Know the Job - A Rebuttal of my Opponents' Platform
Hurling
Both of my competitors have stated that they will work to get a Q5 hospital placed in Tennessee and will lower your taxes and/or raise import taxes.
To which I say, yeah and free puppies for all.
These positions indicate that neither of my esteemed opponents has looked into the rules of getting legislation into and through our Congress.
First, our nation has an existing schedule of where and in what order future hospitals and defense systems will be placed. This list serves our national interests. These high-cost constructions need to be placed in those areas where we are most likely to be attacked and where our citizens will stand and defend our homeland. No first term Congressman is going to get this previously negotiated and ratified schedule changed. I seriously doubt any one Congressman could amend this schedule. A very serious debate on this matter is currently underway on the Congressional thread of the eUS Forum.
Second, our Congressmen, the Economic Council, Uncle Sam, Joe and several of us private citizens just spent two weeks debating the post-emergency tax code that will be adopted over the next week or two. No matter what any candidate says they will accomplish next session, changing this intensely studied and debated legislation simply will not and should not happen.
We need a period of stability in our system of taxation so that my fellow wonks at SADD and at the Economic Council can measure the actual results of the change. Only then will it be prudent to recommend, debate and perhaps enact changes based upon measured results, not theories. We need a period of stability before tinkering. I don’t like everything about the new tax code, but we must pass something and see how it works before we can intelligently propose tweaks.
Third, the existing procedural rules of our Congress require proposed legislation to obtain five votes of support from other Congressmen before it can move to the floor for debate. Neither placing major constructions in Tennessee nor changing the tax code will get the required support. I was but a bit player in the debate on these two matters, but I was there, I voiced my opinion and I heard what was said. The constructions schedule is a done deal and the tax code will be enacted over the next few days. They will not be up for consideration for a while.
All Congressmen are limited to two proposals per session. If your Congressman uses his only two proposals for legislation that has no chance of reaching the floor, much less approval, how are your interests served? Check my statements out for yourself by reading the Department of Education’s article 12 Tips for a Newbie Congressman (http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/department-of-education-12-tips-for-a-newbie-congressman--729563/1/20).
I may not be a tank, but I have paid attention to and learned the basic rules of the job before I decided to run for the office. Let me try to form a coalition across party lines to achieve things that have at least some chance of being enacted. Government accountability for finances and a more efficient support system for our noobs can happen and will provide a real benefit to all eUS citizens by strengthening the nation.
Don’t forget to vote Wednesday. It’s good for you.
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"Second, our Congressmen, the Economic Council, Uncle Sam, Joe and several of us private citizens just spent two weeks debating the post-emergency tax code that will be adopted over the next week or two. No matter what any candidate says they will accomplish next session, changing this intensely studied and debated legislation simply will not and should not happen."
Meaning: We want to tax you. A lot. And any Congressman does.
"We need a period of stability in our system of taxation so that my fellow wonks at SADD and at the Economic Council can measure the actual results of the change. Only then will it be prudent to recommend, debate and perhaps enact changes based upon measured results, not theories."
Meaning: And we're going to keep doing it for a long time.
Good read between the lines, Jythier.
I do not want a q5 hospital- I just want a better one. I do not want to increase taxes for the sake of buying a hospital. I just want for TN to have a better hospital if congress ever decides to buy a construction.
Meaning that if congress said that we were going to buy a hospital I would do my best to make whatever state that is receiving Tennessee.
I will bring home the pork basically.
I do not want to increase taxes.
It's stupid for us to place hospitals in areas that are capable of being attacked for if a state with a q5 hospital is taken over then that hospital goes to waste and is trashed out. It would not make a difference during a war if Maryland was being attack- people would just move to Florida to attack, so personally I don't think hospitals should be placed on the borders because I don't want you to walk by the vault while you are walking in the bank.
Thanks for coming by to respond Dono. I think the voters will benefit from a dialogue.
"I will bring home the pork basically."
You will not be "bringing" anything. You didn't address my point in this article that the sequence of purchases for hospitals and defense systems has already been negotiated into a written document. If you propose a hospital upgrade in Tennessee, you have just used half of your proposals for the term on something that no one else will endorse, which means it won't even get to a vote. That is the procedure for legislation. Not my opinion, but just how our Congress works.
"I do not want to increase taxes."
I never said that you did. I said you are not going to change taxes one way or the other. If you propose the tax reduction you favor, it will not get the necessary five recommendations and now you are all out of proposals for the rest of your term.
Thanks for playing.
My point is that I will advocate for changes that have a chance of being voted on. I have already established communications with incumbent legislators who want to increase the transparency of our government budgeting and spending and also to create a system that brings our noobs through the tough early days, keeps them playing the game and reduces our losses due to players who abandon the game after we've sunk our New Citizen Fee into their account.
So you want to increase spending on the Citizen Fee?
I'm not sure where you got that red herring of an idea, Dono.
Nope. Go to the eUS forum and you will find several posts I have made on this topic.
I want to reduce it but 5 USD is the minimum the game allows.
We get roughly 200 new citizens per day, which works out to about 1,000 USD per day drain on the Treasury. Our population is not increasing. So, my conclusion is that we are not getting anything for our 1,000 per day.
I've been talking to various sitting Congresspersons, folks on the Welcoming Committee and the Department of Education. We are working on a system targeted to noobs to reward them for enrolling in the eUS forum, for assigning a more experienced mentor and to make their early days easier and more fun. If we can retain more of these youngsters we may actually get something of value for our 1,000 USD per day and increase the strength of our nation by growing our population.
Since I can't decrease the New Citizen Fee and replace it with something more effective, this is at least an improvement on our current system. We should increase the benefit the US gets for its 1,000 USD per day outlay.
I'm already working with other people from different parties to effect realistic, achievable, beneficial change. Earlier today I wrote a draft governing document for a new program that was the idea of Uncle Sam and Joe DaSmoe to increase our exporting capacity.
What have you done so far for America?
Hurling, so with the new and old player attrition being an issue to you, what will you try to do legislatively to focus on TN as a representative of the state?
All I see are somewhat broad and elaborate conceptual ideas vs concrete benefit plans?
Meaning it's all great and well that you want to benefit America in general, but aren't you running for congress and not the presidency?
I understand that's relative concept, but you have to focus on both imho. I would like to see more proposals for bettering our state first while focusing on overall good?
Hi TNice and thanks for reading and commenting.
The peculiar part of eRep is that while we have states and a Congresscritter from each, there is no State Legislature nor any state laws that differ from other state or Federal laws. The states are merely a voting district. The only laws are the national laws that apply equally to every state.
I nor anyone else can do anything that benefits Tennessee in any way other than doing something that benefits the entire nation. This is the crux of my argument that bringing a hospital or a defense system to Tennessee will not in any way actually benefit Tennesseans.
What I can do is fight to assure that the tax dollars that you pay are spent intelligently and accounted for accurately and transparently.
I can also fight to keep the pace of spending down to a level that does not require confiscatory taxes.
You hear, "I can, I can, I can." Please go to the eUS forum (http://eusforum.com/index.php) and look into my history of comments and also look into my opponents' history of comments.
Who has made substantial contributions and recommendations?
-Hurling
eUS Army
Ambassador to Indonesia
SADD
ABOA Export License Charter Draft Writer
Meals on Wheels supporter
Will not actually Benefit Tennesseans? So yuor telling me that if I get to wellness 60 after fighting in a war from Tennessee and instead of getting a q4 hosptial ,I get a q3 hospital. So I use the hospital and I am at 90 wellness and i want to be 100 ,so you just told me that a q4 hospital would not help me more than a q3 hospital when infact the more wellness I have the more damage I can do.
PLus When government buys a hospital they are also employing American workers which is better for the country as well. Plus they possibly bought the wood from TN which helps Tennessee business although you don't have to be a TN citizen to work in this business and that company may not actaully help TN but it will also help the country & State in many ways.
More silly arguments Dono.
Let's assume you got your Q4 hospital in Tennessee. If you fought from here and used the upgraded hospital you are an ineffective soldier. Why wouldn't you fight from a location that has a Q5 hospital (like Florida where I and the rest of the Army have been for months)? Using your very own argument, you do more damage and gain more wellness. A Q4 in Tennessee is a waste of taxpayers money, and all Tennesseans are taxpayers.
Your second statement is just silly. I never said that the government should not buy hospitals. What I said had nothing to do with should/shouldn't. What I said is that there is an approved schedule of where future hospital and defense system purchases would be located.
Hurling, in your statements your opinions seem well thought out with some exceptions.
You would undoubtedly make a great national executive legislator with long term goals and achievements. However, I'm not sure your right for congress representing our state.
What does government transparency mean, what does unnecessary spending mean to me, an average (new) Erep citizen? You keep calling new players newbs and such. IMHO that's disrespectful if you'r trying to run for public office as my representative... ? Kind of like RL TN governor calling Tennesseans hillbillies.... You focus on issues that don't improve my gameplay very much while claiming it does? (I'm impacted how by your attrition articles, Isn't that the focus on national executive leaders???)
You challenge Donos contributions which are numerous such as his attempts to improve TN as a state? Where is your plan? Why run in TN and not Florida (you mentioned you fight from there) instead?
What Dono is proposing is concrete solutions he is willing to debate about. What your proposing sounds like somewhat empty political rhetoric. Fine if you'r the epresident, not so good when you have somewhat limited options as a congress rep.
I cant agree with "HELLO WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT WE ARE HERE TO HELP" type of statements which is why I support Dono instead of you and your campaign.
Clear, concrete solutions over "I will help you good I swear" any day.
With respect,
TNice
Wow what happen to my comment i just posted? It was so good and tasty 🙁
Hurling, please understand that your sophisticated eloquence in political babble is not really my issue. Your contributions in your previous "postings" are great and by no means is anyone trying to make them seem less.
It's your lack of concrete plan or your seemingly misguided ideas about relevant issues that makes me think you are not the best running candidate for TN Congressman.
Example being your delineating issue with the new player fee. Your solution is great for 20% of the problem. What about rest of the concerns, such as player attrition due to moving to different countries and such. You should first and foremost make USA an appealing economic climate while simultaneously working on making it new player friendly...?
Dono addresses both matters and you address one. See my issue with your legislative proposals? They are mostly broad and one sided, not detail and action-plan specific like what Dono displays and illustrates with each of his points. Such as Donos tax proposals, or his ideas for helping new players and representing our states interests. Detail oriented plan is something you seemingly lack while focusing on broad national issues 🙁
Also your quoting of me, out of context as it may be, is sometimes silly.
Gameplay issue? You know I was talking about things like how I'm as a new player affected by my government when I want to form a new TN company. I don't really care, nor is it relevant for this debate, where the buttons are located to do so... Common now Hurling...
Vote Dono 🙂
~TNice
Dono sai😛 "Watch out just in case if they try to move you out of the country in order to fight for an ATLANTIS country member for if you move ,i have been told, you will loose your congress position."
You have been told wrong. Once again I point out the fact that you have not done your homework.
They [whoever your "they" are] cannot move me out of the country. Members of Congress are required to transfer to the National Guard because members of Congress cannot leave the country. In actual fact, only the Marines are routinely based overseas.
Dono sai😛 "I would also like to include that I live in the Nashville area in TN and I am also in the usArmy and I have been since day one,but I would also like to mentioned that I have never accepted a salary from them (even though we haven't been supplied any real recently)"
The Army does not pay members so bragging about not accepting a salary is disingenuous and deceitful. Secondarily, is this indicative of the language skills that our electorate expects from our national representative?
TNIce sai😛 “It's your lack of concrete plan or your seemingly misguided ideas about relevant issues that makes me think you are not the best running candidate for TN Congressman.”
Your pal Dono has a plan to attempt things that Congress has already said they will not take up in the next session. I propose to advocate things that benefit our newest citizens, that make the most efficient use of taxpayers’ dollars and that make government taxation and spending transparent. Whose plan is less concrete?
TNice sai😛 “Example being your delineating issue with the new player fee. Your solution is great for 20% of the problem. What about rest of the concerns, such as player attrition due to moving to different countries and such.”
Explain your 20% of the problem assertion. As to the “rest of the concerns”, read the Welcoming Committee thread on the eUS forum. We are working on a retention bonus system to address this very issue. Ask PrincessMedyPie if anyone from Tennessee is supporting her efforts to address this very issue.
I'm here. Sorry I wasn't able to get on earlier, I have laryngitis, so I am lacking the motivation to do a lot of things right now. I'm way behind here so I'm going to have to address everything in one post.
First off, the whole hospital deal:
Getting a Q4-5 hospital in Tennessee would be great. I would definitely push for it, but I wouldn't raise taxes for it. Tennessee does not border any other countries, which makes it a good place to have at least a backup Q5 hospital in the event that Florida is taken. Its not our biggest concern, but why not take it if we get the opportunity?
Next thing I see is the citizen fee:
I think that the citizen fee needs to be left alone. Hurling, you said you want to lower it although it is already at the minimum because it can cost the US government $1,000 USD a day. While lowering it (if possible) would save the government a good chunk of money, think about the new citizens! They start with only $5 USD and most work for minimum wage until they are skill level 1. With the cheapest food being Q1 at $1.28 USD, they are losing money quickly until they get to level 1. What happens if you give them $3 USD in the start? They probably wouldn't be able to support themselves. The money they have will go quickly, and they will lose wellness, because they need to work TWO DAYS to get one Q1 food.
Back to hospitals I see:
Once again, a higher Q hospital is NOT necessary, but would be nice. You (Hurling) say that during a battle, just move to Florida at the Q5 hospital and fight from there. Well what about minimum wage workers and even some up to level 4 who cant afford food AND a moving ticket? They just dont get the same benefits because they can't afford it? With a better hospital we help our newer players and get more people to fight and do more damage.
Thats all I have for now, lets keep this rolling.
Thanks Erik and welcome to the debate.
My statements on the hospital issue have nothing to do with whether or not it would be good to have one. That is a pointless argument. The placement of hospitals and defense systems is already agreed to by Congress. My point is that if Tennessee's Congressman proposes to place a Q4 or Q5 here, he has used one of his two proposals for the month, and the issue will not make it to the floor for debate. Wasted proposal.
None of this is my opinion. Go read the discussion on the forum. While you're at it, go back and read the DoE article for new Congressmen. I will use my two proposals for legislation that has at least a chance of being enacted, and will not waste them pointlessly.
As to the New Citizen Fee, it is easy to argue again only half of my proposal. The New Citizen Fee is a waste of money because most new citizens drop out of the game or move to other countries, taking our money with them. I proposed that a program that rewarded new citizens with additional food and gifts for those who signed up for a one-on-one mentorship program and required achievement of certain benchmarks would make the game more fun and easier for our newest citizens and would probably save the government money in the long run by retaining people who have already collected the $5 being born bonus.
I urge everyone reading this to go to the Meals on Wheels thread on the forum and sign up to have a mentor assigned to you, or to volunteer to be a mentor. I have.
I will not waste my proposals pointlessly either. Even in RL, I am a very catious person. I will not propose, comment, or do anything else that may be important quickly and brashly. I always put a lot of thought in my decisions before I carry them out. I will only propose for a better hospital if I feel it is of the upmost importance. Otherwise, I will wait my turn for it just as everybody else does.
Your new citizen fee idea makes more sense now, but who is going to pay for the gifts and food? The goverment? Taxpayers? If we try to keep even half of these new citizens in the country, they get the money from the government and the government buy food and gifts for them. If we're doing this to say, 100 citizens a day, are we really saving money in the long run? I'm all for helping new citizens. Its what I want to do if I get elected. But I don't want to ruin our economy either.
The point of the meals on wheels program is to retain some of the new citizens. Since we cannot lower the $5 fee, let's at least attempt to get something of value from the money we are required to donate. We took in 180 new citizens today. Over the weekend it was 200 or more per day. This is real money.
I've been in eRep for a bit over four months now. In that time the eUS population has oscillated around 10,000. Sometimes down into the 8,000s and sometime nearer to 11,00 but it always comes back to about 10,000. This tells me that we are losing citizens as fast as we're getting them. Others have given figures that the vast majority of people who start the game in the eUS quit before they reach level 3.
The point of the Meals on Wheels program is to assign a mentor to each new citizen and hold their hand through the confusing first days. If they reach certain milestones, such as signing up for the forum, reading the DoE guides, working for a few days, they will be rewarded with a small amount of food and gifts. The intention is to retain more of the people who join and to reduce the number who quit, taking our $5 with them.
I am in no way taking credit for this program. Medi, Talia, Arin and others at the DoE and the Welcoming Committee put this together. I voiced support from the sidelines. I bring it up as an example of legislation that I will support if such a bill comes before me. This is achievable legislation that can make the game more fun for new players and should benefit the country by increasing our population and our citizen strength.
Hurling and Eric,
Awesome replies, unfortunately due to illness I haven't responded earlier.
Once again Dono has illustrated his political superiority over you Hurling by clearly illustrating his proposals instead of your muddled remarks how we all should "taste the rainbow."
Rainbows are nice and fun, but in reality you, Hurling, having experienced the petty arguing that goes on in congress seem jaded. I'm surprised your running with your pessimistic and discouraged outlook.
You don't want to waste your proposals on good and beneficial ideas, but of course we once again have no idea what it is you will propose...
Other than maybe some kind of transparency thing that with each subsequent reply seems more equivocal and vague.
Good job on trying to point out the flaws in sound logic in those who would fight for TN. Boooo and shame on you.
Eric other than you getting in the game late, i like your passion for TN. You simply seem inexperienced in political arena to be the best candidate out of the three, but awesome job with your good ideas, don't get discouraged.
Vote for Dono.
~TN
P.S.
"I will use my two proposals for legislation that has at least a chance of being enacted, and will not waste them pointlessly."
Hurling you should read up on state of congress the back blockades being created and the low morale of long-standing elected representatives. Currently everything seems to be in limbo so we need strong and clear minded individuals as our representatives. You seem too bleak and dejected to fit that role. Vote Dono.
Dono you made some great points. The government spends money on the new citizen fee, which cannot be lowered, and is payed by the taxpayers. Asking us to pay more for gifts and food for the, as Hurling said, "200 people a day" is unfair. I was able to survive working minimum wage and buying Q1 food until I could start working for more. Why do they need so much help? I could giving them small donations if they weren't being paid by the government. I myself have helped a couple new citizens with just a $15 donation. If they want help, they can ask for it.
@TNice: Thanks for your comment, I too arrived late because of illness. This is my first time running, so thats where the apparent inexperience comes from. I'm not expecting to win and if I do win it probably wont be by a huge amount. This is kind of a learning experience for me, so that I can improve and perfect my platform for future elections.
"I will use my two proposals for legislation that has at least a chance of being enacted, and will not waste them pointlessly."
Lets cut to the chase. In some sense you are right, in that it would probably be a waste to propose something that would not change...it would probably take a time, many months to effect the change. You would probably be more "effective" as a Congressman than some of the others, but to what end? I rather send a less effective (at least at first) Congressman that reflected my values and principles, and from what I got, you essentially believe in high taxes to pay for a strong military and to give to Meal on Wheels. I rather have someone representing me, which would fight that. He may not succeed, but at least I know he is representing ME and my views.
There seems to be two basic views on how to play this game, using RL analogy. One is what I call the Soviet Union view, which is where the economy exists to support the military, and to redistribute wealth. The US view is where the military supports (defends) the economy, and from a strong economy comes the benefit of a strong military and minimal poverty. Hurling and Princess and Uncle Sam seem to advocate the Soviet Union view, while Donovanator represents the US view. I rather have a less effective congressman that holds the US view, than a highly effective congressman that holds the Soviet view.
Question. In reference to the Meal on Wheels, do we know if people are quitting the game, or moving elsewhere?
Alphamega
"Income taxes tax wealth creation, not the wealthy, and wealth creation is the engine of economic growth. Wealth creation is also the essence of the American Dream, thus high income taxes is a tax on the American Dream."
I am on the other guy on the ballot. I stand for a beer in every hand a smoke at a good price. I am just running to keep a Turk spy out of congress Good luck guy's