Lack of Organization Calls for Drastic Measures?
Socialist Freedom Org
Since the release of the information regarding the election freeze, there has been numerous criticisms from both sides of the argument, and it seems that the loudest coming from the pro-freeze side is this: “This isn’t real life, and if we want to “win” the game, we must do this so we can help our allies stop foreign PTO’s.”
Now, while this can be constructed as a logical, game mechanics point, there is one problem decreeing the problems of “roleplaying” ;and that is eNationalism.
Simply look through the top eUS and latest articles, and nearly all of them involve a nationalistic bent, whether that be a scathing article on the evils of the PEACE organization, or a call to arms for all Americans, celebrating our history and solidarity as a nation. I have yet to see the opponents of Roleplaying criticize these articles, because it seems that roleplaying is wrong, unless the roleplaying is supporting whatever they support at the time.
This, for anyone who hasn’t noticed yet, is quite ironic. The eUS has existed since the beginning of the game, but there has been no revolutionary war, there has been no Pearl Harbor, there has been NOTHING involving (RL) US history in this game, but yet you will see many call to arms and uber nationalism articles detailing how we have struggled through our (RL) time as a nation.
This is simply hypocritical to preach how we should go ahead with an election freeze because RL has no place in eRepublik, then turn around, spreading nationalistic pseudo-propaganda.
Now, for a purely mechanical argument. Many people, including myself, find the voting aspect of eRepublik very enjoyable. Not only that, but I have yet to see any information regarding the success we will have against foreign PTO’s if we freeze the election. I have many doubts that simply not having to worry about the election will “free up” so many people that we will have a sufficiently sized USAF PTO force to affect anything. Not only this but we are supposedly taking this drastic measure to prevent PTO's in other countries. Are those countries being threatened by PTO's taking such drastic measures to save their own? Does it make sense for the eUS to sacrifice our enjoyment and choice for another country when their own citizens are unwilling to do so?
In the end, we will not only be blocking an enjoyable game mechanic, we will be doing so only on an assumption that we will be increasing an anti-PTO force to the point to be viable against PEACE. There are many citizens of the eUS that would be willing to volunteer their vote for anti-PTO operations but the suspension of elections discounts the spirit of volunteerism and turns it into disgraceful coercion. Let's not take drastic measures before other options have been explored. Let's see the USAF do some earnest recruiting instead of forced conscription.
-Nikolai Veli
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>Does it make sense for the eUS to sacrifice our enjoyment and choice for another country when their own citizens are unwilling to do so?
F NO!
And if we freeze the elections PEACE can't PTO us, we are infringing on their freedom!
Anyway, very good article.
How about criticize the use of eFreedom then right there alongside with eNationlism?
Sarcasm aside, lets see this attitude remain after all our allies are PTO'd and taken over - effectively leaving us as the last bastion, which, inevitably we'll be PTO'd too since then all the eNations can focus their voters onto us.
Hypothetical situation, sure, but quite a possible one. You either combat it now, or say adios to those who looked up to us for help.
By the way, whats so bad about fighting for the eFreedom of others? Or are we just trying to be a selfish isolated nation here?
"...because it seems that roleplaying is wrong, unless the roleplaying is supporting whatever they support at the time."
Yeah. So?
The argument has never been that roleplaying is wrong. It has always been that roleplaying is secondary, that roleplaying should take a backseat to strategy. There is nothing ironic or hypocritical about it, but I'm not surprised that you would try to paint it that way.
The simple fact is that it will be a lot easier to get people to join in anti-PTO efforts when they don't have to worry about the American Fascist Party, the Socialist Freedom Party, or any other extremists using their absence as an opportunity to gain ground in Congress.
@ Elderon
Can they not at least help fight for themselves, or take such action that we plan?
And the "What if" argument is starting to bleed an "Appeal to fear" feeling.
"the Socialist Freedom Party, or any other extremists"
I lol'd
"...The simple fact is that it will be a lot easier to get people to join in anti-PTO efforts.."
How do you know this?
>>"...The simple fact is that it will be a lot easier to get people to join in anti-PTO efforts.."
How do you know this?
HE DOESNT!
@NV, I know it would have been a lot easier to convince me to vote in past anti-PTO efforts if I hadn't been concerned about who was winning at home. It's no great leap to say that there are others with similar concerns. Even if it is only a small fraction of our population, it would be a significant boost to our current anti-PTO forces.
LOL! "the Socialist Freedom Party, or any other extremists" >> reminds me of several nutty "RL" PEACE=communism canards that have appeared during this debate.
Please note that:
* Magyar Hazafiak Partja (51% of Hungarian Congress) self-defines as "Far Right, Authoritarian".
* Free Russia Party (58% majority) is "Center-Left, Libertarian" (CPSU has 5😵
* Narcissist party (69% majority) is "Center-Right, Libertarian"
eAmericans: read the SFP platform! Whether one agrees with it or not, to dismiss it out of hand because it is "there are reds under the bed" is pretty funny. The SFP strongly opposes PEACE because PEACE are playing the role of right-wing fascists and imperialists. Get yer metaphors in order, k? (Hint: The Soviets and the West fought together against fascism.)
Humble conjecture: Internationally in eRep it seems there's wide-spread and maybe (?) growing anti-imperialist sentiment "from below" that opposes land-grabs by ANY power. So after the "great power" wars have died down and the Genghis Khan scenarios have run dry, probably the biggest fun for both military and political gamers will then be in collaboratively organizing resistance wars.
The anti-PTO move vas entirely political, in fact, I'm surprised the USVVP and the rest of the American elite didn't cash in on this earlier. Stir up the patriotism on a borderline-paranoid scale, and you're going to get this kind of thing.
That's vhat happens vhen political parties get too big, they stop caring about the process that got them into pover and start caring more about keeping that pover for themselves in perpetuity.
As far as I'm concerned, the American political elite should start calling the eUS an oligarchy, because, by definition, that's vhat this is.
The real question is, is the rest of America going to sit back and let it happen? Ve knov vhat the elitists are going to do, but vhat is the rest of the country prepared to do to take back their country?
PQ, I really don't see what is so laughable about labeling the SFP as extremists. It has nothing to do with RL, and it's not a knee-jerk "Socialist=Bad" reaction. I simply feel that the SFP's positions on taxes and foreign affairs represent the far left in the spectrum of eUS politics. I never called you "reds". I never accused you of being pro-PEACE.
Anyway, Arjay is here, so I'm out. There's no point in arguing with a view as skewed as his. LOL @ "political elite". Have you seen who's in our congress? Elite? I think not.
The fact of the matter is this plan will not prevent a PTO. This is admitted.