Finanskrise - financial crisis ?
kkjerr
Begynder krisen at ramme Erepublik ligesom resten af vereden?!?
Efter opdatering af spillet, som gjorde det en del nemmere at passe sin jord, så stoppede "botten" med at opkøbe vare på markede. Hvilket har resulterede i at priserne falder i meget i øjeblikket.
I går kunne man finde Q6 tanks til kun 38 DEM.
I takt med priserne falder, så forsvinder der arbejde og lønen falder. På det tyske arbejds market er højeste løning omkring 170 DEM pr. dag. For kun en ugen siden var de højeste oppe på ca. 250 DEM.
Har selv oplevet det, idet jeg befinder mig i Kina, hvor jeg startede med en løn på 170 CNY men er landet på 142 CNY. Eftersom jeg bliver fyret efter 1-2 dage.
Folk har problemer med at de ikke kan komme af med deres vare og snart begynder vi at se fyldte lagere.
Sådan ender det for os alle hvis der ikke bliver gjort noget.
Så Plato sæt gerne botten ind på market igen, ellers bliver spillet sat i stå.
English version
Beginner crisis hitting eRepublik like the rest of vereden?!?
After updating the game, which made it a lot easier to care for his land, then stopped "bot" to buy goods on the market. Which has resulted in prices falling in much the moment.
Yesterday, could i find Q6 tanks to only 38 DEM.
As prices fall, then disappear to work and Loenen fall. on the German labor market is highest løning around 170 DEM. today. For only one week ago was the highest reaches ca. DEM 250.
Have even seen it since I'm in China, where I started with a salary of 170 CNY but now i'am on only of 142 CNY. i getting fired after 1-2 days.
People have problems they can not get rid of their goods and soon we begin to look crowded warehouses.
How it ends for us all if nothing is done.
So Plato sets the bot into market again, otherwise the game stopped.
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I hope Plato will react quick.
Otherwise a lot of players will leaving.
I think its just a temporary breakdown of the bot.
Like PecattiSyn say if the bot not come back to the market will lots of players quit the game.
The game is slowly. but if it should take 14 days - 1 month to earn 1000 for the low players, so will many of them leave. And plato will not earn nothing, because nobody will buy gold for real money.
I hope the bot will come back to the market..
what PecattiSyn and kkjerr say!!!
The good thing about it is that the excessive wages will fall to a normal level. They were way too high, it was not possible for someone with companies lower than Q5 to engage a worker. Hopefully this will change.
If someone wants to produce a lot of tanks or food, he has to buy new companies. Good for the admins.
agree .. But does not help that if prices fall in the market, then those with less than Q5 earn on it. If the price of Q4 weapon drops to 20 DEM then one and a worker must have 110 + raws (0.20 * 560) 112 = 222 DEM and get 280 for Q4 weapon so he earns only 58 and have loss if he employs in his rubbermine ex .
The low Qfactories have not even somebody to buy their shit anymore. Or who is going to buy a Q1 weaponto Q4. They are crap. The bot was the only customer.
I don't see the big problem, i even think it is a good thing.
ok, ormal people (like me) won't have as much money as they have now through working as manager and selling their goods to the bot. But now the bot is off, working as manager wont bring enough money anymore. But there will be a true economy, where people who pay workers will be able to make money. And a good side effect is, that this inflation will end.
And where will money come from when there's not bot generating money? Everything will go down massively, regardless of whether it's the FRM/WRM price, the weapons (especially Q1-Q5), food, salaries, gold in currency.. And the fancy "improvements" in working as a manager are pure perkiness facing this.
so what? Everything will be cheaper, so everyone will need less money. Of course, people wont be able to afford as many weapons (i think, food will still be made through manager work), but why is that a problem? It's the same for every normal player.
And if there will be too less country currency in some months, congress can print some new DEM.
It's a good thing, that working as a manager wont bring much money anymore.
Back to V1! \o/
Moar løning for me pls!
"where people who pay workers will be able to make money."
Only if they find buyers before the price for their goods drops below the production cost. And it is to be expected that it eventually fall down to 0.01 - 0.05. I can't see big profits there.
Also, to think that the economy will reach a state like in V1 again is .. optimistic.
"Everything will be cheaper, so everyone will need less money."
That's not entirely correct since the prices for creating new factories won't drop equally. So it takes way more time to safe the required money. This is kind of a disadvantage especially for players with a lower level.
But less new companys is a good thing too, since it slows down the huge overproduction we have right now. And maybe some people (especially the younger ones) will start buying stuff on the market again, instead of producing it by themselves.
This is NOT a disadvantage for younger players, since playing this game for a long time and saving money needs reward and will get it in that system! Back in the future, young players didn't even get those crappy companys for free at the start. This was a good thing, because having a company should be something special for working economy.
I tend to disagree. Especially Q6 weapons WILL stay at quite high prices, since the total number of these created is limited, thanks to the worker maximum. Due to this limit, (weapon) raw material prices will fall even lower, I estimate at least to the point where Q4&Q5 weapons will be able to be produced (and sold) at a profit.
Mind you, this estimate is for a 'real' economy like say the eUS, where products were bought by real players. Obviously, 90+% of the eGerman weapons were produced for, and bought by the bot. If the bot stays turned off (which I hope), the 25% VAT has to be reevaluated.
All Prices will go down. even the Q6.
Soon the Raw prices will be down to 0.01 like the last time the bot was off.
Thx to Overproduction the weapon/food prices will go down too and so will the wages. So even if there is only a limited Production of q6 the prices will go down, since u won't have people who can afford too high prices.
We don't have overproduction because of the bot, Admins introduced the bot because of overproduction.
Why should i keep going producing with manager work if i can't sell it for a high enough price (for example if wrm are down at 0.01)? The food for working is more expensive than the money i get for selling the product!
I think, many people wont produce as much as they do now. Next point is, that not as many new companys will be build, cause you can't get money as fast as now.
Overproduction might not be only because of the bot, but it causes a part of it.
If Raw Materials hit 0.01, you still earn 1,75 currency in a q4 company with no bonus. 10 Wellness are required, so you have a budget of 0,35 currency for each quality of food you buy. And food should be much cheaper at that point (because its price is affected by the FRM price). So, yes, its still profitable to WaM, even if you do not make as much money as before.
It's of course nice that less companies will be built, but that's not the root of the problem. Even if the bot never existed, there would still be a huge overproduction - caused by WaM (remember, the bot was implemented as a short-time fix for this in the first place).
WaM on the other hand cannot be removed .. it would have the same effect like cutting off Helmut Schmidt from his cigarettes.😁
If the price on the market and price for having ppl worket is going down... What about the price for a new company ex. saltpetermine. And the price for training is too high..
The markets seem to be nervous.
But just trust in the power of the markets.
Otherwise the markets will pay back.
The markets are good.
The markets will raise.
The way to heaven leads only over the markets.
Marketing markets are marketing.
Praise the markets.
@Otis84: Der Markt kann auch Krebsaids heilen!
Mind you, this estimate is for a 'real' economy like say the eUS, where products were bought by real players. Obviously, 90+% of the eGerman weapons were produced for, and bought by the bot. If the bot stays turned off (which I hope), the 25% VAT has to be reevaluated.
thats the problem...citizen like me was going to the us-market, buying their goods and resell it in germany...now, i can´t do that, us-market is also down.
@Edelmann: Mindenstens!!1 Und das rückwirkend!