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Monte is a long time friend of eAustralia, long time allied nation of Nebula and all around good guys.

If they are willing to pay for the MPP, what is the matter, another country to watch our backs is a bonus.

PodgoricaninPG, as a long time friend of yours, a long time friend of eMonte, I would say SORRY for the actions of my countries government, but since I am a traitor and leader of the shadow government, I am afraid anything I do say maybe taken wrongly.

Strange why the current Government takes such decision! If we were under dictatorship JT could solve the issue with one click only without asking all troublemakers and without anonymous votes.

i know who you are !

MPP are not only for damage. They establish a value of trust, allegiance and mutual respect. Hopefully AU doesn't f*** this one up.

Hopefully people might ask for the truth instead of settling for 1 side of a story. And I believe, Wooky, that the value of trust is required first- the MPP is the evidence of it.

Latvia was a MPP I set up to begin building trust of another pro-Asteria alliance called Pacifica. Maybe you have heard of it? 😛

I heard Latvia was called a useless MPP. If that is the case is the MPP with USA, Finland and Russia useless too?

I have asked for truth but none has been offered.

Before I will start yelling at you, ex-MoFA of eMontenegro, why exactly do you need help 🙂 ?

🙂 we have AS we need MPP for that battle .
also in past we have good relationship with eAUS so we want to keep it ...

Somebody is AS-ing you??? Because I don't see any info in Nebula regarding you AS-ing somebody. And why would a member country of a defensive alliance suddenly AS some random nation without actually telling the other members of said alliance. in advance (like it was common during Rusty's leadership)... That doesn't make sense at all , does it 🙂 ?

whats wrong with u ? so we cant attack anyone if we are in nebula ?
so we cant have mpp with our allies ?
so its better to be out of nebula and then sign mpp ? does it ? 🙂

As you have seen from the past, we indeed CAN attack other countries, but it would be both polite and helpful to tell the rest of the alliance, what are you doing, so that we can provide help. Half of the alliance probably doesn't have a clue what you are planning to do, and I'm puzzled too. When Australia ASd UK few months ago, it was something completely different, as we all knew about what is going on. Right now, I don't know anything... and I except Australian Congress to be the same 😃 .

you are in wrong way my friend ...
SOME MPPs like this one dont need anything to explain when you see it you vote YES .
this is more then mpp ....

I'm not talking about MPP at all. I'm just talking about eMontenegro attacking another nation without even telling to the rest of alliance. If you really wanted some help, you would come to the alliance first and things could go much smoothly now. But no.. you are going to randomly accuse Serbian CP from stealing your region, make a TW with Moldova and they fly away to get more chocolate, so that you can satisfy your lust. This is NOT how alliances work!

TL😉R for others: I'm not talking about Australian MPP at all (as I can't comment on their internal Congress issues),, but about general alliance principles.

eAussie... Huh... Good God y'all! What it is good for?

Hot women and sunshine, jealous much? ....

The women sound like some kind of hick/bogan hybrid and it's too damn hot.
ILU though 😉

Hey these women wear the latest in Flannel fashion, the ug-boots are top quality and most of them have teeth, it's paradise 😉

Carl is the only person who has an open invitation to sleep in my tepee when he's in town. 🙂

o.O

Isn't Australia a member of Nebula? And isn't Montenegro a member of Nebula as well?
So why is Australia rejecting the MPP? Oo

PodgoricaninPG, the same thing happened to Israel as well regarding Australian congress. A person gave the money to Australia for MPP with Israel and congress ALMOST voted it down.

i dont know whats happens here but we need to fix our ally 😃

i do not know what is going on with them all together, but what i can gather from reading articles. It seems some are voting no to spite someone else within Australia they do not like. Or perhaps there are some in Australia who wish to destroy it from within

I remember the recent times when MPPs were voted by dictator without a single piece of information for the congress and Rusty was MoFA during this term. Selective memories we have 🙂

+ Rusty gave his full support to a candidate CP launched AS in his term without informing both the cabinet and the congress. But this are some details - they are not important.

Which AS was that J? Please do tell me.

And as MoFA, does that mean I control what the dictator does?

Henry's first term and the AS against Germark. He didn't ask the congress, nor the cabinet even and in the same time of the proposal he pushed "Yes" button. You considered that as not something wrong and you gave him the full support during next elections. Then you were his MoFA, which means you completely agree such kind of acts by dictator.

If you remember clearly I was the most vocal against it, I even did articles and also spoke to him about it, both publicily and privately.

Saying "Rusty gave his full support to a candidate CP launched AS in his term without informing both the cabinet and the congress" sounds like I support that action. Being his MoFA afterwards help trying to ensure it did not happen again. It doesnt not mean I agreed with it, but isn't easier to try and change something or have a say from the inside? If you would remember I was not an Aussie citizen when he proposed the AS, I came back to Australia afterwards

You know well that if you don't hold the buttons you can't ensure anything. We were all surprised by Henry's decision.
I know that you were abroad but you knew everything and you knew that Henry was pressing the buttons because he felt some kind of satisfaction doing it regardless what was the opinion of the cabinet members and congress. You were part of his cabinet and you defended him "well"

I found your comment to gudz as not very appropriate:
"Do you find it hard to type with your mouth full?"
Don't you recognize your position during Henry's term - you stepped for him hard. same as gudz do for his "boss" and for that he believes.

J, I have been receiving pretty lovely worded PMs from some people, so if my comments to them seem harsh, they might have reason.

And say I have to hold the buttons and rubbish like that, your beginning to sound like guag and his mates. I do not want to be involved in politics this year, my articles are more as a citizen, until a CP decides to waste time insulting me and accusing me of some shadow government rubbish, I spent almost all of last year in some form of political role, I want a break from that.

In this case saying "you" doesn't mean "you as a particular guy"
Read it as "You know well that if a man don't hold the buttons he can't ensure how the one with control will vote"

By being in congress/cabinet one can either vote for or against, one can also discuss and talk about the direction a country is going. By being a citizen, one can still comment and highlight things, comment on a government paper, ask questions, PM congress/cabinet.

No matter where the citizen is, you can still ask, explain, debate the course of a country.

Filthy I believe your MPP past the vote. Even when we did not advertise who voted what some times people voted No for whatever reason, however important and meaning for MPPs where past. I cant actually remember the last time one was proposed and it was voted down (other then the Latvia one where our CP said in his paper not to vote for it).

In any country and in any government there will always be someone who might vote NO. But that is the way of life and the way of freedom of choice. But it would be interesting to see if the Monte one which last time I looked was in the favour of No, whether someone was instructed to vote that way (like Latvia)

im sure you are right on this matter, i guess it is just so different in Israel , everyone here agrees on simple things such as excepting a MPP that they do not have to pay for

I know from my experience, we talked about MPPs, then informed the country to send it. With our one during my tenure, I know their was some No votes, but the majority said yes, before we made the final plans on signing.

But I am guessing from the outside that someone is doing things differently. But I am happy we resigned with you, I want to see a return on my investment and ensure we keep going ahead.

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EAustralia has always been the laughing stock of the eWorld and continues down the same path. Pathetic bunch of wankers.

🙁 shameful but true.

"Los trapos sucios se lavan en casa" says a proverb in my country :v

This is starting to sound like a set-up by someone.

Voting had only just started and a supposed ally is stabbing a community over a congress vote where the congressional political stunts are held up by Visa warriors.

You wrong Guag, today the Cabinet takes decision not the congress. For this reason I propose to impeach the Cabinet - no more negative votes from them!

Cannot be J, it says above clearly in the picture that congress can vote.

Since a comment above states that even Nebula internal does not what is going on, I call mockery on this article as a political stunt. The same goes for the congress voting of no's we have had recently all a political stunt from butt-hurt.

Stop lying Guag! We all know that in Democracy only the cabinet and actual CP are able to take decisions. Congress has no word. Please read the comments and educate yourself before writing.

J I am not sure which side of the bed you got out of this morning but the picture above does have this wording http://prntscr.com/9prfld

I sense your reading level has dropped to a great low of Rusty, which I add is just above a rock 😛

Which symbol should I use next time when I speak with sarcasm?

Even when I gave you a hint to read and educate from the comments above.

Mallet symbol if you need one, otherwise 😉 I will get my point across.


As congress has all the say with the help of string pullers 😛