How vulnerable is the US border?
mngoose33
Now that the military advances of Portugal and Mexico have subsided (for now, at least) I figured it was a good time to explore whether our southern border is vulnerable. I’ve read a lot of people expressing the opinion that “sure, we can’t defend any of our recently-conquered Mexican territories because it’s 7 or 8 against 1, but our original borders are safe because of our existing MPPs.” Well, let’s take a look at this statement and see what the numbers tell us.
A country’s military prowess can be roughly estimated by looking at two variables: population and per capita strength. This formula ignores a couple of fundamentally important variables, such as access to weapons and willingness to fight, but for the sake of argument let us assume that these two variables are constant across all countries. Since population and military strength are known quantities for each country, we can calculate our susceptibility to the Portuguese and Mexican army (along with their allies).
Portugal + MPP allies
Country Pop. Avg. Strength
Portugal........2054.............3.6
Brazil............2741.............3.64
Turkey.......... 2342..............2.85
Indonesia.......9494.............. 3.56
Russia...........389................. 3.65
Hungary.........7998...............2.93
Italy..............2096................3 .75
Netherland.....506..................3.52
Iran...............2480................ 3.48
Mexico + MPP allies
Country Pop. Avg. Strength
Mexico.........175.................3.37
Hungary.........7998..............2.93
Chile.............360................3.5
Argentina........788................3.68
Switzerland......146.............. 6.32
Netherlands......506..............3.52
Bulgaria............417...............3. 26
Brazil...............2741..............3 .64
In order to determine how strong an alliance is, we must weight each country’s military power by its population. To do this, we divide a given country’s population by the total population in its alliance, and multiply this number by that same country’s per-capita strength. This sounds more confusing that it is. In a simple two-country alliance comprised of Country A (10,000 citizens, per-capita strength of 3) and Country B (1,000 citizens, per-capita strength of 4), the alliance’s combined population is 11,000 and its strength is (3*(10000/11000)) + (4*(1000/11000)) = 2.73 + 0.36 = 3.09.
Using this methodology, here are the breakdowns for the Portuguese and Mexican alliances:
Mexico (+ 7 allies): population = 13,131; military strength = 3.22
Portugal (+ 8 allies): population = 30,100; military strength = 3.35
And here’s the breakdown for USA, with and without our allies:
USA (alone): population = 12,221; military strength = 3.05
USA (+ 7 allies): population = 33,934; military strength = 3.33
A few things jumped out at me:
(1) The US has no chance against Portugal if its allies fight, too. We already knew that.
(2) The US standing by itself is almost as powerful as Mexico and its allies. This means that we COULD defeat Mexico without any allies even though we’d be fighting against 8 countries. The underlying stats are close enough that such a war would be determined by weapons access and level of participation.
(3) If Mexico and its allies attack US soil, they will have no chance provided the US allies participate.
(4) If Portugal and its allies attack US soil, things will be very, very interesting, even if our allies participate in full.
As I said upfront, this analysis is somewhat crude because it assumes that each country will participate uniformly in the war (i.e., if 80% of eligible citizens fight for Portugal, then 80% will fight for the US, etc). It also assumes that each country will have the same access to weapons. Perhaps these assumptions are reasonable, and perhaps they aren’t. I’m interested to hear what others think, so please feel free to comment.
Comments
I think your evaluation of eMexico's threat is accurate. An ePortugal attack on eUS would have greater chance of succeedimg but, if this were to occur, there would be much higher participation in the eUS to defend our homeland. People who may have saved their money before also would be buying the best weapons they could buy for defense. This also would be the trigger for MPPs that were set up to defend the homeland. I don't usually like statistics which don't factor in human emotion and participation in results, but this was a good assessment by you.
The defense of the homeland factor would be a big deal. The "homefield" advantage would play a big part. Despite that, it appears to me that we would be in for a hard fight.
You forgot France + MPP allies. If all 3 attack at the same time... Those will be interesting times.
You forgot REALLY to condider all the most important factor to evaluate a country army. This analysis is completely wrong
Nice writeup.
@Lobe:
I agree...participation could be higher for countries that are defending their original borders. I don't know how to measure this, but it's certainly worth noting.
@bisiacco:
What did I forgot to consider? As I said, I didn't factor in participation b/c it's difficult to predict and depends on several other factors (whether a country is fighting another war, for starters). A more sophisticated analysis could look at weapons availability, I suppose. But you offered no suggestions other than to say "this is wrong." That is not a particularly helpful or interesting response.
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The analysis is not accurate because it doesn't take into account the different weapon market situation in different countries. If a country runs out of weapons mid-fight then it is severely weakened. In order to estimate the weapon market situation of a country, real value (i. e., in gold) of average wages, and the price of weapons must be taken into account.
@Noel:
You are correct that if one country runs out of weapons and the other country doesn't, one would need to account for that fact in the model. I state this openly at the begining and end of the article.
Do we have reason to believe that the countries in Mexico's alliance (or Portugal's alliance) have a larger (and/or cheaper) supply of weapons than the U.S and its allies? I don't know the answer to this question, but barring evidence to the contrary, I think it's reasonable to assume that access issues are relatively constant across the three alliances in the steady-state.
@mngoose33
You need to check the gold supply for each country. US dont have a lot for now, less than 500gold? Portugal got around a lot hell more than ... but US allies, Spain is one of the richest but I don't think they gonna spend 7000++ gold for America.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/organization/1209221
@mngoose33:
You do know that you can buy weapons in any country and then donate them to soldiers, don't you?
The Quartermaster General's Office has a few organizations that roam the world buying up the cheapest (comparatively to Gold) weapons, gifts and tickets in order to supply all three branches of the military. Of course this process is tedious and can't beat stockpiles of Q5 weapons Indonesians are hoarding during peace time, but it's the next best thing.
The willingness to fight is definitely the deciding issue here. How much can you trust your allies? What is the will of the people who ultimately decide whether to engage in battle? I'm pretty sure that the US citizens would fight like mad if there was an invasion of their territory. Maybe the allies of the aggressor would fight more than the allies of the US, but they would not sustain the effort for a long time. I can see a "let's see if we can do it" one-time effort overwhelming the US defence, but this kind of thing lasting would be unthinkable, in my view.
Good article mngoose33, innovative method of anaysis. Voted.
the methodology isn't accurate. It depends if Portugal attacks US or the US attacks Portugal.
@Commandanta
Yeah, I think you're right about that...it's hard to estimate how willing one country might be to fight (and I'm open to suggestions if anyone has ideas about how to do this). But, I agree that the defender would have an advantage in participation rate, particularly if the fight were drawn out.
@Bismark:
As the article's title implies, my analysis is premised on the U.S. defending its border (i.e., Portugal + allies attacking US + allies).