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Majority of the public won't be getting any weapons.

Thats a good idea,BUT instead of marine/army personel why not make those jobs open to civilian hence more jobs less unemployment or chump change

I stated my opinion in the Congressional forum. I'll be interested in the comments here too.

BTW, congrats Talia!

Umm your artical is very surprizingly bias. I do not agree with government run companies.

"Do we do something less efficient?"
What real proof is there of this?

"This is the best way to spend money on our military."
What real proof is there of this?

"There have been other proposals but they're not as practical."
And once again. what real proof is there of this?

Anybody can fight in a war it would be nearly imposable to arm everyone. The marines on the other hand can be keep track of since they are few in numbers compared to the public.

yeah thats true but....

@mindflay - Please read the comments at the Congressional forums:
http://eusforum.com/index.php/topic,957.msg25561.html

We discuss other possibilities and their costs.

I don't like having government run companies, but I really do think this is the most cost-effective way of providing weapons for our troops.

This is a bad idea. Let people buy there own weapons.

looking around we seem to be the only leading country with income taxes around 20%. I get that part of it is rebuilding treasury because of crooks and hoping for more money for wars. But so far after all of the increases I am yet to see a war that the United States is apart of aside from traveling to other countries to fight. Right now I only see the government working for the elite.

Your link is not working sorry Talia

Your right Daisy.

with the price of weapons so high most citizens will not be able to afford them on their own so maybe the goverment lead weapons plants will be good for the nation.

I personally think taxes are too high. But... I also think there aren't enough weapons (or cheap enough weapons) to supply the citizens in time of war. I hate this, but I think it might work.

Of course, I could be COMPLETELY wrong, which is why I'm talking to you!

ITs like this if we pay our taxes and the need for us to get arms to fight for our country in order for the country not to go broke trying to arm every 1 they could probebly impliment a system where only certain state get arms from the government to go to war(military exception)any1 else want to go will be responsible for their own arms.Thats my case

I think that instead of employing some military personel we should help out the new players and have them work there.

I really only see the elite super soldiers getting armed in this scenario. Unless you seriously propose to arm every able bodied soldier in the ranks?

Would there be a way to contact weapon businesses and provide subsidy funding for them to cut down prices making it affordable to general public. If they don't lower prices, they don't get the extra funding. They will be left behind anyways by other businesses that took you up on the offer because they would be the cheepest on the market. This would also in turn would boost sales stimulating the market when it is all affordable. There won't really be a need to raise prices again. Another thing, go to war, no one is buying weapons right now because there is no point, prices go up because companies still need to make ends meet. The more the demand the cheeper the prices can be. (grammer will be off because I was too busy to proof my statement)

this would also protect the free enterprise, no one can compete with government run businesses.

I think it might not be a bad idea, as long as the government doesn't over step it. For example, taking over iron companies, etc. And I really think that it should be open to civilian's for employment as well. That way it will cut down on the loss margin when all of the military personnel go to fight.

As a member of the NG, I know how tough it is to get weapons. And I don't think that getting ever soldier at least one weapon would be that bad.

employing all new players will result in very little work output. Defeating the purpose of increasing weaponry stock.

Well as it stands now some are trying to push this through. This is using the eAmerican people to further there personal golas and I totally disagree with that on many levels. This will not help the Average person in any way and it will end up hurting us. You just can not control this type of thing just like you can not control the contracts. They are also looking to push through a Q4 weapons company for the marines that will be once again paid for with tax payer money. Honestly these guys are some of the best employees this nation has to offer and then your taking that much of our money out of the economy. Its not a good plan at all.

mindflay:

Did you take part in the last battle (Azores II)? Because if you did you would know how bad we got our butts kicked, real battle or not. Without weapons our armed forces cannot fight. Right now we can't get weapons. I think that needs to change, pronto.

I agree with you. I want the military to have weapons. I also want the rest of the nation to have what it needs. I do not want a government nationalizing companies so that only a few can have the experiance they want to have. I employee several NG and perhaps others and I would gladly give them weapons to fight with within reason to help the government lower costs. In fact I have offered to create a weapons company and stockpile weapons at a set price for the government which would cost the tax payers nothing until the weapons where needed.

There are plenty of weapons sitting on the market already. They are just not affordable because no one is buying, (there seems to be a theme in my comments). I just checked now. There are a butt load sitting on the shelves. Go to war.

I have one more question on this. where is the iron coming from for these weapons? has anyone asked that?

alright our country is actually going to war. And I can effectively fight as of tomorrow. Awesome, I think so. Hello stimulus to the weaponry economy.

I agree that Marines need weapons. I do not agree with government run companies. Contracting with civilian companies is the best way I feel to increase the economy and boost weapons productions. Th government has it within it's abilities to pay market value or better based on a time line of delivery. This would boost production as managers would start monitoring things much closer to meet the government time line for delivery. Of course as in RL if you do not meet the deadline of delivery the contracted price falls.

How do you enforce the contract? We have to let the weapon company managers keep the stock - the gov can't take delivery UNTIL they need to deliver the weapons. So how do you keep the owners honest? And responsive?

Daisy: You've been here all of five days. I mean no offense, but you've very little perspective upon which to base your claim. In fact all the major action in recent times has been fought out of Florida. No soldiers have had to move to other countries (this doesn't include the Marines, as it's their job to go to other countries to fight). So, no, you're incorrect.
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-Drake

I may have only been here for five days but that does not mean that I have not made the wiki my own personal Bible (metaphor, in other words I have a pretty fair Idea of what is in it and basic mechanics of the game) I have also made the large quantity of news articles and governement updates my own personal library. I have a very good idea what our economy looks like as well as many of the other leading nations.

My comment as to the wars and traveling, no I am not wrong, we have not fought in a war in a good while. Of the countless number of battles that have gone on around the world since then none of them the U.S. was involved in directly. So yes, general population (besides the elite) would have to travel to fight.

Now besides telling me that no I am wrong, tell me where am I wrong. Why am I wrong. I do not take the I have only been here 5 days as a reason why my opinions are flawed. That is not an argument, it is an unbased opinion.

As far as the contracts, Have them sign up for the contract, make it known in several popular papers. Instead of employing the marines in the government owned businesses have them work in the companies and report back daily what the company stocks look like. If they are not meeting the contract level of held stock for the government (production wise or depleting it by sending it to the general market)terminate the contract. Also, don't pay out until time of delivery, or pay half upfront and other half on delivery.