First thoughts [GR/EN]
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by SCANIA 113
(English version is below)
Καλησπέρα σας.
Το τελευταίο διάστημα έχουμε παρατηρήσει διάφορα περίεργα γεγονότα στην κοινότητα μας.
Όλα ξεκίνησαν με την σκέψη να ενταχθεί η Τουρκία στην EDEN. Η συμφωνία περιλάμβανε δοκιμή της Τουρκίας, για 1 μήνα αντί για 3, παραχώρηση 2 περιοχών στην Βουλγαρία, και υπογραφή μεταξύ τους MPP.
3 μήνες μετά,στην παρούσα φάση, στο συμβούλιο της EDEN, η Βουλγαρία άσκησε ένα από τα δικαιώματα που εχει σαν full member, και τίποτα παραπάνω.
Τι έγινε στο μεσοδιάστημα?
- Η Τουρκία βάραγε υπέρ EDEN, χωρίς να προκαλεί.
- Η Βουλγαρία ήταν αμέτοχη σε όλες τις μάχες.
- Η Βουλγαρία προκαλούσε συνεχώς με την συμπεριφορά της (θα χρησιμοποιήσω μία φράση του Fear The Greeks -Φτιάχναμε ρυζόγαλο στην Βουλγαρία, ήθελε κανέλα, της βάζμε κανέλα, άλλαζε γνώμη ήθελε άχνη κτλ).
Με την Τουρκία, με χωρίζουν πολλά, γιατί ότι και αν γίνει ποτέ δεν θα ξεχάσω τα γεγονότα της πραγματικής ζωής.
Στο παιχνίδι όμως έχουν δείξει και εφαρμόσει αλλαγή κατεύθυνσης, και δεν μου επιτρέπουν αυτή τη στιγμή να τους παρατήσω.
Από την άλλη η Βουλγαρία, προκαλεί συνεχώς με την στάση της, και με ενοχλεί η δήθεν μαγκιά τους. Αναφέρουν στα logs, πως βαριούνται και θέλουν έναν εχθρό.. Γιατί εχτές που η Κροατία έχανε στο Μεξικό, δεν είχαν εχθρό? Έπρεπε να είναι στην αντίπαλη συμμαχία η Τουρκία δηλαδή για να βαρέσουν?
Δεν με ενδιαφέρει το damage της Τουρκίας. Θα μπορούσε να ήταν κάποια άλλη χώρα πιο μικρή.
Θα κλείσω λέγοντας οτι δεν επιθυμώ την παραμονή μου σε αυτήν την συμμαχία, με αυτήν την διοίκηση η οποία εδώ και καιρό είναι σχεδόν ανύπαρκτη και ανίκανη. Όσο υποστήριζα την Βουλγαρία στην αρχή, τόσο με απομάκρυνε με τα καμώματα της..
Αν ήταν στο χέρι μου ήδη θα προχώραγα σε νέες συμφωνίες με Κροατία, Αλβανία, Κίνα, Τουρκία, Ρουμανία και Αργεντινή. Και πιθανόν κάποιες άλλες χώρες. Σίγουρα όμως όχι την Βουλγαρία.
Δεν θα ρίξω ούτε 1 hit υπέρ Βουλγαρίας μέχρι να διορθωθούν τα πράγματα στην Συμμαχία.
Οι σκέψεις αυτές είναι δικές μου, και σε καμμιά περίπτωση δεν εκπροσωπώ το MU μου, το κόμμα μου ή το κοινοβούλιο, οπότε αν σας ενοχλούν ο υπόλογος είμαι εγώ και μόνο.
English version
Good afternoon.
Lately we have noticed several strange events in our community.
It all started with the idea of Turkey joining the EDEN. The agreement included a test of Turkey, for 1 month instead of 3, 2 areas given to Bulgaria, and a sign MPP between them.
3 months later, at this stage, at the meeting of EDEN, Bulgaria brought one of its rights as a full member, and nothing more.
What happened in the meantime;
- Turkey hit for EDEN, without provoking.
- Bulgaria was uninvolved in all battles.
- Bulgaria is constantly causing with her the behavior (I'll use a phrase of Fear The Greeks-we made ruzogalo in Bulgaria, they wanted cinnamon, we put cinnamon, they change their mind and wanted sugar etc).
As for Turkey, divides a lot, because whatever they do i will never forget the events of real life.
In the game, however, they have shown and implement change in direction, and I can not currently allow myself to quit.
On the other hand, Bulgaria, constantly causing with their attitude, and it bothers me that supposedly bulling. They say on logs, how bored they are and want an enemy .. Why yesterday that Croatia lost in Mexico, had not an enemy; It had to be in the opposing alliance to Turkey to fight?
I do not care for the damage of Turkey. It could have been another smaller country.
I'll close by saying that I do not want my stay in this alliance, with this administration which has long been almost non-existent and incapable. As i supported Bulgaria in the beginning her actions turn me to the opposite direction..
If it were up to me, i would already discuss into new agreements with Croatia, Albania, China, Turkey, Romania and Argentina. And probably some other countries. But certainly not with Bulgaria.
I will not male not even 1 hit for Bulgaria up to fix things in the Alliance.
These thoughts are my own and in no case represent my MU, my party or the parliament, so if you are annoyed, i am the one to dispute.
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Ψήφος man!!!!!!!!
The agreement included a test of Turkey, for 1 month instead of 3, 2 areas given to Bulgaria, and a sign MPP between them
Only the part "for 1 month instead of 3" is true. Yes, we brought one of our rights as a full member, after EDEN HQ denied us that right many times. Who is wrong in this situation? If EDEN was working like a real alliance, this problem could be solved long time ago.
"Bulgaria was uninvolved in all battles" - how many times we've attacked Serbia and FYROM last 3 mounta, and how many times Greece did? And what Turkey was doing in the meantime? why is your memory so short?
Philipotel
I said that you used your rights as a full member, and thats nothing wrong.
But in Greece, we say that legal is not always and moral..
As for the damage you can see, that in the most desicive battle last 2 months yesterday in Mexico, you were absent.
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so, it was moral when Turkey and EDEN HQ was blackmailing and insulting us last 2 mounts, but is immoral that we've used our rights? We have tried talking and negotiating for too long, it was time to bring this to the end.
We were absent in Mexico you say? Well, if this is true, one to blame is no other than Romper, who made 40 ml. damage to prevent Bulgaria to have one more resource few weeks ago.
Philipotel
Please my friend dont close your eyes to the logs
You Cp said you wanted an enemy because you were bored..
The world is full of enemies man..
Dont you think that it is not all good and shiny, when Greece, Croatia, and Romania havent voted but supreme commander ended the voting before deadline and just after Italia has changed its vote in favor of Turkey?
Eden lost bulgarian players with this turkish bulls*ts. Why are you so concerned about turks which are kick out from all alliances but you don't pay sh*t for eBulgaria even if we were next to you in the most hard times of Eden?
We fought to stay in the alliance last 3 months just because we though we have friend in it /and we have! - the vote showed it/.
Romania and Croatia voted "abstain" just like you but they dont make such a drama. If you not wanted eBulgaria in Eden why you dont voted it?
We said it clear from the first day of turkish application - we just dont want them in the alliance no mettare what it cost!
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i basically agree and thanks for the quote 🙂 to my bulgarian friends ( still few soundminded left) i ll say only this..''Caesar's wife must be above suspicion'' SO START ACTING LIKE THE ALLIES U USED TO BE...if u had come to mexico yesterday and thrown your dmg nobody and i mean nobody would be talking now about leaving,breaking the eden,ne and all this shit...all u did was nagging and letting little children to provoke harasse and troll the shit out of us...what did u expect?if your gonna act like bullys you are gonna be treated as one...now the shit has hit the fan...catch my drift...?
BOOYTIT
Are you kidding me? We fight in every battle, because we don`t have any other place to fight. And yesterday we fought for Mexico, we don`t fight against Croatia. I think they said that when they fight for Turkey. We heard that they want to change their alliance and we went to help them. Do you like it when someone else is acting hypocritically? We gave everything so many times for EDEN and what we get in the end? Nothing. Greece has her colonies in arabia, Croatia go in Mexico, and you picked Turkey for trial member. We do not like and do not want to be in an alliance with them. Do you think that we will give our honor and pride for EDEN too?
@Bageristo my point exactly its all about the bonus🙂
@feartherGreeks
Last three days I fought in Mexico on Croatia's side even if Eden's HQ didn't vote in our favor at that time. unfortunatly I dont deal dmg like romper or flausino but i'm not going to pay a single coin for this game. I'm not part of bulgarian eArmy but I saw many bulgarian avatars fightin according Eden's orders yesterday. Yes, we lost but do you really think the damege made last 3 months in alliance will disappear just in a one moment.
Most of bulgarian players want to stay and fight for Eden, but it's is not only up to us.
Do you really belive that we will stay in if Croatia, Romania and Greece dont want? We know that these three countries are the core of Eden and if their vote was against us, we would leave Eden.
But you voted "abstain" and let the small countries to resolve your problems.
Our CPs made several mistakes last 3 months but for one they were right - the question was ebulgaria or eturkey.
Sorry, but in life you are not always receive all what you want. Bulgaria and Turkey in one alliance is something what you won't see ever again in this game.
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Bulgarians=arrogants
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feartheGREEKS It is not at all for bonuses, but we must have where to go. After the Turks there are other enemy countries, but to the west are only allies. After Serbia and F.Y.R.O.M. had nothing for us, and them no one can keep them forever. With the Turks in Eden, we find ourselves in a cell with the ability to fight with some of the most powerful countries and no chance for development. How long time do you think will pass before we lose ourselves as a nation in these senseless wars? Is this your goal?
Pidov
We did not abstrain
We had 24 hours, even though you immorally proposed Turkey as NE, to blackmail the voting process.
When results were 4 2, TiTO, closed the voting.
It was not a voting process, it was a joke!
@ PIDOV& @ BAGERISTO as i ve said before there are still a few sounminded bulgarians left in this game and i think u are among them...as for the other part now...being in an alliance means that sometimes u have to do things that u dont always benefit from...turkey offered u an mpp in eXchange for the bonus but u rejected it...if u had done THAT we wouldnt have come to THIS...as for honor devotion and all that if u disagreed with the unanimous decision to accept turkey as a trial member why didnt you leave back then?i m pretty sure u didnt leave because u wanted to manipulate eden and start raising the stakes as if in a poker game where u try to gain the most out of it...bad played if u ask me...we are all in now and its time to show what cards you ve got 🙂
хахахаха Пидов и Багериста много сте смешни, като ви говорихме, че треа да напуснем тоя скапан съюз вие не та не, имали сме били приятели лол. Айде сега плачете ощеееееее, баси наивниците сте....
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feartheGREEKSY You do not understand. They wanted our friendship too. Can you believe how arrogant is that? We did not leave EDEN because our friends are there, not to manipulate them. The suspension of our rights was the manipulation and the pressure to signing a MPP, to become a member again. Expulsion of our representatives of the channels was pressure and manipulation. Eden wanted from us a month and we gave them a month, but again they could not reach a solution. How long would still seek a solution if it was not an ultimatum? Eden delay things deliberately to keep both countries in the alliance, hoping things will get better by itself. They would never make a decision without an ultimatum.
Wildrunner това,че ти си готов да бягаш, а не да се бориш мен не ме вълнува особенно. Това,че си готов да продадеш Ирландия, Русия, Индия и Чили също за да стане твоето, отново не е мой проблем. Теб кой те натиска та звъниш във всяка статия немога да разбера? Всеки си има мнение и за разлика от теб, аз съм избрал да го защитавам, както и съюзниците си. Ти,че днес псуваш сърби и макета, а утре си готов да им целуваш г*за не означава че и аз ще го направя
@featheGreek "sure u didnt leave because u wanted to manipulate eden" and what is our benefit of "manipulating eden"? Loosing 2 of 8 resources? 3 months of insults?
The game is be-polar if we left Eden, we should have gone in ONE. Do you think it was the best think for us or Eden?
I said clearly from day one of this fukin conflict - we will not be in one alliance with eTurkey. But Eden HQ and your CP wanted both - eBG and eTurkey, something imposible. You had a several chances to choose and I belive it is not late even know.
Your CP could call a summit and vote ... there are severel other ways to choose eBG or eTurkey, but if you don't - this fukin situation will last forever. That's way the SC of Eden cast the vote. It was about time to finished this issue.
It's about time greek to made their decision too. The question is not closed till greeks say so. So just make your decision and lets stop this fukin troll war. Cro+RO+GR>BG in Eden, so what are you waiting for?
+ Cro+RO+GR>BG in Eden, so what are you waiting for?
ти за кво точно се бориш бе Багеристо? Аз отколко време повтарям, че ще става все по-лошо и по-лошо вие не та не. Разбери, че това, което беше преди 2 месеца никога няма да се върне, бе. It's time to move on now.
С жал ще гледам как малаките ви плюят в лицето, докато вие им се обяснявате в любов.
Cro+RO+GR>BG in Eden
не мога да ви разбера....
voted...so true !
Cro+RO+GR>BG in Eden - yes, but it doesn't mean we have to accept all your decisions. You suspended our rights in Eden once so i dont see where is your problem.
and if these three countries dont want eBG in Eden, eBG wont be in Eden. We stayed just because we thought the common past mean something.
I say for third time, you have to choose eTR or eBG, there is no third way. If you dont vote, it doesnt mean that there is no problem.