Garven Clarifies Some Points *UPDATED*
Garven Dreis
Hello All,
Following a discussion on IRC, I raised some points about the direction of Sol. I also gave insight to people in the room about my plans if I wasn't elected. I would like to talk about these points in greater detail to avoid any potential political mudslinging.
The Sol Alliance stands first and foremost as a defensive alliance representing the neutrality and sovereignty of individual Nations. Many small neutral countries, which have similar ideals to Sol, have been left in a precarious predicament, so there are possibilities that Sol may look to incorporate one or more of these now neutral nations, which are not imperialistic and align with Sol's ideals. This statement has no bearing on my Prime Ministerial platform, and it is a Sol matter which does not currently affect eAustralia is it still being discussed, and formal negotiations have not begun.
My comment on these nations as PEACE referred to the neutral nations that remain in PEACE. I was using the name as an easily identifiable group of nations, and which does not refer to the PEACE alliance actually joining Sol, as this is not only impossible, but Sol would never stand for it and I find insulting.
These nations that could possibly joining Sol as ex-PEACE neutral nations are;
Japan
Phillipinnes (current Sol members)
France (neutrality recently announced)
Austria
These nations no longer have any ties to the former PEACE GC.
I would also like to point out that I am not the leader in Sol, but merely direct Military Forces and military strategy.
Secondly, in my capacity as Sol Military Commander, I began issuing and putting plans in place for SolDiers to defend eFrance. I would like to make it clear at this point that the Australian Military Marshal was informed of this fact at the first convenient opportunity, and the AMM was also directed to change the battle orders for the Dropbears and ACUK upon day change. My capacity as dPM and Sol Commander did not affect my judgement either way. The AMM did not need to be informed immediately due to the reason that it was not an eAustralian Military issue, but an issue for the Sol Alliance
UPDATE: I have since resigned as Sol Military Commander, As I will not have the position used against me by those who seek to discredit me. I am saddened by this, as I always had worked to better eAustralia, and Sol in general.
Lastly, many people have questioned me about my plans if I do not win the Prime Ministerial elections. Simply put, they are all up in the air, but one of my goals since joining the ACP was to be able to have a socialist choice in countries globally. It shouldn't be held against me that I have a goal such as this, as it is goals that drive us towards great things.
I just felt like I had to clarify these things, and remember, on the 5th,
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Comments
"And Garven it has EVERYTHING to do with you running for Prime Minister this is a big deal, and should not be brushed aside"
As I stated before in my article, in my capacity as Sol Military Commander, I asked for assistance from many Sol Nations, eAustralia included.
You don't raise anything that I have not addressed Patti11, it appears you are merely trying to create divisions and problems when none shouls exist.
well I am raising points garven:
"Many small neutral countries, which have similar ideals to Sol, have been left in a precarious predicament, so there are possibilities that Sol may look to incorporate one or more of these now neutral nations,"
http://www.egovstats.info/" target="_blank">http://www.egovstats.info/ according to egov, France does 3 times the damage of Australia, Sol's superpower so is not in many Sol nations positions
I am responding to this statement, France is not a small neutral nation as you have sai😛
"Many small neutral countries, which have similar ideals to Sol, have been left in a precarious predicament, so there are possibilities that Sol may look to incorporate one or more of these now neutral nations,"
Your feelings towards "vulnerable" PEACE nations should have been made public in your Presidential manifesto
"Your feelings towards "vulnerable" PEACE nations should have been made public in your Presidential manifesto"
What I think of neutral countries in my capacity as a potential PM has been made clear. What Sol's view of these neutral countries may differ.
these attack by Spain are retaliation. France is Neutral my ass.
also Spain signed a MPP with us when we took back WA. That shows they were ready to defend us. Deploy our units against them...... and people said we betrayed Indonesia..... thats far worse
"What I think of neutral countries in my capacity as a potential PM has been made clear. What Sol's view of these neutral countries may differ."
Considering you have a high position in Sol, and have stated you wish to continue your position if elected, I highly doubt it
@ Tim Holtz,
So it is okay for countries to claim they are liberators but seek revenge?
@Patti11,
You may throw us much doubt into the playing field as you wish, but at the end of the day, I will always choose eAustralia over Sol, and the principles that make us such a great nation.
Wouldn't that be a conflict of interest then, which does have an effect on your PM candidature? Conflicts of interest should be made public.
@Garven
they didn't Claim to be liberators. They are
Revenge for Being wiped off the MAP? hell yeah. Don't think eFrance is some sort of victim. They wiped Spain and Canada from the MAP. They stole the PEACEkeepers money so they couldn't defend Austria from Hungary.
They have made everyone their enemy and now they are getting exactly what they deserve
Then Tim, let me ask you, is it prudent that we invade eIndonesia on the basis that they occupied us for so long?
@Garven: you have just proved your letting your sol influences get into Australia, so the doubt is there
Patti - careful quoting another player in an article or comment without their permission, it is a reportable offence.
Um, Sol infulence aside, of course alliances of that nature will always influence what we do. I cannot see a way around that basically - I mean, the same argument could have been used when snayke set Sol up, or Hekter tried to chuck eAus out.
So long as there remains a modicum of responsibility that the CP in the end is up for looking after eAus first, that is enough for me.
im sure that when eAustralia didn't exist the Old guard would have been more than willing to if they had eAustralia whole. We have had 18 months to cool over from the Incident. The majority of the country has been scared into appeasing Indonesia (something reflected by the NAP)
Spain on the other hand was only conquered a month or 3 ago. The Occupation is still fresh in their minds.
you cant really compare the situations as although the actual situations are similar the events and their time frames are completely different
"you cant really compare the situations as although the actual situations are similar the events and their time frames are completely different"
History has a habit of repeating 😉
If you don't vote for Garven Dreis, eAustralia losses.
@Ben P
that's your opinion 😉
what garven said can be found here: http://forum.auserepublik.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=4879" target="_blank">http://forum.auserepublik.com/viewtopic.[..]=4879
If you dont vote for Garven, eAustralia losses.
Well said 🙂
@Tim Holtz
"also Spain signed a MPP with us when we took back WA. That shows they were ready to defend us. Deploy our units against them...... and people said we betrayed Indonesia..... thats far worse"
Spain helped liberated WA from Indo. But what can you say now that Indo is siding with Spain against France?
that's because France has burned bridges with pretty much everyone and now they are trying to use Sol as a way out of that.
If Sol claims to be Neutral then they should NOT be letting eFrance join. eFrance is one of the furthest things from Neutral that there is.
Tim Holtz, what do you think we should do then? Patting them in the back for helping Malaysia and China and then let them to die?
You know why the Indonesians are mad at France? Because their help saved Malaysia from total obliteration. They have had lots of differences with the more aggressive ex-PEACE nations lately but the real turning point was helping China and Malaysia. France is most certainly not using Sol to get out of this. In fact they got into this extremely bad position mostly by helping Sol members.
no they got into this position by conquering and wiping Spain from the map
i thought that was obvious......
Okay, and Spain got into that position by trying to PTO France monthly and attacking them several times.
Anyhow that's besides the point. This cycle of aggression and revenge should stop. And France has taken other avenues lately. This Spanish attack makes very little sense in my opinion.
Garven, I can see how your Sol responsibilities are a potential (read 'likely') conflict of interest. Surely to be a serious presidential candidate, at a minimum you need to relinquich your Sol responsibilities.
Personally, I'm not sure that either eFrance or eSpain are worth pitching in with. eFrance are the eRep pariahs, and frankly for good reason. And eSpain, despite having supported eAustralia with an MPP after the eWA incident, aren't exactly covering themselves in glory with this retaliatory war against eFrance. Siding with either side seems destined to create division.
But I'm not sure that's entirely the point here. Sol has the right to make decisions regarding who is and isn't member states. Sure, as a member eAustralia gets a vote in that, and I'd certainly hope that we'd vote against eFrance being admitted into Sol, but it's only one vote. The final decision lies with Sol as a whole, and that should be respected.
Despite this, I would have to say that I am not comfortable with the idea of Garven holding both roles... a representative of Sol (and yes, I do understand that he's only the military commander, but I've never found his posts regarding Sol to be especially apolitical) and prime minister of eAustralia. I would want a prime minister with only one loyalty.
(PS: I do not support withdrawing from the Sol alliance on the basis of it's admissions policy. I'm a proud supporter of Sol, and of the fight to protect eMalaysia.)
I was very concerned with the campaigning I saw to get eAus military to move to France. What consideration was given and discussion was had with military management about this decision, or did one person take it on himself to make all decisions because of his obligation and power within an outside entity?
If we're to be associated with PEACE lite, we should have a voice. Many eAus citizens may not want this. Why is there no discussion and why was transparency granted only after it was pretty well forced?
I'm very uncomfortable with what I'm observing lately. I'm very concerned for eAus if things like this become standard procedure.
Unfortunately, it already seems to have become standard procedure, Dycey. There hasn't been a great record regarding government transparency and public consultation in recent times, I'm afraid... and much as I'd like to say the incidents were isolated to one PM/party/clique, I'm not sure that I can. There seems to be a collective disregard for transparency, public consultation and the principle of representation of the people.
It's very difficult to have a discussion on whether we should or should not join a battle after that battle starts. There just isn't the time.
Since Sol was asking for help, the PM here decided to give it. For me it's that simple and totally understandable.
Binda
ACUK Marshall
@ Patti11 - Sol requests Garvin acts - that is the sign of a future PM with a positive agenda in the interest of our allies
Sol requests - lets debate the alliance - that is the sign of an ex-PM with a destructive agenda
@Tim Holz - revenge based decision making is the sign of someone lost in the past - it is time to move on with constructive debate for the future of this great country - the break up of the PEACE is not a threat it is opportunity - time to take advantage.
"Since Sol was asking for help, the PM here decided to give it. For me it's that simple and totally understandable."
Ahh that is where you are wrong Binda, it seems even those in the military are being deceived
Sol had never voted to send troops to France it was only a request. Cerri agreed to send troops because it is the "right" thing to do. It is clear however, that Cerri saw it as country A attacks country B, lets defend country B, and ignored all the other important factors.
@savonrepus
did France make any steps to try to sign a peace treaty with Spain
that would be a NO. If a country doesn't even try to negotiate peace then they deserve being conquered.
Someone said that France was trying to build better relationships with EDEN. wouldn't it be a top priority to get a good relationship with the closest EDEN member to them?
Tim Holtz: let me put this in terms that you will understand.
If you read the article written by Patti11 (and make no mistake, he is the REAL one that will be elected if you vote for Cozza) then you are making it so that you will no longer recieve military funding.
You're basically just stabbing yourself in the foot.
Good luck with that.
Why is it that it's so much better for Spain to continue their feud with France? Have ANY of you read the wiki at all? LEARN SOME EHISTORY IF YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE COMMENTS BASED ON SPANISH/FRENCH FEUDING! Spain has been trying to wipe France out since Beta. France got paybacks during WWIII and suddenly, THEY'RE the bad guy? France also refused to attack the US as a blocking maneuver during the first fights in Slovakia. It's not a black and white issue and it's pretty complicated. However, France also pitched into help Malaysia out against Indonesia, sending tanks to help prevent them from being wiped out. That's a pretty ballsy move, considering it's the Indos we're talking about here.
@Timeoin
Would i really be supporting this if i didn't know exactly what it means. I'm not some Newbie who is supporting the old guard cos i think they are cool or something.
I funded myself to General and I'm likely going to fund myself to Field Marshall too. I don't want government money to do this.
As i know your up to date with knowledge of the military you know all the internal problems that have plagued the military recently. This Privatization will help put an end to some of these problems AND it will leave us better off Financially to support MPPs with allies and our own wars if needed. 2 birds with 1 stone
I don't understand why you keep clarifying things and changing things ... Don't you have a clear platform? Are you constantly adjusting your statements to appear to be what the people want? I don't understand stepping into an election for an important position before you understand what your beliefs and convictions are. If you waiver like this now, what would you do from your office - go with whoever had your ear at the moment? Why don't you try being true to yourself? Until you are you can't be true to anyone else.
Here's the man who wants to run your country. I'm ashamed of his actions, though I know he's gloating.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/swagman-s-notebook-196730/1" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/sw[..]730/1
Go Cozza!!!