Moderation is Key
Talvari
I enjoy the chats here on eRepublik. On my down time, I enjoy chatting with people, bantering back and forth, good-natured joking, and a lot of the time, helping out less-experienced players. The chats really are an invaluable resource that have helped many newbies off to a great start.
Lately, though, I am getting quite disgusted with the amount of trolling (to those of you that don’t know, a troll is basically someone who goes into a chat, a thread, whatever, with the sole purpose of causing drama) going on.
As I said before, good natured joking and what not are all fine and dandy. Even the occasional cursing or perverse joke does not offend me, and after a long day, sometimes its nice to hop on the chats and just screw around.
It is, however, NOT okay for the amount of racism and sexual harassment that goes on. Yes, I am a female, and yes, I do have my own picture as my avvy, so maybe that does invite a little bit of trouble. I expect a little teasing here or there, or maybe a good-natured pun or tease or flirt. But full out sexual harassment is unacceptable. I cannot count how many times I have been told to put my mouth on a certain part of the anatomy and suck, or that I am an ugly ‘woman of the night’.
I have even had my fiancee, and even more disgusting, my seven-month-old daughter, dissed and put down. One guy even offered to do sexual acts ON my daughter.
And don’t even get me started on the overt racism!
I admit, I am guilty of feeding the troll. It is a bad habit to get into, but it’s a way to let off steam. That and some of these people are so abusive and infuriating that its impossible to ignore them.
And before someone suggests it, yes, I am aware that there is a block feature. But then you only get one side of the conversation, and not everyone is intelligent enough to block trolls, so you get bits and pieces like “oh, you leave talvari alone.” Wouldn’t you wonder what the heck was being said, too?
And, “why don’t you just leave?” Because why should I? I have a right to be in the chat, talking to online friends. Why should I be the one bullied out when I have done no wrongs?
I am seriously stressing that I *DO NOT* get offended easily. I have a lot of male friends on here and I joke around with the best of them. If something is ever done, like, say, have a moderator put into the chats, I would hate for all banter and joking to be ruined. eRepublik is a great way to meet people around the world and talk with them. I just don’t think we should have to put up with blatant abuse.
A moderator would have to be set up delicately. Someone who is an older player and has no complaints against them, or who can at least provide several people who will speak for them. We would need moderators who are responsible and who would not abuse their power. Several rules could be implemented… For one, a person must be given two chances to stop what they are doing before they are kicked. For another… at least (this number of) people must complain about the same person for them to be kicked. For a third… A simple chat log could be kept to see who acted inappropriately.
I am tired of trying to talk to online friends and being harassed. I am tired of people using disgusting sexual innuendoes on me. I am tired of defending people, and I am tired of people telling me ‘just ignore it” or “just leave”.
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1st vote, 1st Sub!
Fantastic article Tal!
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I would also like to stress the importance of the thoughts expressed here. It is of utmost importance to fix this problem. Most new players first social interaction in eRep comes from the web-chat client. What does it say for eRep when the first thing they see is someone saying explicit and vulgar things about a 7 month old!?!?
Handle your business admins and fix this.
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It's sad that the level of passions that this game invokes is part of the reason why trolls see it as an easy lunch. This is not something that can be fixed easily, but I do feel for the victims of this nonsense.
Not only that, but there are younger players on here. The registration says that you should be at least 14 to join, I think. But we *know* there are younger players on her. I'm not saying a total censorship because, come on now, kids are going to hear worse things every day then the occasional dirty joke or a 'damn' now and then, but to read the vulgar content that goes on daily? Its ridiculous.
@system0101
I agree that a fix will not come easily, and from what I've seen so far, nor will it come quickly. But it must be done. Even simply adding a moderator or two will not come quickly or easily.
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100% with u on that
hope it becomes top rate
5th vote, 1st sub
Don't worry 🙂 With time comes action. Gildorg will soon be a moderator in the USA chat room. He will soon begin to act upon rules that will be set I.E no foreign trolling, racism, sexual harassment.
I apologize if I've taken part in anything that might come off as rude, and or disgusting to you.
SirNicholas
Nice First Effort, Tal! Voted and Subbed.
Yes, there is a very good chance that we will have Moderators in the USA National Chat Room soon.
There is a chance that I will or the Flying Unicorn Squadron account will be granted those powers.
It is a very big responsiblity and something not to be taken lightly.
We shall see as time goes by, how things play out.
In any case, great article, Tal!
Great read! 😃
You should really change your picture. When you come into a male-dominated game (most of them teenagers) and blatantly advertise you are an attractive woman, you will be trolled. These kids don't know how to behave and they believe there are no wimminz on the internet. They may be trolling you because they don't believe you... or they just don't know how to talk to a lady. Either way, you are bringing a certain amount of it on yourself by using your real pic. I made the same mistake at first.
Thank you for publishing this. Civility and basic respect are part and parcel of a functioning community. Voted, subscribed. You'd better write again!
Good work, write again like the President says 😃
Agreed.
trolling is in the eye of the be holder lol
fingerguns said it best.
It is unacceptable that you are forced to endure the inexcusable harassment brought forth by a particular demographic of immature youths on our national chat. All of our citizens should be entitled to use the chat free from harassment and overt vulgarity. My dear lady, thank you for bringing this to the forefront of our attention so that we may resolve the problem so that you, and every American, can chat in peace.
Keep your own photo, you have defended your femininity and commanded some respect.
I use my own real photo because I don't believe in being anything but myself.
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Fanstisic exactly how we all feel
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I'm glad no trolls have shambled into this thread yet. Hope is alive.
I agree with you that anyone should be able to use the national chat without being harassed. But I'm always amazed by this, and I agree entirely with Fingerguns.
I've been playing eRep for about a year now, and I've always had a female avatar (although not an actual photo), but I never overtly advertised that fact. I have never been harassed in any way. Admittedly, I don't frequent IRC/national chat much, but that's because I recognize that it's already an unsalvageable cesspool of immaturity and retardation and avoid them like the plague. We shouldn't have to, but that's the truth. You know what you're gonna get, going in there.
But in my opinion, most women who get constantly harassed are the ones who make a production about it, show off their photos and such. Well, if you want the attention, sometimes you're going to get the bad kind, too, especially on the internet. There's no reason you can't have a non-photo avatar that is emblematic of yourself, it helps keep the pervs away. If you just play the game and don't make an issue of your gender, they won't bother you. It'd probably be safer for your daughter, as well, if nobody even knew her gender... Might wanna think about that.
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First of all, I *will not* change my photo. I shouldnt have to. Do I walk around the streets wearing a drag and pretending I am a guy? No. So why the hell should I have to do so on a web site?
I talk to people I consider online friends on there, so they do know I am a girl. Its not like I sit there and yell "oh, look, I am a giiirrrrlll" on the chats.
And this isnt just about me. My perfectly *male* friends get pestered too. They are told they are dumb, ugly, have no life, are told they are gay, etc, and in a much more vulgar way. So this *isnt* just about *me* and me being *female*.
Trolls are a problem for everyone, reguardless of age, race, or sex. And when a new player comes in to the chats wanting help and the first thing the see is that, its gonna scare them off.
And in my opinion... If we can get rid of those trolls out the chats, maybe they'll just leave the game. Can you honestly say you want people strolling around who talk like that and treat people like that? I don't. Particularly with the younger players on this game.
Fantastic article, voted and subscribed.
I support your article in many cases, but I'd also hate to say that it's the internet.. and a lot of things go on the internet that we as internet users have no control over.
That little comment about committing sexual acts towards your daughter did have me a little angry though, simply because that's just sick.
But a moderator would be a relative easy way of helping fix this problem. It wont make it one hundred percent better, but anything is better than nothing.
Talvari, did this occur in the main USA eRep chat room?
It has happened, yeah. Its not usually as bad in the USA chats as it is in the national. But we've had alot of - and i am NOT trying to be racist, it ist just a fact- serbians come in and cause issues.
OK, duly noted. We'll try to get more moderators assigned to the USA channels. I really despise this sort of stuff. Thanks for writing about it and not quitting as does happen from time to time as people get frustrated.
Voted and subscribed would love to hear more on this and other subjects from you since this one was so well written.
As I mentioned in the Chat Talvari, excellent article. Getting control of the National Chat is a huge priority for us and is something we've already taken the steps to start doing by placing the National Chat room under Fort Knox rather than the Admins (this will allow us to choose and assign a moderator team and is something we just got the ability to do, before we couldn't change it).
In the meantime, please don't let people whose lives are so sad they have to pick on people on the internet to feel better about themselves ruin your experience in the game. Help is coming soon.
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Wow, alot of comments since I last read. And a few of these burn up my butt-feathers! I will attempt to express my point of view as best as I can:
I am male, pretty happy about the fact, and I'll be damned if I'd pretend to be female because of the ERRONEOUS view that if I was to reveal myself as male I would be "asking for it". This isn't Germany 1934, we do not sew little pink stars onto a female chat users collar and point and say, "The rules are different because she has a vagina". The problem does not lie with the gals like Tal who are simply hanging out with their friends and socializing. The problem lies with three distinct groups: The first are the gals mentioned earlier, the "Wanna see my boobs?" gals. As I said earlier, I'm a guy, and don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of boobs, but it is not appropriate in a general chat room and I will concede that these gals may intentionally provoke such trollers. The second group: The trolls. What can be said about this shallow gene pool that has not been discussed ad nauseum? I will trust in our collective intellegence that we all know that trolls are bad mmkay? And now we come to the third group: The people who can somehow crucify a woman simply because she IS a woman. It tastes an awful lot like those that blame a rape victim by saying "She was asking for it". How, by being feminine? It's sickening to the stomach and the sensibilities.
Forgive my rant, but this really burns me up.
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The in-game forums, and in-game chat are troll dens.
Come to the eUS forums, and IRC where you don't run into as many phoenix trolls.
Well-written, and very true v + s
Johnpauljones... We get plenty of trolls that are american too. Don't kid yourself. The one who made comments on my child was 'american'.
😮!!!!!! fingergun used her own pic!?!!?!!! WHY DID MY MISS IT!!!!! oops. i must now hide this from my eWife.
WTF!>?!?!?!?!?!?!?W?Q?w?eQ@$E?$?123$? $??43?tr$%?@%$#6/%?^&?try/TRhfdhgikl fdnsl!!@#?!sd4a45f564awf~
What kind of person say that about a 7 month child!