eSocialism?
Comrade_Callum
Theoretically eSocialism could exist in its true form?
The government could nationalise all companies and pay a flat rate for wages(eg 1 gold for Skill 1, 2 gold for skill 2 etc). However in reality would this really benefit a country?
It is likey higher level players who understand the game would leave the country, higher leveled players tend to have a greater urge to make money and wish to own companies to further this goal [citation needed].
However with a flat wage rate the economy would be encredibly stable, fluxuations would not occur naturally and a outside force would have to invest alot of time and effort to change this.
Of course how to keep companies nationalised? What would prevent private companies sprining up whenever a player gets his first 20 gold? Of course the answer is simple, the private company would have to give higher wages than the flat rate to attract workers and then sell products at a lower rate. Assuming the nationalised companies are not trying to make a profit the private company will slowly die, however a significant number of players could attack a eSocialist country in this way and with the right backing could destroy a countries economy?
Stable or Stagnant? Its really a matter of opinion 😉
Assuming the economy was nationalised there will obviously be the problem of corruption(sigh). A countries preisdent can manipulate their country in such a way that a tidy trickle of money falls into their account. Even worse asuming the entire congress could see that they could make money from this egoistic ideas could take over the entire political system.
The answer to this is not currently available in eRepublik, if citizens of a entire country were able to vote on matters which are currently dealt with in congrees then if corruption was to emerge the citizens of a country would be able to strike down their leaders quickly and appoint a new more intelligent and kind leader.
As we have seen in real life the leaders of many socialist countries take advantage of their situation and build huge palaces to live in while the average man lives in poor conditions however if citizens in eRepublik were to be able directly vote on issues then this problem would be solved.
Of course the problem of many citizens leaving will be a huge problem. The solution to this? Communists, Socialist, Anarchists from across the eWorld would repopulate the country to prove to the world that socialism can work. I have no idea of the number of leftwingers in the eWorld, i hope it numbers over 10,000 but it may be less than 1,000. Who can tell. And of course natural human instincts that we are currently burdened with may drive away even these comrades, the urge to grow and become better than those around you is very strong and many who's hearts are not truly set upon equality may fall away.
The stigma surrounding socialism is that it crushes public opinion. This is a lie! In RL we have seen many AUTHORITARIAN socialist societies (like China of the USSR). Socialism does not need to be like this, it can be very liberal with every person being capable of expressing his/her views. Interpretation of Marx's theories may allow us to see that the Authoritarian stage is simply a stage and after this stage a period of self determination will emerge which has not been seen in our modern day democracies.
Also eSocialism would benefit the country, with the existance of non profit companies it is clear that these companies will infact be making a profit and this money would be directly invested into the country. With the power of the entire economy a country could advance very quickly allowing many Q5 hospitals and defence systems to be established. Naturally taxes would no longer exist. Also a countries military might would be encredibly powerful as the entire countries economy would be behind it allowing the country to be secure and have a chance to expand socialism beyond its borders?
This idea is entirely theoretical and is just a idea, admin would have to make several changes to the current eRepublik system before it could happen. Any comments/suggestions/corrections would be appreciated 😃
And also thankyou to anyone who reads this article, may your mind be liberated and the truth finally be revealed to you
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...citation needed?
Did you copy some of this from a wiki?
on a second note, what about me, the user who says no to socalism? Am I to be controlled to stop me like you say in the authoritarian stage? What about after the "stage" ends and I still want to run my own buisness?
Logically, you would have to refuse me and so the authoritarian stage would still be in place -
socalism is a infringment on the rights of liberty
vote comrade 😉
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Comrade learn about eSocialism and eCommunism 😉
Callum, you'd better use usual html "img src" tag. Visual editor sucks.
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to nationalize 100% the country is something imposibble.eSocialism needed to be less aggrasive that RL socialism and only than it can work.
Socialism is a lie, so a small group of people can control a large number of people easier - read Animal Farm by George Orwell for a humorous look at this RL tragedy.
Bring us Socialism!
Socialism sux in all ways!!!
yea, well, your MOM is an infringment on the rights of liberty!!!!!111one
in true socialism, the citizens share the country's properties in equal extent. but how can you order a company owner to share his income?
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Socialism is a lie, so a small group of people can control a large number of people easier - read Animal Farm by George Orwell for a humorous look at this RL tragedy.
My point is real socialism is different from Authoritarian socialism. We have yet to see real socialism
>Callum, you'd better use usual html "img src" tag. Visual editor sucks.
Thanks for the tip 🙂
>Comrade learn about eSocialism and eCommunism 😉
From what ive seen its fail 🙁
>in true socialism, the citizens share the country's properties in equal extent. but how can you order a company owner to share his income?
If the state owns all the companies and the state distributes the profits among the citizens assuming there are profits
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It's an infringement of freedom to prevent people from owning things they didn't produce, owning the labour of others, earning money from having money. Right.
communism and communists out of eRepublik!
i'm willing to try and support a party that aims for socialism.
@ Zimmah:
*ahem*
in fact, we should just PTO a small country with a lot of Socialists, and then make that country strong, and prove the eWorld that socialism does work.
the econimic module will help us with it. so now would be a good time
>communism and communists out of eRepublik!
we'd rather stay 😛
Go to Czech republic!!!!!! for commie fun times 😃
Do you honestly think people in Euk who are hopefully mostly "British" in RL, would want socialism (pretty much a sissy word for Communism), something we have been fighting against since it began, and is still seen as an evil in this country, and I can tell you that is true because I for one am British, also anybody with a brain cell could see that the idea of flat rate wages would ruin the game, making it boring and tedious, also everyone would leave. It would be the biggest catastrophe ever to occur in the Erepublik world. People would just leave, me for one. and "The stigma surrounding socialism is that it crushes public opinion. This is a lie! In RL we have seen many AUTHORITARIAN socialist societies (like China of the USSR)".
YOU USE USSR AS AN EXAMPLE OF COMMUNISM BEING A GOOD THING.
Your kidding right?
The oppresive regime of the USSR which caused the failure of the country, along with the deaths of millions, through starvation, and wars (riots as well), along with the widespread corruption which is inevitable in a communist state.
This would kill eUK but I'm not worried because it's never going to happen, because most people have a degree of common sense and I can assure you "MOST" of this country would agree with me.
People dont want COMMUNISM or SOCIALISM... SO leave us alone with your oppresive regime ideas. This is a FREE COUNTRY and we are a DEMOCRACY and you my friend, oppose everything that this country stands for.
I spit on your article with disgust.
Labour were socialist so
FUCK YOU
Its also funny because China is a superpower, its socialist
Britain is capitalist and is in decline
Capitalism and communism have one thing in common. It's called a human nature. And as such, they both have some disadvantages some of which you mentioned.
Because of the stigma, as it so happens, the inovations that people will introduce into the game will not be popularized as "look, we got this made, we introduced the socialism into some areas already"... no, it will happen a little more subtle. As it already has.
There already are some elements of socialism in this game. One would say, the two systems coexist here. There already is some non-profit government owned sector. There is organizations that keep the welfare of people. There is weapons that people buy at affordable prices.
There is only one question left. How radical the revolution should be.
Because as things stand now, capitalism is the default. There is about 10 people that own the world, no more than that. They are the ones that dictate things. Then this idea of communism comes in that says workers should dictate instead of those 10 people, and we, we see nothing wrong with that.
It's also you don't use the meaning of democracy in a proper sense, too. Because democracy is a system how things get decided, and is derived from ancient greek word demos kratos, meaning the rule of the people.
So I'll correct you, Jazza. When you say you prefer democracy, you are really saying you prefer representative democracy, where you can vote for one of those 10 in power who'll represent you. But ironicaly the communists want the same thing, they want to vote, too, only they want to vote other people than you.
Alexionus, you do know that George Orwell himself was a Socialist?
Comrade calum... first of all your claim that labour is socialist is crap, and secondly saying "fuck you" doesn't really add anything to your argument sadly. Britain, at its most capitilist was the biggest empire the world has ever seen, China is a superpower because they in the past bred like rabbits so have the biggest work force in the world, where as indigenous British people use a thing called contraception.
Also, on a seperate note, your avatar is a pokemon which immediately makes you a loser.
Jazza you clearly dont understand the internet and dont know anything about British politics so gtfo
>Britain, at its most capitilist was the biggest empire the world has ever seen
And killed more innocents than Nazi Germany
also quit tainting my constructive article with BNP propaganda.
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>get out of that socialistic russian bullshit. Get the hell out with your art.
eh wut?
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"😉o you honestly think people in Euk who are hopefully mostly "British" in RL, would want socialism (pretty much a sissy word for Communism), something we have been fighting against since it began"
You have no idea, do you? Read the 1945 labour party manifesto - which was voted in by a landslide, by the way - and then tell me "we" have been fighting against it since it began. It's more correct to say that the ruling classes have been fighting against socialism since it began. And well done to them, they've managed to screw up pretty much every country that has attempted socialism.
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Well said Bob 🙂
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A very good description of capitalism 😉
Oh my god, no state socialism, please. Do me a favour and keep your HUGE bureaucratic state away from me 😛
"Its also funny because China is a superpower, its socialist
Britain is capitalist and is in decline"
China is by no way socialist (anymore?), at best it would fit in the centre-left category.
And your logic is faulty also, do you want to say that when a country that uses some economic model is atm doing relatively better than another country with another economic model then, only because of that, the first economic model is better and preferable?
Also, just out of curiosity, if you're a socialist, why are you a member of a centre-right party, not ACP or even some centre-left party?
That is because the party is owned by people i know outside eRep
Voted!! You rock CC!