How to get the Manticore tank skin? - [Update] Fighter Arsenal and my current PP
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Basic scenario: Getting to 40k prestige points would require a similar amount of food fights. I will not take in consideration initial energy and level ups, at this point it’s useless. To produce those fights you would need almost 4000 energy bars.
And let’s make a simple calculation at this moment: 4000 energy bars = 200 10xpacks of double energy bar = 5400Gold if you already got them through energy bar offers or = 7800Gold if you want to buy them now.
Scary? Yes, if you are not a card player, or if you did not accumulate energy bars. So let's assume you either have plenty of gold or you where careful enough and get a lot of energy bars.
Epic scenario: Fighting in epic battles would half the energy bars needed and we can start the calculations.
And the good news is can get some bars on the way.
The amount of bars you can get back up to 40k is as following:
- 0 – 5000 PP: 17 EBs and a lot of stuff;
- 5000 – 10000 PP: 60 EBs actually starting from 7000 PP after you get some more stuff;
- 10000 – 15000 PP: 90 EBs;
- 15000 – 20000 PP: 135 EBs;
The total sum of EBs up to 20k PP is 302. After that you get 20 EBs at every 1000 PP you get. Up to 39k PP they sum to 380 EBs. As a first math equation you would need only 2000 – 302 – 380 ~ 1320 (EBs).
Hmm, still far from what I have.
Another good news is the time is ticking and you get free food fights back. So let’s assume the epic battles come quite early and in enough number to do as many fights as possible. So we will still have 6 days of accumulating food fights. A 20k PP mark would give one 60 energy recovery per 6 min. = 600 recovery per hour and 14400 per day (that if you don’t work and train). 6 days of such fighting effort would give 8640 food fights and thus you can spare ~ 430 “Epic” EBs. If you are fortunate to have the Power Pack the day would count up to 19200 food fights per day that would spare 11500 food fights and the equivalence of 550 “Epic” EBs.
I would continue the calculation with two actors: pack-less player (let’s call him Silexu) and pack-full player (aka Packman).
Silexu would need 1320 – 430 = 880 EBs while Packman would need 1320 – 550 = 770 EBs
Now let’s take in consideration the energy they can accumulate in the beginning of the week and as well the energy they gain in level ups.
Silexu has no pack, thus he can accumulate with all his houses 1230 food fights. Counting 2 full energy at start of the week and two level ups up to 20k Silexu would spare 4x1230 food fights ~ 25 “Epic” EBs.
If we count that he needs to reach almost 32K PP in epic fights in first day so we can count 1 more level up: finally we have ~30 EBs.
The final number for Silexu is ~ 850 EBs.
Packman has packs so with his houses he can be at 3430 (Blitz Pack + Power Pack). Counting 2 full and level ups sum up to 13700 PP, thus saving ~70 “Epic” EBs
The final number for Packman is ~ 700 EBs.
[Update] Fighter Arsenal
So, fighter arsenal brings 200 more energy every hour. That sums up to 4800 per day. In 6 days you gain the equivalence of 24 * 6 = 144 "Epic" EBs. In order to buy them you need ~ 7 10x packs of double energy bars which cost 7*27 ~ 190 Gold. By spending 60 more you get also 100 * 5Mil. + 300 * 1.5 Mil. = 950Mil. Damage. I think you can recover some gold from that. If you use it as TP you can get 9.5k CC. If you use the bombs in the next epic fight for 25CC for example you get around 23k ~ 60G.
Thanks djstrach and costin1989 for noticing my initial mistake.
[Update 2] I already reached 27700 Prestige Points by consuming almost 500 EBs and 180 double EBs. And remember I am not Packman.
I am thinking if I should buy the Arsenal or only the needed double EB's to reach the 32k milestone. In first case I will fight only food fights in the upcoming epic battles (at least one planned) and recover 240 EBs. If I don't buy the Arsenal I need to buy 120 more EBs (60 double = 150G) to cover remaining 4k PP in the epic battle. I think I will go with first option.
[Update 3]
Related article in Hungarian written by Dunedan:
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How to get the Manticore tank skin?
[Update] Fighter Arsenal and my current PP
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5000-7000 gold? i pass!
Ups. I scared people from the start. Let's make it less scary.
how much less for Romanians 😛
I would love to get some benefits as Romanian. Small chances.
i got the mjolnir with 450 ebars
Great! I was not so fortunate!
i also did some math https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/how-to-make-profit-from-manticore-2603598/1/20
I rarely see any epic wars. So the calculation is wrong I guess.
There will be a lot of people investing in Epic fights tomorrow. If this is not the case, then the game is really dying.
mkd is doing an epic, serbia is doing an epic and romania is doing an epic today, also romania will be doing epic for 3 days
i think we will have epic tommorow before erep 03.00
there are already 2 epics this evening. any more epic is welcome.
I'd pass even if it was free, ef skins.
Same here. For me, the garage thing was a blessing because I can use the old one.
Besides looking cool, there is no intrinsic value to the Manticore. Division shifts are so expensive that there can be no profit made...
But division switching can be fun!
is there any quantifiable advantage to having one of these tank skins?
Besides looking cool? Don't thin so.
then the whole thing is ridiculous and juvenile. another way for plato to sell you gold.
.............oh the humanity!
thx for the work; so again, no thx :/
seamana cu protoss dragoon :/ 😛 http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/4/45407/1478713-dragoon_rush.jpg
Bre deci daca am PP si BP ma duc la 20k PP in prima epica marti si restu 20k de points adun din FF in cursul saptamanii right?
Nu faci 20k în restul săptămânii nici dacă ai power pack. Cu el faci 19800 pe zi, dacă nu muncești de loc. Fac vreo 12 PP în șase zile. Deci trebuie să lupți pana pe la 27-28k PP
ziceam ca un level up etc te-ar mai ajuta sa ajungi acolo spre punctele alea 😃
Te ajută dar nu suficient.
That is asuming there will be loads of epic fights during the week so you can use all your energy in epic battles. Something from the past and I don't think it will return. Especially as the skin gives no profitable reward to us the players.
Perhaps, when there are a few epics during the week, packman could have a week in which he will have gained some EB's.
My final calculations are assuming you take advantage of first day epics, at least enough to reach 28k or 32k PP. After that you just fight every food fight you get for free. Every other epic battle during the week will help you get more bars.
Yeah I know. But I'm talking about net gain of bars, not the limitation of losses 😉
There is no gain at all. You loose bars even if you go only to 10 PP. Going to 20k is even worse. Going over 20k is the worst. The only reward is the tank skin.
When Packman starts off by getting to 5k PP during an early epic he'll end up with 500h/hr. If he uses all energy gained after that he'll have a small net loss in EB's. If he has a lvl up during the first epic he'll end up almost neutral. In both cases he'll roughly reach 14k PP.
If during the week a few epic come by in whch he can dump (almost) full FF he'll end up gaining EB's.
At the early weeks of the epics on average packman could gain around 150EB's per week...
oh by the way, as I think that's not entirely clear; I skipped the pasrt of wanting to get the skin. Just trying to optimize the play for optimum gain to Packman.
Your analysis is very correct. Going up to 5k is the most efficient. Next comes the 10k because you have a big chance to reach 20k by end of the week, and from 15 to 20k the rewards are the most efficient.
The return actual value of investing EB to get 30k PP in first day is none or useless. Even with epics.
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.
..................................Albert Einstein
Well, NOW you should now that universe is infinite. Douche! xD
infinite.......... or multiple. still up for grabs.
good article
now you should make another round of calculations because of FIGHTER ARSENAL (+20 energy) 😛
That's simple, you can stop earlier than 28k or 32k. I will do the calculations but also balance the spent 250G vs buying EBs at promo price.
250 gold spending, but get 500 kk damage. for D1, D2 is free, for D3 almost free and for D4 let's say half expend
VSE.
Admins, throw in bar-earning sustainability...
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Think About Fight Arsenal for 250g you'll get +20 hp/min
I already though about. I will update the article soon.
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Great article.
There is Prestige Points booster to. It helps, but i don't know how much.
Indeed but I don't think they are many left, it's long time they were not available. And one lasts only 5 min.
true. 🙂
I still have a few left. They last 5 minutes each & you get 1 extra PP per FF
But I am not a tank skin Hunter so I will save them