La Resistance is here!
Niko Snow
Greetings Canadians,
The AFK Party of Canada has decided to undergo a name change for the duration of our current goals.
In the question of whether to form a coalition of any sort, the party responded, and the only viable option is to say no to all current offers of coalition.
For the month of July 2012:
EPIC-AFK is a no. CPF-AFK is a no. MDP-NFP-AFK is a no.
These three parties have all demonstrated that they are not yet prepared to give up the Orders of Congress in their Forum fortress of solitude, and to raise the efficiency and openness of Canadian politics by bringing our political debates back to eRepublik
If these parties wish to change the mind of our constituents, they will have to show that they are prepared to behave with our interests in mind as well, and not simply with their own as they have before.
In my first act as a Congressman, I put in my two proposals immediately, both of which were benign, both of which were meant to serve as a test for the other parties. They failed miserably.
Rather than showing good will towards our party and it's members as they were deciding who to join in coalition with, the vote was struck down without any discussion taking place in eRepublik proper.
Rather than showing an interest in the reasons behind this proposal, and clicking on the Debate links I had provided, no debate was held at all.
The official response of the MDP was that in failing to message them for permission first, they voted it down.
The official response of the CPF was that in failing to propose first on the forums, and allowing that proposal to simmer for an additional 24 hours, they voted it down. They have already proposed a motion to punish me by banning me from these forums, which I bear little interest in anymore, apart from the amusement of watching those who enslave and torture themselves within.
The response by a few long-standing Congressmen was "Nobody clicks on debate links."
Ask yourselves...
Is this any way to run a democracy? Where proposals need permission.
Where debates are held away from public attention in eRepublik?
Where closed door congress allows Congressmen to hide eachothers mistakes?
Is this truly why we take part in a great Republik?
You will hear many stories and fabrications over the course of the next few weeks.
You will be told by some that the Forums are an absolute necessity.
This is a lie: The forums serve only to "benefit" those who take part within. The goal of the forums was to bring Canadians together. And it did so nobly, while forums seemed relevant.
But the truth today is far less rosey.
Stress, additional & unnecessary work, bullying, harassment, and general structural inefficiency are not benefits at all. These are the curses of the Forum, and the curses any Congressman hoping to be elected to power will face. The Forums of eCanada have single-handedly served more to divide us than unite us. Many good and able bodied Canadians have left simply because of what was expected of them within their additional roles in these forums. Additional roles which bore little impact on Canadians in eRepublik.
We have been called a great many things by all sides.
EPIC loyalists have called us MDP-NFP lackeys for supporting the President's war doctrine, and yet the MDP-NFP has already shown they are not prepared to support us in Congress without paying tribute to them first.
CPF loyalists have claimed our party as a cult of personality, and yet I have already held not one but two major surveys across the party to base my leadership decisions on.
NDP-NFP loyalists have identified us enemies for not joining them entirely.
This is the state of our Republik,
This is the state of our democratic politics.
And we are La Resistance.
Join us, and dream a dream again.
Sincerely yours,
Tyrael Snow
Lord Commander of the Night's Watch
Founder and President of the AFK
Retired Lieutenant-General of the Canadian Armed Forces
Canadian Minister de Sonitus perpetuo.
Comments
Resistance is futile.
If u want to change the system try doing from with in. Take part in the forums, they are not some new idea. Forums have a long history and a proven past. How is any law supposed to gain support with out a place that all congress members can debate and propose amendments to?
Believe it or not there is currently a thread on the forums where a debate has been taking place about whether the forums are required any more.
http://ecanada.cc/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=16750
The problem with the forums isn't that they are redundant.
It's the same as the problem with eCanada itself.
The proportion of trolls to honest citizens is TOO DAMN HIGH!
The onus is on you to present a platform for each law, individually. A link back to your party platform is a poor and inadequate excuse for a place to debate.
That our only response. I don't know where you go the other's from.
Code-Y: go back to Delta Quadrant, you!
Crock Crosby: The point I have often brought up is that the debate should be taking place on eRepublik.
Changing the system from the inside is no longer an option as the system itself is far too inflated. Most people don't find it fun to spend their evenings writing whole Constitutions only to have it demolished and rebuilt by the next lot. Especially not when that Constitutions only real power to assert itself is a forum ban.
George Beeman: There will always be trolls, and the more you build, the more trolls will dismantle. It's hard to be trolled when the only thing that can be broken is an in-game party based on the premise that we actually don't care for these forums. And parties are pretty are easy to come by, as the trolls have proven time and time again.
Funky Hum24n: Go check with your Congressman crisfire, as he was the one to push for me to be held in contempt and punished. And again, the only poor and inadequate thing I find in this situation is not my link, but the fact that the Congressmen couldn't be bothered to even comment in-game. This, to me, shows how little these parties wish to have their affairs visible to the Canadian public.
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What crisfire is doing is irrelevant. This doesn't have to do with adhering to in-game mechanics, but you explaining your proposals one by one, in advance. If you don't make the effort, why should the other Congress members?
lol during election day Tyrael was trying to hammer out a cooperation deal with the Coalition. I sensed he was trying to play both sides as he Told me EPIC had come to him.
After I tell him to get lost the resistance is formed.
@ Tyreal snow: It does not matter what your personal opinions on where political debates should be held. At the moment the system in place states that your laws *MUST* be first proposed on the forums.
Until u follow the rules that other members of our society do, or your party has enough votes to over rule all others, you will have to participate in forum activity if u wish to be part of how this country is governed. U r not above the laws of this land (only the Thief has that distinction)
Funky: You raise a good point on the one by one issue. I will keep that in mind in our future proposals. I had considered this, but then, I was AFK. 🙂
Rylde: Indeed, I approached all parties after EPIC approached me and asked them what they were prepared to offer. Perhaps this does not apply in your coalition, but others across history in democracy rely on bargaining and meeting in the middle of their policies to form coalitions. Telling someone to join you or die, is not how you make friends and allies. It is how you meet unending resistance.
Crock Crosby: The law is moot when it has little ability to assert itself.
The truth is all that can be done is the following:
1) The voting down of proposals, which is typically the case anyways for most minority parties.
2) The banning of those parties from the Forum, which will have little effect but to embolden us.
I like where AFK is heading, exciting stuff.
I like the AFK. If only the answer to a CPF-AFK Coalition was a yes
Klop123 run for CPF PP with the platform a alliance with AFK and see how the party feels about it. or just conduct a poll........
My only personal issue with the CPF platform is that it seems to have stood on the grounds of the criticism of other parties. I feel like if I knew more about your actual goals within Canada, I would have a better feeling of how to approach your party in negotiation. From my perspective and in my most humble opinion, it seems your party has been nothing more than a cult of personality around neo-conservative marketing in it's displays within eRep proper. All hype, all judgement, but no content.
If AFK refuses to use the forums, then so be it. They should at least write an individual article for each proposal. That way there can at least be some form of discussion and debate in the comments. Linking to the party platform is as Funky says "poor and inadequate". Still, I don't understand what's the big hassle about using the forums.
"My only personal issue with the CPF platform is that it seems to have stood on the grounds of the criticism of other parties."
Technically, those were Funky's platforms, or rather his articles, that tended to criticize other parties.
The 7 Tenets, at base, are rather positive and should be constructive, yet not enough members discuss these or make plans for Congress according to these. I try when I can, yet it does take some extra work.
There does need to be more content in the CPF to back up its principles. The principles are fine yet need to be put more into action.
"they are not yet prepared to give up the Orders of Congress in their Forum fortress of solitude,"
Some like the way things work now... The only reason why it's not as efficient is because of the mooks who are too scared or lazy to use the forum...
@ Tyreal snow: It does not matter what your personal opinions on where political debates should be held. At the moment the system in place states that your laws *MUST* be first proposed on the forums.
Until u follow the rules that other members of our society do, or your party has enough votes to over rule all others, you will have to participate in forum activity if u wish to be part of how this country is governed. U r not above the laws of this land (only the Thief has that distinction)
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