running against a guy with amazing bone structure who can walk into rainbows.
Given those qualities, you should just be glad for the win.
My question is simple. Why does this article smack of USWP bias? One hand, you sit there decrying partisan politics, while on the other hand, the USWP is the biggest wielder of two-clicker party members in the country. As for anti-USWP coalitions, would it surprise any rationally thinking person? As the biggest party in the eUS, with a sheer size advantage that dwarfs most of the others, does it REALLY surprise you that coalitions would form, in order to even out the USWP numbers advantage and relevel the playing field in order to allow for fair and impartial competition?
Less with the hypocrisy and more with the actions, please. They do speak much louder than words.