Is Franco Back?
Moishe
Word has come down that treason has been committed in high places. People in whom we have placed great trust have betrayed the very fabric that defines America.
Just this evening someone has invaded the Organizations that control Government owned Weapons Companies, sold off nearly every weapon at extremely low prices and then removed the gold.
From Donation Records:
From Fort Korbin USD 0.64 29 minutes ago
From Fort Korbin USD 1236.00 29 minutes ago
From Fort Nave USD 682.84 31 minutes ago
From Fort Dover USD 586.60 33 minutes ago
From Fort Immuno USD 15.12 35 minutes ago
From Fort Immuno Gold 8.00 35 minutes ago
From Fort Korbin SGD 1.00 one hour ago
From Fort Korbin USD 6550.00 one hour ago
From Fort Korbin Gold 11.00 one hour ago
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/donate/list/1235215/1
All of these were donations from various Government owned orgs to the account of Dakara Holdings.
And who owns Dakara Holdings? Navy II.
Treason to the USA and Mutiny in the USA Military.
However this act is different than the one perpetrated by Franco. His was "for the lulz". This latest betrayal is a betrayal of trust by a member of the Military against the Military. One of their own has stabbed them - not in the back - but in the heart!
It is one thing to betray others for laughs and giggles. It is quite another to betray your "Band of Brothers" because you are pissed at someone else.
Navy II has confessed his crime in IRC. He admitted being pissed at Congress. He did not say why. When asked if he acted on his own his reply was, "Pretty much." When asked if it was "pretty much along or entirely alone" he repeated "Pretty much."
That indicates. Navy II did not act alone. He was used by someone whom he respects to perpetrate this betrayal.
We strongly urge all Americans to raise up a united Scream at this treason!
And note that Navy II has moved to Singapore with others that have left the USA behind.
LATE BREAK IN THE NEWS!
The Weapons Companies owned by the Government to support the Military were put up for sale! However several LOYAL Americans bought them and will return them to the USA at a later time.
Navy II's confession:
[navy] Guys, I actaully very sorry with all the military people
[navy] but congress pissed me off
[Sukoidha] so you sold our weapons?
[qn20] so you screw us?
[navy] yeah basically
[Sukoidha] why?
[Sukoidha] the military did nothing to you
[navy] I agree
(NOTE: It should be noted that Navy II was NOT the QMG for the USA Marines.)
Comments
John Jay sounds involved as well.
You Americans are so silly. John Jay is not involved, at all.
You're a poor imitation of a petty thief.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/donate/list/1235215/1
Lies, Navy? I think not.
Gah. I can't believe Navy would do that. I'd like to think JJ isn't involved, I see no real proof and in my eye's is innocent until proven guilty, but if JJ was for whatever reason I would lose all respect for him, because it would mean he's taken the loss of the election far to personally and is offended enough by the Scrab administration still enough to try and screw up the military.
Is Singapore where all the pirates and criminals go nowadays?
It would be a good thing to provide proof of your strong accusations. Also, if you can prove your claim, a PM to the USAG's office may be helpful.
http://eusforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=599
Hrmmm,
If only SOMEONE had warned congress that this could happen.
IF ONLY SOMEONE had made a HUGE public display of how HORRIBLE things could turn with no possible recourse.
if only.
Heh, Wahoo. The AG cannot do anything here. Also, Tiacha provided proof in her comment. Navy owns Dakara Holdings.
Oh please, Justin. Get over it.
no idea, but JJ's name, appropriately or not, will not remain unscathed from this.
Navy, what is the deal? Why were you "upset" with congress?
Wow, like five comments went up when posting mine lol
OK, I see that now Joseph. That comment came while I was reading the article. -.-
Why can the AG do nothing? Can he not at least bar Navy from the forums?
This is why I voted no to giving the military a blank check for no reason....
Yeah Wahoo, but we don't need to go through a meaningless court system for that. I am sure scrabman will give him a nice little ban without dealing with that.
HRmmm looks like we need to ensure this doesn't happen again. Too bad we didn't give this responsibility to someone who was accountable to the american people
I thought we signed a contract with navy to run the companies? At least we were planning on it when I lost the election....
Thanks for editing Moishe. I would like to ask Congress not to lump us all together. The Marines are completely separate from Navy. His acts are treasonous and a harmful blow to the Army.
We Marines are comprised of loyal citizens, not self serving dogs like Mr Navy apparently is. Rest assured that we will account for our funding and we are here only to serve America. Don't cut us out due to guilt by association.
Thank you
Joe DaSmoe Lt 1st Recon eUSMC
Wow... just.. wow.
Harrison Richardson, I like how you've run your mouth here and in IRC and have nothing to say but "Petty Thieves".
Where were you when the eUS government ripped off someone by asking them to pay for Weapons and moving tickets, then stiffed them on repayment by claiming the gold wasnt theirs to begin with?
John Jay had nothing to do with this. Anyone with half a brain would be able to see that. However, Im betting alot of the USWP zombies will churn out the press that John Jay is the mastermind, proof be damned.
Maybe congress should be doing something to ensure that everyone from the President to the Congress and the Military cant rip off the eUSA... I doubt it would happen though, Too many hands in the cookie jar getting rich off it to cut it all off.
John Jay, thanks for your comments. I did not mention you in the article at all. Had I thought you were involved it would have been said.
Now, I noticed you did not condemn his actions. Only defended yourself. Any comment on that?
Who called out Navy in the election and ran against him in Virginia?
Honestly, I don't think John Jay had anything to do with this, but either way he will be accused considering his "Big Plans for the eUS" that he was talking about. There's also the coincidence that Navy moved to Singapore, the same place JJ went.
Now, with that said, I believe that we should focus on those who we have proof of wrong-doing BEFORE moving on to investigating other people. In other words, focus on investigating Navy for now, and AFTER you find information about someone else involved, then you call them out on it.
@Relorian: If there is no proof I will defend them myself. I defended Franco until he finally confessed. I believe in the law, whether it is virtual or real. John Jay has not been accused and, as far as I am concerned, he is innocent until there is proof. Period.
@Emerick: It is good that you always have such useful input. I bet you actually think you are humorous.
"[navy] Guys, I actaully very sorry with all the military people
[navy] but congress pissed me off
[Sukoidha] so you sold our weapons?
[qn20] so you screw us?
[navy] yeah basically
[Sukoidha] why?
[Sukoidha] the military did nothing to you
[navy] I agree"
Wow. That is the flimsiest cover story I've ever seen. At least TRY.
Has any move been made to retrieve the funds or are they permanently lost? Wow, there has to be a system of checks and balances.
@Emerick: your comment appeared to address everyone that has made comments. If that was not your intent then I apologize.
navy: can I have some gold or USD please? 🙂
Wow. I never would have expected this coming from my own Congressman especially. At least if a contract was written we should receive appropriate reimbursement from the admins right? Assuming there was a contract in the first place...
Can we please get back to lower taxes and less government intervention now? We've been robbed more times then I care to remember. In the latest bout despite 20% income taxes AND government run weapons companies the marines have been receiving Q1 weapons only 30-40% of the time. The rest. we the eUS Marine Corps go unfunded. Let alone the eUS Army and National Guard.
If you (eUSA Government as a whole) cannot maintain control of our resources you do not deserve to have control of them. I urge you all (congress people) to lower taxes back to acceptable levels for buying limited constructions, new citizens fees, and weekly resistance wars. The rest belongs to us the citizens.
I thought something weird was going on. I bought 10 weapons earlier today for one cent a piece... I will happily return them back if needed
I agree with Cior, at least until we can get out stock back up. We need to keep these funds in the hands of the American public, at least until we can find a system to make sure this doesn't happen again.
I stand by my prior NO vote yesterday on yesteday's QMG appropriation. The USMC gets no further money as far as I'm concerned until they can prove to the people's satisfaction that they have their house in order.
I'd call it merely childish if it wasn't actually traitorous.
American soldiers will go without weapons because some jackass got in a snit over what someone in Congress said to him?
Permabans should be issued to anyone proven to be involved in this.
In the meantime, we need to think long and hard about how to put multiple hands on the US checkbooks to make sure one person can't rip us off in a fit of adolescent pique.
If "Navy II" truly had anything to do with this, he has a lot to learn about honor, courage, and commitment.
@Citizen Dru: And how do you propose they prove it to the peoples satisfaction? It's one thing to demand something reasonable, but to ask for something and offer no solution is just going to make things worse.
Good article. voted.
Citizen Dru - Apparently you can't read. Navy was the ARMY QMG, This has nothing to do with the Marines. The fact that you take such a principled stand against what you are clearly ignorant of proves to me that we need a higher level of intelligence in the "House of Representin'"
I hope your sense of smug self-satisfaction is suitably deflated and you can take the time to actually educate yourself.
>we need a higher level of intelligence in the "House of Representin'"
I need a sponge to wipe the irony off of my screen
eDEATH TO ALL THOSE INVOLVED!!!!!!
The Marines are above reproach. They have never been associated with these types of actions.
I want to add a different perspective if I can. I am part of the National Guard, 2nd Division. This really stings because I have to deal with recruits who cannot get weapons. These are recruits how cannot afford it because they are new to the game. Now I have to explain to them how we had the weapons, but because somebody got his feelings hurt we no longer have access to them.
This does not make us look good or help out morale at all. Something needs to be done about this... everyone needs to remember the little people that this is going to affect the most.
"Now, I noticed you did not condemn his actions. Only defended yourself. Any comment on that?"
Seriously? The campaign is over, there's no need for obsessive critique of every little thing he says or doesn't say. You know well that you wanted to start something with that comment.
Wow. eUSA does equal fail. The forums were right.
/me goes to apologize to Agent Chieftain.
@Emerick: Well said!!! 🙂
Citizen Dru... If you stop funding the marines, they can simply walk away and stop defending the eUSA if they choose to. Wanna bet who does the most Damage per fight of the US forces? It isnt the Army (If they still exist or are allowed to exist). It isnt the non-funded National Guard (Of which I am still a member and have grave complaints about). Its the Marines, who as of late, have been underfunded and under equipped while being asked to help allied powers secure land or defend their lands.
Honestly, The people who voted you in must have been idiots or USWP zombies just mashing the vote button. Either way, the people could do alot better than someone who is going to vote to deny funds with out even a shred of intelligence on the issue.
@Emerick... Your an Idiot. Your repeated use of a hateful word ment to insult homosexuals shows how little intelligence you have. Wonder if you'll get the banstick for it?
You think I don't know what some people use that word for? My logic is- if it offends the people it's meant for, then it'll be even more offensive to people who don't engage in homosexual activities.
Also
>Your an Idiot.
>Your
Emerick, You have to revert to being a spelling nazi?
Calling anyone a homosexual is akin to calling someone the N word. If you cant make a point with out reverting to it, then I stand by my assertion that you are an idiot. Sexism is as bad as Racism in my book and you've shown nothing but a need to use sexist words to attempt to get your point across.
I am also a Lt. in 2nd Division National Guard.. it pains me to see that somebody affiliated with the eUS military actualy could do something this horrible.. I just hope that we can recover some, if not all of the money/supplies. If i HAD any money to donate, I wouldnt hesitate to donate to the goverment to help.
@GMoney: Sorry but you are wrong. I would like to see John Jay condemn the action of Navy II. I stated categorically that I believe he is innocent and shall continue to believe that until it is proven otherwise. The same for you. Or anyone.
I also noticed that you seem to have a separate agenda other than to condemn the actions of the traitor, Navy.
Does it matter at the moment? I'm disappointed that all these eU.S. citizens have turned against each other, instead of actually being together as a group. This is why we can't have nice things in eAmerica after some serious stuff goes down.
Relorian: I actually did give you an explanation, despite your terrible grammar. You should feel honored