Examining the truth of PEACE lies [WGC]
Alias Vision
On the 20th of May, a PEACE delegation opened dialogue with the Canadian Congress in the hopes of seeing Canada join the alliance as a member state. Citizens will recall that at that moment ATLANTIS had collapsed and the balance of power appeared to have shifted decidedly towards the PEACE forces.
There was, it must be said, a fair amount of goodwill towards PEACE at this stage and Congress was fairly evenly split between those supporting a jump to our traditional enemies, those in favour of giving ATLANTIS a second chance and those undecided. As we now know, Congress ended up refusing these overtures in no small part because of the weight of public opinion. Although Congress was divided, the population rather loudly proclaimed their displeasure in joining PEACE.
The snub appears in large part to be the justification for present military action against North America.
In the course of the dialogue between the PEACE ambassador and Canada, a few 'truths' emmerged. Today we look at how those truths stack up in the context of what is happening today.
-Statement 1-
On the 20th of May, following a question by Alias Vision on the stance of PEACE towards neutral nations, the response was the following:
"PEACE respects the neutrality of nations, neutrality is a choice that many nations make, and we believe that this option should not be withheld from anyone."
What we see today?
Canada was effectively a neutral nation as was the United States following the collapse of ATLANTIS and the failed FORTIS. The failure of FORTIS can be attributed directly to PEACE agents in the United Kingdom, having swayed their government and convinced them to switch sides. So in fact PEACE has no respect for neutrality, not when contrasted with opportunism.
-Statement 2-
Congressman Leps Dissim asked about world domination and infighting in the PEACE coalition. The reply was:
"We do not ever plan world domination, and our alliance most likely won’t ever fall apart."
What we see today?
World domination can be interpreted many different ways. By attacking North America the PEACE alliance has the opportunity to dominate the world, if not geographically, in terms of natural ressources. If they are successful in destroying the remaining non-PEACE forces aligned against them in North America, they will have complete control over all high oil and diamond regions. It would only be a single step from there to then move to control all high iron regions. De facto, PEACE would dominate the world and for a very long time if the second part of the above statement is true.
-Statement 3-
"The PEACE global community is a Community based on the defense of its allies. PEACE is built to defend it's allies best interests and general well being. PEACE is built on the foundation of military and economic cooperation, as well as a general friendship."
What we see today?
Canada and the United States were not directly threatening any other nation. As a matter of fact Canada, until mere days before the invasion, had been assiduously working in an attempt to secure peace with France. It was thought the negotiations were in good faith but the wheels were already in motion at that time to open the Nova Scotian front. The apparent French openness was a sham to appease the Canadian government while the final touches were implemented on their side.
-Statement 4-
"If you do not join, I say a fond farewell, and we see what happens from there. If you go neutral, we treat you as a neutral nation. if you go to an enemy alliance, we treat you as an enemy."
What we see today?
The gears of war shifted as far back as May 20th. By dissolving ATLANTIS and with FORTIS not being officially ratified, Canada was in fact neutral. PEACE can clearly be seen reneging was they claim was a strong belief that nations can choose neutrality.
Three nation were confirmed as having been approached by PEACE for inclusion; the US, UK and Canada. The UK ended up accepting the offer and we see where they stand today. The US and Canada refused and the evidence speaks for itself.
-Statement 5-
On May 21st Congressman Dabman asked the ambassador about reputation and the feelings of PEACE towards the country.
"PEACE doesn’t have any grudge or evil feeling towards Canada, and is willing to let bygones be bygones."
What we see today?
The media is full of examples of justifications for the aggressive PEACE expansion in Canadian and American territory. Clearly PEACE holds grudges and shapes its international policy on settling of scores, whether real or imagined.
And the final statement of the PEACE delegate...
-Statement 6-
"I assure you Canada is 100% safe from TO."
What we see today?
Repeatedly PEACE has stated that they do not perform political takeover attempts as they only have an anti-takeover squad. The truth however is much darker. The world landscape is littered with victims of political takeovers, the majority at the hands of PEACE or PEACE friendly nations. With this global war, Canada finds itself in a very vulnerable position. We should know very soon if PEACE is as good as it's word and it does not attempt another political takeover come the 25th of July.
Global war.
Does the world really want overlords such as PEACE deciding their fates arbitrarily? Does the world not see that the Hungarian and Indonesian war machine is a capricious beast, a mailed fist in a velvet glove? When principle comes up against opportunity, PEACE has chosen opportunity every time.
Short of the two superpowers finding themselves at odds with each other, the fate of the rest of the world rests in its ability to coalesce and work united. Citizens of the New World, stiffen the spines of your governments and force them to stand up and be counted. The future generations who will be free to make their own choices will thank you!
*The above was an article from a Member Paper of the Writers' Guild of Canada*
Comments
PEACE is a fart that only smells good in eHungary.
I love it. Voted.
"Canada and the United States were not directly threatening any other nation."
Just last month, USA tried to break Belgium away from the Netherlands, to use it as a puppet state.
Not even 20 days ago, USA tried a PTO in France.
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clawy, maybe the US was involved in a PTO, but how the heck is invading them gonna solve that issue? ;P
And don't try and play high and mighty, Hungary has tried to disrupt Canadian politicts on several occasions. Recently there Batyeks little stunt in congress, which pretty much let us know we where about to be invaded, and then there's also the CLP incident when the Hungarian silent bob attempted a PTO of the little party. Just because your attempts have failed doesn't mean Hungary hasn't tried 😉
Sorry to inform you, but canada wasn't and is not neutral...
"FORTIS not being officially ratified" lol
So we wait until you ok to go so we can see you as enemies?
You think world domination is conquering you and USA...
what an article! You should try to get someone else to write propaganda for you, this is weak stuff.
Well it is strong enough for you to attempt a weak dismissal. 😉
@ Nosyt: he just pointed out the lack of partiality of the article, which is full of general assertions without any links or concrete proofs.
PEACE has clearly got contradictions, but don't try to persuade yourself you are victims with that kind of article...
As a french citizen I recognize there are some dark points in PEACE's policy, but some of the "facts" and "proofs" described in this article are crap.
That being said, see you on the battlefield, and good luck!
From what I have heard so far, it seems almost like the members of PEACE are equal to or greater evil's then the Nazi's or somthing.
mechelle: yes, and we eat children...
@mechelle: delete that crap comment. Don't even dare to compare anybody or anything in a game to any people who killed millions.
@Nosyt: i never said Hungary didn't do anything. We played this game just as others do. I am just sick of the "good guys, bad guys" propaganda. If Canada is so inocent, how the hell does France have 7 active MPPs against you? Take an example from you're leaders, who instead of comming up with excuses, used some nice tactics which stopped PEACE advencement.
I believe you forgot to mention some statements:
1 - The war between France and Canada was declared by Canada as part of the French Toast operation. After the failure of the French Toast operation Canada attacked France at least twice, without any apparent objective.
My opinion - France has is own reasons not to be happy with Canada behaviour in the recent past.
2 - eUSA attacked eRussia, using the open war they had with ePortugal to save gold, at the same time they were negotiating with ePortugal an agreement to finalise that war. The negotiation ended because eUSA wanted to save gold in the declaration of war to eRussia.
My opinion - Shamefull ethic negotiation behaviour from the eUSA.
3 - Since the end of Atlantis eUSA army has been involved in conflicts with PEACE in Central Europe so o can't see how they may qualify as neutral (I do not comment about eCanada since I do not have the facts)
My opinion - If Atlantis was not united from a political perspective they were united and very active in the field of battle (and PTO's). I do not oppose their actions, they made sense, but please explain me again the neutral part.
Fortis never declared any kind of war on PEACe. IFrom what I saw in the Canadian congress we where still pretty much free to ally with whatever country we wanted; and one country in paticular we where trying to make ammends with was France. Heck we where even ready to pay for all the damage we had done. That's a an action we weren't allowed to take as an ATLANTIS member, but with Fortis we where much more free. (I myself was very pleased when we left Atlantis)
I think the point of this whole article is that if Peace doesn't live up to their statements and resolutions they should change them; otherwise it's just propaganda.
@Nosyt: want to bet that if you push back France and Russia, attacks will be lunched on their territories?
Actually Im PP of the CSD, and my party just wants our provinces back. After that well pursue some kind of peace, but not an offensive.
We will live and we will see 🙂
Great article. Thanks for the summary.
Seems like some of the PEACE apologists want to claim some conflict from last year as justification for their recent aggression, notwithstanding that borders were long secured on both sides and Canadians were trying to reach a peaceful permanent settlement to the resolved conflict. Whatever.
@clawy: In some hypothetical case that didn't involve Hungary pulling France and Russia's strings, a counteroffensive might be justified, but the Canadian people will not support a strategy of aggression or long-term occupation.
@Bassett: the TO try in France was 17 days ago. It isn't nearly last year.
Congrats Peace! if you tricked eCanada. e-canadians should be little babies if they ate Peace's words.
Congratulations again Peace! and eCanada and eUSA should think Peace is their friend.
Congrats eUsa and eCanada for exiting Atlantis!
🙂 responding to propaganda with.... better propaganda.
"the TO try in France was 17 days ago. It isn't nearly last year."
Yep. It seems to be easily forgotten...
And since operation French Toast (which is not a year old) canada attacked france during peace negotiations.
"Heck we where even ready to pay for all the damage we had done"
We may have been misinformed but this is not what I heard.
I must be clear: I am against any unwanted long term occupation of Canadian territories (including Quebec).
And I think some of the arguments used by PEACE to justify these attacks are invalid... but some are not 😉
Great article Alias. To be fair to those commenting, both alliances have been in the wrong at different times, but eCanada was trying to make up for some of its past mistakes. PEACE is obviously bent on world domination, but so was ATLANTIS for awhile. But PEACE is attacking like RL USA under GWB, using its superior army to enforce its will upon the eworld out of fear that ATLANTIS would be rebuild and again threaten their supremcy. The goal of PEACE is to weaken the attack capabilities of the eUSA and capture strategic resource regions in order to ensure their dominace, since a complete TO of eCan. & eUS is impossible.
Gwalchmei-I was in congress, and there was a mutual agreement to pay for infastructure that had been broken. I think the price we were about to decide on was about 300 gold.
And we attacked during peace negotiations?! I only started the game after operation French-Toast; that could explain why some people where so upset...
We will make you leave Canada.
@Nosyt:
I don't speak well english, so I may express myself badly.
As far as I know, by following the evolution of negotiations through the different forums and hearing reports of politics (those are not 1st hand informations, thats why I say we may have been misinformed), Canada and France never found any satisfying agreement regarding a compensation for broken infrastructures.
Official version was Canada always refused or made crappy propositions.
I judge no one, considering what you said, I don't know what to think.
About the attacks I speak of: I wont' be very accurate, but I remember a candian ambassador once came an d proposed peace negociations; and our leaders accepted to discuss. Then Canada attacked france while negotiations were still in progress (not 1st hand information...). Then our politics broke negotiations, as you can imagine.
This is how some facts have been perceived by many french people I guess; nothing is really clear and versions change depending on which side we are, and this, i think, led to the tensions we are now facing between franch and canadian people.
If you add operation French Toast and the "problem" of Quebec, it becomes even harder to solve!
We clearly had a lot of misunderstandings since French Toast...
How is Quebec a problem?
I lol'ed to this. Clearly you all have Alzheimer and forgot everything you did in the past when were still part of Atlantis...
Im not saying we are perfect but stop acting as victims. You brought this upon yourselves...
Ahhh the sounds of Frenchman whining, even with two of the largest empires at your back, you suck. I kind of love the idiocy.
@ Alias Vision: Quebec in itself is not a problem 🙂
What is a problem is that it's now part of France; France wants to keep it and Canada won't let us. Some people in Quebec opened dialogue with France in order to make things go smoother, some reject france, and I can understand them.
The conquest of Quebec, more than any other canadian region, will bring problems between france and Canada i think.
@Damon Roth: Your comment, in addition of being insulting, is pointless. Actually I see none of us whining, nowhere, and I personally have no reason to.
You are not even constructive. Maybe the idiocy is not where you think.
Great Article Alias! Great to see the WGC is still there, showing the truth of things to the eCanadian Citizens!
"Responding to propoganda with better propoganda"
My sentiments exactly, and i'm Canadian 😃
As i see it, this wonderful "life simulator" that we are all playing (its a game people) gives us the perfect opportunity to see how far one can push the borders of conquest without actually hurting anybody.
Remember, unlike real wars, nobody dies, or loses their loved ones or limbs. The most that happens here is power is shifted from one party to another.
What Alias Vision writes is (to me) propoganda, but it serves a necessary purpose: To inspire (or incite) our eCanadian citizens to fight. If not, all people would have to do is log off and get back to living in the real world 🙂
This game is a wonderful social experiment, an insight into the minds of so many, and i hope everybody is having as fun watching it unfold as i.
P.S. To all the adolecents who are going to hate me for this, i concede to all your points. You are, of course, far more aware of the matter than I and are, therefore, right 🙂
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It's a very inclusive and ancient group within eCanada 😛
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