Failure of the Greek-Argentinian-Croatian master plan
Nalaja
This is mostly my personal account about my diplomatic activity of the last two weeks, since Hungary joined the Pacifica alliance
At the time of our entry, the members of the alliance were the USA, Russia, Finland, Sweden, Latvia, Columbia, and - joined a few days prior to us - Greece. We entered simultaneously with Poland, thus the alliance had ten member states.
After a couple of days, the Greek MoFA mailed me that I'm about to be invited to a circular. At that time, he also asked, if something sounds wrong to me, first tell it to him and I shall be very diplomatic. I was really quite surprised to see among the recipents (besides myself and the Greek MoFA) some Greek 'terrorists', Prophet009 (MoFA of Poland), Zdlemmy from Croatia, the American Wild Owl (also the SG of Pacifica), two Turks and Vyc ARG from Argentina. And they talked matter of factly (OK, not all, just the Greeks, the Turcs, Zdlemmy and Vyc) about
(1) how to make cooperation between the Pacifica and the Adriatica, and
(2) how to get Turkey into the Pacifica together with Argentina and Brazil (these latter two were 'obvious', it was widely discussed they are about to join).
Before progressing in the story, let's see, who was NOT invite😛
the Presidents of Poland, the USA, Greece, nobody from the other Pacifica members, nobody from Brazil.
I shall be 'very diplomatic', OK, so I call aside the Greek MoFA and later also Wild Own, telling it does not work for us. I especially asked my Greek friend to forward this info to his fellow Greeks. I agreed Prophet009 quickly (say a few lines in chat 🙂
) that this course cannot be followed. No effect, the daydreaming was still on. So, I started to PM the 'Gama Greeks' there. Their answers were fully friendly, correct and honest: they were supposing we are aready to fight against Romania and Serbia. But maybe we can be convinced, if 'they' (oh, who are 'they'? I know only one society I'm owe loyalty to: the Pacifica members) give some time? Meanwhile the talk was already going about who to MPP Croatia and Turkey with. And anybody who does not agree this, tell it openly, 'we are among friends'.
Mail again to Greeks. Who are our friends? Croatia, Turkey, indeed? Not to me of course. Meanwhile Wild Owl proposed the entry of Argentina and Brazil to the alliance - without their MPP to Hungary, which was my obvious condition. We make this quickly with Brazil. Argentina rather vote about an MPP with Romania (while their actual one was only 5 days old). The Brazil entry is voted unanimously. Hungary and Russia voted no to Argentia while the Polish leader slept over the end of the voting (it was in the middle of the night, no importance, the outcome would have been positive even it he voted by no).
Then the sh*t hits the fan in Pacifica. The Polish president had a long talk to Wild Owl who resigned and proposed the Polish MoFA Prophet009 as alliance leader. I talked with our Russian friends, agreeing on everything. There was quite an upset in the alliance circular. Prophet009 wrote, after his election he is about to follow a rule he shall propose any new number ingame if only ALL members expressed their approval beforehand. All members agreed but Greece: they asked about Turkey. Quite a surprise for many members.
So I was waiting the end of the SG voting. Diplomatic or not, this situation cannot be lost so far, I told on the circular to Croatia, Turkey and the others: this thing does not working for us, and if these pieces of info were not passed to them: now I'm saying NO.
(Here I shall tell that I must highly respect the 'Gama Greeks' in that channel. Even the master plan failed, they were saying thanks for the talks, expressing they had no bad feeling as it is a game and a good one. Awesome players, and it worth to participate in that talks because of knowing them. Alas, another advice to anyone: thou shalt never underestimate the diplomatic skills of the Greeks. They are simply the best. I enjoyed every moment of the debate.)
More or less this is the situation in system level Thursday afternoon European time. Argentina has voted their leave from Pacifica, Greece and Brazil are stayed. Greece urged MPP with Russia, however the Russian MPP proposal seems to be partly opposed in Greece.
And what would be the story, if...? - A question not favoured by the historians of course. However now, we can make a guess. Without the entry of Poland and Hungary to Pacifica two weeks ago, the alliance could have became so far a Greek-Argentinian-Turk one, cooperating with Croatia, still containing some old members who could live with this. What did really happen, is much more better for Hungary, at least in my view.
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Fhérló agya vissza a 16 k aranyat!
Azt hiszem megbánta már megbánta ezt Darth Nalaja...
Happy to have conducted talks with you Nalaja.
The article is not reflecting our intentions nor the whole truth but who cares you do your thing we do ours 🙂
"The article is not reflecting our intentions nor the whole truth"
as I've seen, you've been writing this all day under articles about this case 🙂
I guess no one gets your intentions then. You should try working on this for better results next time
My friend i did not want to insult Nalaja. There was definitely some misconduct in the information he and i had from the very begging, i dont doubt entirely what he says. But then again he like me should now focus on achieving what his goal might be. Nothing wrong about it and i honestly enjoyed discussing with him these days.
I didn't mean it as insult either. But I'm irremediably old-fashioned and I still believe that alliance members should talk 100% honestly with each other. Because that way, there are no such misconducts or misunderstandings that you mentioned
Galzra42 please trust me: N4zGuL (also F@nis etc) were talking and playing throughout the whole thing without real second thinking. They supposed indeed we are about to be friends to Croatia etc. and never acted like they don't want this.
a vojszofhungári orgal izu van?
🙂
You and Poland wanted Pacifica to be more close to Serbia and Asteria. Greece, Argentina and Brazil wanted it to be more close to Turkey and Adriatica.
You all entered in Pacifica with different visions about what Pacifica's goals are and it was supposed to collapse.
Now everybody goes their own way. You go where you want, they go where they want.
And the irony is that Pacifica is nothing without these 'members' that joined recently and want it to move to one side of the alliances or another.
The thing is, Pacifica was mostly friendly towards Asteria. We have shared MPP's with them for literal years. At the same time, Adriatica pretty much consistend of enemies of Pacifica, give or take a few. It never perhaps came through your mind, but Pacifica member states actually have an opinion too.
That is, widely, to be friendly with Asteria.
Please stop saying Argentina, when it's blatantly obvious that VyC, Pricket, Sex on Fire, and Astolfex want to be BFF with you and Turkey.
They don't have legitimacy even in their own country, and even less on the internatinal stage.
You're right. When you'll do something to settle things?!
I am an evil Serb, I will not do anything 🙂
Why is that a problem?
You ain't got legitimacy in your country either, you just s*ck*d d1*ks to become important on internet.
Also, you cover for thieves, which makes you even worse sc*mb*g.
Oh well.
Internal Serbian politics spilling over to the international stage.
One minor difference is: While Serbia has dictatorship in place, it also has an elected CP with 50% of the votes.
So I'd say it's a somewhat minor difference in legitimacy. If you guys have legitimacy issues, alrigthy I'll take over the dictatorship, not a problem. Still wouldn't change anything.
It's really easy way to blame Serbian or whatever plans in own fails. Those players thought that they could decide without approve of the rest alliance members and now got problems.
Respect to Hungarian CP for adequate diplomacy
no comment needed o7
This only is the proof that Hungary was planted by Serbia in the alliance. But why you are so frustrated? You thought Greece Brazil and Argentina would remain there while you prevent Turkey and Adriatica coordinating with Pacifica? I am sorry dude you have failed 😛
''hurr durr evil Serbs''
😁 oh, oh. but there are still 8 other members of Pacifica. Seems they have choose their own way. Pacifica way.
Seriously it's ridiculous to see Serbia everywhere. Can't you just accept that we acted according to our own best interest, as any self-respecting sovereign nation would do?
no comment needed o7
interesting information 🙂
http://tinyurl.com/nnbb4k9
🙂 gj Greece
Nice one
Miau
Thx
V for Hungary!
It seems like things worked out the best for all involved.
SerHun forever o7
Hah, nice joke!
Joke? Few months ago when Serbia was erased by CRO-ALB, Hungary (with SLO-RO) put NE on Cryatia without thinking..and help Serbia out. So for me and whole Serbia..Hungary is one of our closest allies..so many times we helped each other..brotherhood is beyond alliances. And SerHun is true brotherhood. o7
SerHun o7
(don't mind my avatar, just a joke on ur trolls)
Well, 1-1 times, there is a little help, but you forgot those moments, when rly need help, and we just got (how that nigga says?) YOU ARE F*ck up. 🙂
Maybe eHu help eSer always when they rly need, but is it true for the reverse acts? 🙂
It is.
Then i didn't feel the same. 🙁
Few months ago when Serbia was erased by CRO-ALB, RO made the strategy and reacted with zero delay, in order to help Serbia. Hungary only ruined everything just to destroy ro efforts and make ro looks bad. and you ended up with no congres if i remember corectly.. so yeah. 🙂
SerRO is also brotherhood..never said different bro 🙂
You Bunkerblokes have prevented the re-unification of EDEN once again. Quite a shame.
Some interesting reading here.
Quite a telling we got here.
I would have called this article The success of the Serbian-Hungarian-Romanian master plan
The best description of the meaning of erep life I’ve ever rea😛 a handful of blokes exchanging private messages about evil master plans while the rest is just waiting for that daily true patriot battle to finally start.
Well your "farming" plan also failed I guess 🙁