IBB is the killer of eCan?!?
Oinyo
so as I understand it IBB has asked for Rylde to take complete control of eCan to "Protect us"
Lets think of what our "great" cp has just done.
Instead of trusting or allowing us to band together to keep ecan free he pretty much completely destroyed and erased the political module.
Parties now mean nothing.
Congress is gone. even if you are elected. lol.. bye bye gold. You get zero now.
Cp elections? Same as above.. Useless..
Parties are what made this game fun.. Now whats the point? It doesnt matter if your a party of 400 or a party of 2. Thanks to IBB you are all equal now with no end goal.
Lets read what IBB did to us..
Life under dictatorship
Dictators have practically all the power in the country. They can single handedly pass any law. There are only 2 laws the Dictators cannot touch: a law for changing the new citizen message and a law for impeaching the President.
The Dictator can initiate any other laws and he/she will be the only one voting in them. 24 hours is still required for a law to pass. This 24 hour rule is kept in order to maintain a balance in the game and to avoid breaking game mechanics such as Mutual Protection Pact laws.
While the President and Congressmen don’t officially lose their positions, they are powerless as long as the Dictator is ruling the country. The Congressmen and the President cannot propose or vote any laws, or give out citizenships. The President also loses all the control in wars, campaigns etc. In short, their roles and positions are purely cosmetic.
New elections are held normally, but no Gold is awarded for the elected Congressmen or Presidents.
No one has any say except the dictator. Sure we can go on a forum and pretend we matter but Rylde can PTO anything and make his own mind (As he most likely should in his position as a dictator)
No one gets gold.. Our country is actually losing 45X5 gold a month.so 225 gold a month in the garbage. Your gold is in the garbage.
IBB has decided that he doesnt believe in us or trust us to be able to protect ourselves.. So he traded in 100% of our freedom for temporary safety.
We deserve neither and I would be surprised if our population does not drop by 50% in the next month or 2 due to this absolute failure of a choice..
How can we defend ourself in the future when all these bored players with their endgame removed leave? Who will be left to fight?
Thank you IBB.
You killed eCans politics.
Thank you for taking the time to read my article.
~Oinyo
Comments
I did not decide this.
I, along with all Major MU Commanders and Political Figures decided this, including your own MU Commander.
eCanada decided this was the safest way forward to ensure our safety from foreign threat.
Stop with this nonsense.
P.S. Give it a chance, maybe you'll like it and it'll turn out exactly as I say!
Maybe it won't and we'll get to fight for Democracy later! 😛
safest? lol where have you been.
Not that I really care i find politics in this game boring. But I can certainly see this change being detrimental to the game and the people who enjoyed the political side of things.
The change can easily be, but it is better that a more or less trusted (by a majority) eCanadian have access to the Buttons than some Foreign MU or other Foreign Power.
This patch gives us 2 options.. You either fight for your freedom and band together as a country to rpotect said freedom..
OR
You do this.. You give into fear and terror and kill the countries freedom hoping for a little safety net.
We chose fear and terror it seems. We chose to kill the country out of terror..
"but it is better that a more or less trusted (by a majority) eCanadian have access to the Buttons"
I didn't see a majority, I just saw a few politicals, you, and some MU leaders making the decision?
Pretty sure I just saw Onion fighting for the revolution.
Vive le revolution!
This whole thing was your idea Oinyo.
Ha ha yeah. I know 😛 But I was hoping we would band together and you know.. Work together.. Not give up so damn easily to fear and terror lol.
We banded together and chose Rylde.
Democratically Elected Dictator
Lets see how long that works before people get bored and leave. or people decide that parties may want to actually have purpose again.
Now people pretty much have the following to look forward to when logging in.
1. click the fight button a few times.
2. see if Rylde did anything
3, log out.
"We" is a pretty strong word to use when it sounds like the number of people making this decision could be counted on two hands or less.
Rylde had the 200K and we did not. If we could of risked the time involved we would of fund raised and put IBB in and then passed dictator to the next CP.
The longer we waited the greater the risk of a foreign PTO.
COuld have used that money to fight back from a foreign PTO.. Or pay for mercs to defend against one.
Lots of options. I made sure of it.
People will see in a few months just how many options there are.
Should have told IBB to dust off his visa card.
Plus wait until you see the merc patch that comes in soon.. You will crap youself at the new options lol.
Haven't got a Visa.
Mastercard?
I have the money. Did anyone ask me? I love how Canada's biggest fool is made Dictator by a group of probably ten people.
That is the way coup's work DMV.
It was only 200k CC.
I mean, I've never bought gold and I have twice that. I don't see why the amount required was a major hurdle for this.
You have 400K? You old miser.
I have 400k liquid. More if I started downgrading stuff and selling back resource stuff.
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"Thanks to IBB you are all equal now with no end goal."
Yay!
I-Bleed-Blue-93
The Liberator and Creator of Equality.
Normally I find Oinyo's articles lack relevant information (such as the recent one announcing the 'great' dictatorship option he single-handedly invented for Plato).
However, this article offers what seems to be like a very sober second look at what a dictatorship entails for the political module/non-clicky part of the game. It's a shame he had not included such thoughts in the first one where he unveiled this great new game feature.
Nonetheless, a great read...and one that I would tend to agree with if not for the fact that all the active leaders think (haven't heard what klop says yet) about swallowing this poison pill to safeguard the national security of eCanada. I'm guessing that the excitement will last a week or so until the novelty wears off and people start to miss various aspects of party politics that made the game a bit more dynamic. Poison pill may seem like necessary medicine but the bland after-taste may take some getting used to.
meh, who knows...maybe Rylde will ride the nation to greater glory on the battlefield one day not long from now...
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lol well I figured we had enough content for now so I didnt have to post much more BS...
This is my first real article in a while and it points out some real fears I have..
You and your brain have a good thing going here in this article. You two should hang out more. lol
lol perhaps so..
MDP will be bored as PTO's will be pretty meaningless. They may actually have to try and find something else to do.
Attempts to take credit for the admins implementing the dictatorship feature.
Blames someone else when a dictatorship starts.
I don't understand your logic
Well your name is i dont understand afterall lol 😛
As others have said, I believe this is the safest option for now, when countries are getting targeted by coups left, right and centre. Rylde may not be our most popular figure, but he's trustworthy. On behalf of CAF i've agreed to a limited, government-backed dictatorship until the module is fleshed out further or we decide a better course of action. I want the dictator to essentially be the new CP. When the CP wins the election, they are given the title of dictator. If they refuse, a fund should be set aside to start a revolution and the call should be sounded to remove the corrupt dictator and install a benevolent one again. This should discourage foreign coups against us, which if you read the update have the potential to cause catastrophic damage to our community.
"I believe this is the safest option for now, when countries are getting targeted by coups left, right and centre."
Serious question:
How many other countries have already been targeted by Dictator coups?
It didn't seem like any of that had actually happened yet in other countries (from what I could read) and this current coup is more of an early safeguard to avoid the chance of PTO.
Providing examples of what's going on in other places will show how likely eCanada is to be PTOed. Seems like a good way to shut up the naysayers.
Hey Azarius,
Switzerland, United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia, Netherlands, Serbia, India and Moldova appear to be undergoing legitimate, non-government backed coups. This is indeed an early safeguard, we will have to have a discussion on what the long-term plan will be. We are just worried that a larger country would move quickly to coup us, as we saw in Serbia that Chile managed to get more than 500 fighters there for a coup and give the supposedly strongest country a run for their money early on.
South Korea is being PTOd as we speak, and most of those smaller nations are puppets of larger nations already are this is just them signing the deed with their associated Devil's.
So, some of those as well.
Thanks for the references. It was hard to tell if other nations were doing 'coup control' or were genuinely being targeted by outsiders.
I thought you guys were being a bit too hasty with the 'coup button' but there would appear to be a valid reason.
(at least Congress could get their 5 Gold this month, I think, so not all was lost)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"so as I understand it IBB has asked for Rylde to take complete control of eCan to "Protect us"
Lets think of what our "great" cp has just done."
Just so we're clear, you recently wrote an article asking foreign powers to wipe us for our own good, but one of our own taking the reins is unacceptable to you?
I don't see how those two statements are contradictory. Am I supposed to, or are you just reiterating what he's already said?
I see that out of context the quote isn't as revealing.
"so as I understand it IBB has asked for Rylde to take complete control of eCan to "Protect us"
Lets think of what our "great" cp has just done.
Instead of trusting or allowing us to band together to keep ecan free he pretty much completely destroyed and erased the political module."
With the extra line added I think the point is pretty clear.
Foreign powers wiping us = Good in Oinyo's opinion
Essentially the same thing happening with an eCanadian at the helm = Bad.
And yet he still no doubt counts himself a patriot.
No, I still don't see it as a contradiction. He wants Canada as a polity subjugated, not its political parties by a single Canadian.
I've never quite understood the logic behind a wipe. If it's merely to get eCanadians to band together then this dictatorship could also fit the bill.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"I would be surprised if our population does not drop by 50% in the next month or 2 due to this absolute failure of a choice.."
Can we count on you to be part of the 50% drop? You seem to think everything is so horrible lately, now is as good a time as any.
I also thought that you helped design the dictator update (according to your previous article). You surely intended that it would be used? If not, what was your purpose in developing it for admin?
See my reply to the last 14 people that asked this.. lol
Just because someone makes something doesn't mean they want people to fail into the worst part of it.
As in all my articles I keep saying we need to band together and work towards a common goal.
Looks like we just sold out politics from fear and tossed that goal aside.
Or we band together stopping serf from being PTO dictator.
Perhaps for now. But eventually we need to find a way to win without losing.
By that I mean keeping democracy in and dictators out.
like the work tickets for houses that was basically thought up by me in a modified from last year they held an competition and asked for player ideas. mine was a counter that gave another reward from houses reworked into worker tickets by them. check that articles it might give answer to who thought up dictators. personally i think it was an ounce of coke but that is just me.