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Just because you're running as PP doesn't mean everyone else who wants to run are PTOers.

Cynical.

Poles, you are Polish?

I'm still fairly new: What is a PTO?

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Julius Caligula fails at trolling. Pass it on.

How cynical of you to criticize my lame troll to distract from the lameness of your educational trolling 😛

oreli? xP

God forbid someone stand against someone else in an election! May Boblo save us all!!

Based ENTIRELY on the strength of this article, I'm joining the BEP.

And voting Benni.

Look he joined the party yesterday. He did not register on the forums or even say so much as a "hello". I thought I made that clear. Before criticising me think how your own party would react under these circumstances you lot of idiots. Yes, even the BEP has protocol to follow!

Stuff you blue go and PTO a diffirent party
we don't PTO parties let us have are party and you can go in yours.

So, apparantly it only takes one fool to stand as a condidate, and another fool to follow him, and you have a successful PTO. Well, If I'd have known earlier, I'd have found a friend and declared myself emperor of eEarth.

The only thing I am guilty of is gong about this in a haphazard fashion for that I am sorry but I deny being a PTOer. I have never attempted a PTO and never will don't accuse me of such all I am attempting to do is take part in the Democratic process. If that is a crime then we are all guilty of it quite simply the solution to the problem is if people don't want to vote for me then don't.

I did ask for access to your party forum on a off site forum but you wouldn't provide with the link. I was told I couldn't have access unless I dropped out of the PP elections. Plus you haven't one in the UK forums so I couldn't join that one either.

Not letting him join the Party forum unless he drops out of the elections is a low move. That's actually really stupid. You don't deny access to a forum just because he is running. Benni, you have my support. You have every right to run. But oh no! It's against the views of one or two people for someone to run against a candidate! God save us! I'm sure every other party would accept him as a candidate. Otherwise, there really isn't any reason to hold votes and it would just be a pass over of power, like a king to the prince. Benni'll have my vote.

Thank you Steve Holinger it was one member who suggested that they would only give the web address if I dropped out it wasn't the party plus it's been sorted now.

First and foremost: You CANNOT just waltz into a party 2 days before PP elections, not request forum access [Which he only requested AFTER I made a big deal about it], Say you stand for democratic processes when you TOTALLY disregard ALL PROTOCOL we have established in the BEP, and THEN try to act innocent in the eyes of the public. You sir are fiendish and clever to convince fools like Steve to fall for your cause. I WILL NOT STAND for such neglection of protocol, lack of common decency, and total disrespect for the BEP as has been affronted by Benni. I cannot come to believe you have just means considering these actions and I will not help you in any way until you relinquish your disrespectful actions. The reason this is a big deal is because there are members of the BEP who choose not to go on the forums (they say they have no time) so I cannot be sure if you are a true PTO'er or not BUT your actions would lead ANYONE to believe you as such (At least, anyone with common sense)

And for the trolls like Touchdown Thomas and the like, please troll elsewhere where the severity of the nature of the material being discussed is substantially less.

I am trying to help this party and all I get is criticism as I see it flying apart with scandals such as the one caused by Benni. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!

Oh, and Blue and Evil, it's fitting that someone with evil in their name would support Benni. Just an interesting connection.

Great, a cynic and a liar... who gets the vote? xP

I'm sure the BEP doesn't want some rage-induced man to run their party either. Also, if only one person said they would give the WEB ADDRESS (not to be confused with access), then obviously you can be considered to have denied Benni the chance.

To Mickale: Despite your pretty outragous remarks and petty insults (like with Blue and Evil), what have you to worry about? If no one knows Benni or his views and opinions, they won't find any reason to vote for him. I'm not saying he isn't worth hearing, but you should have no fear. Just stop making a big deal of it. It'll all be over soon anyways.

I will not stand for injustice. I'm sorry but when idiots say stupid things I must correct them or other idiots will believe what the previous idiots say. And yes, I DID deny him access due to the possibility of a PTO and I am frustrated access was granted to him by another party member (most likely Eno Live). It is most likely I will win the race but that isn't the point. The point is that this man has totally disregarded our party's way of doing things and he's being hailed and rewarded for it. That's just outrageous.

As for Blue and Evil: he had it coming \o/

The only thing I seem to have done wrong is get in the way of your swift and unopposed succession.If people don't vote for me that is progative I can't stop them and I wouldn't deem to attempt it.

You seem to be obsessed with this word PROTOCOL why do you keep reiterating it why? Is that your only point so you have keep to beating me with said word. So I can care less for your pontificating and insinuating that I am some how evil is laughable and as far as I am concerned its a bit dramatic because in the end its a game for christ sake.

He's role playing. Nuffsaid.

I'm voting Benni.

Look. I hate trollers (Dishmcds... this in no way has anything to do with you cough😉. That is why i attacked the various people who commented.

Benni. As I said 1,000 times you CANNOT just join a party and expect to become party president. It's ludicrous. You mean to tell me you spent 2 gold to protect "democratic values"? To be an innocent man who never had intentions of winning? To be the sheep attacked by the Big Bad Wolf Mickale? BULL !@$#. You're discovered PTO attempt won't succeed. Your continuation in this race just further shames you in the eyes of the party. You're not fooling anyone with intelligence.

I repeat "Protocol" because you have violated it on so many levels, it's unimaginable. Nobody can innocently (unless they claim insanity - do you?) run for PP on their first day in the party 2 days before elections without sinister ambitions. Have you a decent manifesto? Have you an understanding of the party? Have you the common decency to request forum access BEFORE running for PP? Have you the respect for our party that is required to even consider running for PP? I, sir, think not. I, sir, believe your massively failed attempt will be the epitome of modern PTO movements. You, sir, shall go down in BEP history as the man who so epically failed to undermine and destroy the BEP. And I, sir, shall vanquish you.

Benni, your "manifesto" will lead to the demise of the party, making it a puppet of the top 5. THAT is not decent.

And let me say this would not be a big deal if it were in a party like TUP where the number of active players is great. It would be impossible to PTO that party, but since the BEP is still small, it puts us at greater risk, and subsequently your actions have been condemned as PTO material.

Mickale; May I please see an official document/article/anything (not written by you) with a list of these "Protocol" rules you say he has violated? If there is no official rulebook, it isn't against the rules. It may seem unorthodox, but nothing (until I've seen said rules list) says it's unlawful or unfair. Unfair is making someone follow a set of rules that don't official exist in a document or article. Of course, everything said in this post will be taken back if you can show me the rules. The OFFICIAL rules, not the ones that are in peoples minds and that seem realistic and normal. I want to see official rules.

Article 3 paragraph 12: "Under no circumstances are people priviledged to run for the office of party president upon the last 5 days of election unless otherwise agreed upon by the various member of the party. To be in violation of this particular section of protocol risks the violater punishment of one of the various forms: ex-communication, public condemning, personal messages demanding explanations, and/or any other various actions decreed appropriate by the various members of the party."

So are these game rules or BEP party policy? Because if I have broken game rules report me ok.I will reiterate my earlier point the only thing I have seemed to have interrupted is your smooth seccession to party president. Yes I do want win but I will conduct myself with some decorum why don't you.

IN THE END ITS ONLY A BLOODY GAME

A link would have been nice, but I'll be sure to check it out. So far, I guess you have fair game there, Mickale. I do apologize for my rude behavior. But in any case, you still shouldn't worried too much. I can understand Benni's wanting to give you at least a little opposition. I would too. Then again, I'd read the rules too, before giving such opposition.

That's all I want to do.

beurockkasy ? Phwah !!! some git don't like a challenge

I don't care how much he cries and whines: the fact that ANYONE would join a functioning party just a few days before PP elections without talking to ANY party members and then running for PP is completely outrageous and reeks of PTO regardless of our rules. I have absolutely no sympathy what-so-ever for Benni Hill or any ludicrous fool who supports him. I may be tough on this stance, but I care for the well-being of this party and the LAST thing we need right now is a PTO by some guy who has no respect for what the BEP was, is, or ever will be.

Crasianos you clearly have no diea what you're talking about. I don't give a damn who runs against me IF THEY ARE HONEST, HARDWORKING PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE PARTY AND MADE CONSIDERABLE CONTRIBUTIONS. Benni is not the kind of person who falls under this category! HE JOINED A FEW DAYS AGO FOR GOD'S SAKE AND BARELY LOOKED AT THE FORUMS.

I hate idiots. Why don't you think about something before you go and make completely unintelligent and idiotic comments? Oh, that'd demand too much of you, my apologies.

I am adamant about this issue and I don't care if I must burn London to the ground if that's what it takes! I WILL NOT BACK DOWN FROM A RIGHTEOUS POSITION.

Oh, and Benni, sending your friends against me in this article only serves to strengthen suspicions of your PTO intentions. Fail.

Id vote for Benni Hill if I were you, I wouldn't vote for this sick bureaucratic cynic who is demanding me to remove my freedom of speech by deleting my comments.

I asked for gold in payment but I got dissed. Free speech is expensive! Hey... if someone has a clear conscience, they wouldn't be so riled up and start calling random people as PTO,

What righteous position? REALLY? Have you lost your trolley? YOU, who DEPRIVE possible members from access is being RIGHTEOUS? Those protocols were probably created a minute after this seeing that you didn't mention any of them in your article nor in your earlier comments. Fail!

You're just an idiot. Seriously. I don't think I've seen someone as clueless about this situation as you and yet you continue to spew forth this filth on my newspaper. Benni Hill is a PTO'er. You have purposefully given my article a negative tinge from the very first comment you made. So please, GTFO and stop trolling. Do something productive for once. 🙂

Mickale, you're hypocrisy is pathetic. I've probably done more productive things than you have seeing that you've been trying so hard to denounce your competition. To be honest, it is disgustingly stupid.

And all you do is insult those who comment with a bit of negative tinge... What trolling? My first comment was a true outright opinion. My second comment about Julius Caligula was trolling for he was trolling you. Shouldn't you be more appreciative?

Well, I guess not. Your excuses are pathetic. Stop insulting people and start thinking for once.

The way I see it, Mickale has the rules on his side. And while some (or most) rules are to be broken, it seems he has the higher position in this. He seems to express his adoration of this party. Think of it this way: He's being protective. Example: Let's say you're a kid, and he's your parent. Some other kid walks up and offers drugs to you (in this case, Benni is the druggy kid (no insults intended, only meant for example)). Mickale, being the protective parent, is going to ward off this kid in order to protect you (or maybe in this case, the whole party). After reading the Party rules, by all means, I can understand Mickale's stress and worries.

I'd like to formally apologize for my earlier comments. Benni, by all means, run during the next elections. Get yourself known a little more. Maybe donate gold to the party or something? By the next elections, you'll have successfully followed the rules and may have a better chance.

Please relax
1st-touchdown_thomas you not even a british citizen
2nd-benni hill carm down i do agree its only a game.
3rd-mickale try not to call people idoits.
I am not happy on how late it was until you joined and ran its a bit odd.

I get a bit upset when people (touchdown_Thomas) spread lies about me on my own newspaper and then others (blue and evil) believe it. I think I have just cause to be upset. What do you mean about your third point? You left the party and eno and I discussed the next course of action, assuming you wouldn't be back..

And also I must thank you steve for your voice of reason. I was thinking about the futurecouraea olfaction and by all means if benni has proven himself an active and performing member if this party by then end of (hopefully) my term, he will be permitted to run as party president. And bamber I meant no offence in any of my comments towards you.

See how 1 persons cleverly planted lies can uproot common decency when they refuse to admit they were misbehaving to post those lies? Manipulate your own citizenry touchdown_Thomas, well have none of that here.

Once again, you criticizing me for voicing my opinions on you but you feel so comfortable in DIRECTLY misrepresenting me. You're sad. I wouldn't see this party suceeding with this kind of party president.

cool story brah.

Get back on your boat to Belgium and leave our affairs alone. Nobody wants to hear you spreading further lies. (Yeah, there's a difference between spreading lies and voicing an opinion - revolutionary isn't it?)

And you would know how? Because all you have said about me are nothing but hearsay and conjecture. You haven't managed to prove I am a PTOer so all you do is insult,insinuate and pontificate nothing of any substance has spewed forth form your mouth all I wanted to do is provide you with a challenge and I achieved my aim.


I am truly sorry for you that you can't accept said fact. Here is a lesson I picked in up life nothing is treasured more then something earned not something given away freely.

Ok pick your choice: A PTOer or an Idiot. Either one will justify your actions. a PTO'er knows what hes doing and tries to take over a party. An idiot is just an idiot with no idea of how things work. I chose the one that was less demeaning to you, but if you want to be a self-proclaimed idiot, by all means be my guest. The choice is yours.

These are the facts:
1 Benni hill joined the BEP very late in the PP elections - running just days before they occurred.
2 Benni Hill did not register nor ask for a link to the forums nor say as much as "hello" to anybody in the party until AFTER I confronted him about being a PTO'er.
3 Benni Hill continued to run for Party President even though all this has been uncovered and has yet to provide a decent explanation for why he did not message anyone until AFTER I accused him.