eNL - The last week
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Last week was an, let's say, interesting week in the dutch politics. We've seen a lot of 'interesting' votes, articles and accusations.
It's intriguing how some people defend their party members even while the facts are clearly telling the opposite.
Let's say at first, I'm still fairly neutral, I think and hope. This is not the case for everyone and that isn't a problem for me, but some people could use a little more reflection on their actions and behaviour.
I've seen a lot of instinctive/primair reactions which most people wouldn't have made if they waited a couple of minutes/hours with responding.
Please! Think before you post something!
People seem to forget this game - YES, IT'S A GAME! - is not only about fighting and having certain viewpoints, but it's more about communication and image. You don't need the best plans to win elections/ become an important person, you need to have the best image.
Because image is everything, denigratory comments are normal. Offending and mocking pictures, especially when those are exaggerating are helpfull here.
For example ElGorro's article about Van Spijck with the picture of the Costa Concordia was a good find. Van_Spijck talks about himself being a captain and how can you better illustrate a captain than using a picture of a sinking ship where the captain made the mistake which made the ship sink? Does ElGorro suggest that Van_Spijck is guilty of killing people? Of course not, everyone should understand that this wasn't the purpose of this picture.
You could find similar pictures for making fun of ElGorro. Use a picture of Bokito that was broken free for example.
When replying to such things, remember those pictures are illustrations, satire, exaggeration etc and used to get attention. Don't focus on the insults and namecalling, focus on the facts/issues that could be done better according to the publisher. I see too many replies going on about side issues which makes the comment a mud-throwing-festival.
Please make eNL a better country by:
1. Think before you post
2. Remember it's a game and most of the time not a personal attack!
3. Exaggerating is key in getting attention in articles!
4. Try to stick to the facts in comments and try to prove them, this makes your comments much more reliable!
Comments
I agree in general but have to disagree on the Cpt. Schettino name calling. It was not only not funny (how can you compare a selfish person responsible for the death of so many people as equally funny to a broken loose Bokito..?) it was very, very distasteful. If you have to sink this low to get your own image boosted...
Naming yourself after someone who is in common terms a suicide-terrorist and killing dozens maybe hundreds of innocent people* I find just as 'distasteful'. (*exact numbers RL van Spijck killed are unknown, but its certain that it's more then captain Schettino (32 dead) seeing that at least 28 of his own crew died, and there where reported 'masses of people' on the shore. Estimated range of deaths caused by Van Spijck are from a hundred to a thousand people.
Please help me out here. What are you saying? vS naming himself after Schettino? Is that it? And hundreds to thousands dead by vS? How should I read that?
Please explain before all hell breaks loose on nothing...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_van_Speyk
of zie deze docu... http://www.documentairenet.nl/review/nederland-in-12-moorden-6-de-boot-bom-van-van-speijk/
So you can not identify with a person that was, back then, widely regarded as a hero. In fact he still is.
Would that also mean you abominate Churchill for instance? He is after all responsible for the death of much more people.
Both are examples of people who, at the time, did what was considered best.
I have a very hard time seeing that with Schettino...
Historical figures should be seen (and judged) in perspective of the time and society they lived in. Calling the historical van Spijck a suicide-terrorist who killed dozens or maybe hundreds of innocent people merely says something about your judgement in this time and age which is quite different from the one he lived in. Aside from that, Schettino is commonly seen as a philanderer and a coward so it's hard to believe that ElGorro's comparison was not intended as an insult.
Well, we probably have a different view on this matter and that's no problem, since if we all think the same it would be a boring world 🙂
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Agreed on the article. Two remarks on it though;
First off all; vS overreacted on the article of EG.
Second; I still can't believe people did take it seriously the quoted comment of vS he deleted. I saw the original post and to me it was very obvious it was a sarcastic/ironic message. Something like exaggerating. But as a lot of people take it all way to serious it was wise to delete it. As was proven by the days after 🙁
1 agreed, two... if true but why doesn't he say that then?
That's a question to me also. I wouldn't know. I do know by not responding he made it worse. IMO thats part of the overreaction. Just quitting to react normal makes it worse. From both players involved that is.
Eh...
Voted, good article!
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Aangezien we nog steeds in ENL zijn had ik een Nederlandse versie ook fijn gevonden...
Je hebt gelijk, maar ik had helaas tijdsgebrek 🙁
Yet you complain about Dutch Editions, but you don't even write English editions for us International people, plus you would get a boost of votes if your articles were actually English and Dutch. To be honest you have complained like for weeks now, and for me I find you a good example of a hypocrite.
Dit is Nederland, en als we hier de artikelen al niet meer in het Nederlands schrijven kunnen we onze mooie taal wel net zo goed meteen afschrijven. Wat dat met hypocriet te maken heeft is me een compleet raadsel.
omdat we spelen in een internationale gemeenschap misschien.
Coz we're playing in a international community maybe.