Democracy is optional, apparently.
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by infin
The eAustralian elites have suggested that democracy in our great country should be suspended to prevent a PTO (Party Take Over) of the Country President elections. It has been suggested by people who know better than you and I:
- that a free vote is overrated and that one candidate should be elected in the eAusrepublik forums and everyone be required to vote for that candidate; or
- that the military should be directed who to vote for and that a state of political emergency could be declared by the commanders of the military under an Act of parliament; or
- that the encumbent should just be re-endorsed.
When it comes to the stage that our democratic country no longer honours the principles and liberties upon which the mechanics of the game are founded then I have to draw the line.
To any person suggesting a derivation from the fundamental rule of democratic free elections, and freedom of party activity, I say: YOU ARE A TRAITOR.
To any person suggesting use of the military to ensure a particular voting outcome, I say: YOU ARE A TRAITOR. I will not stand by and let the elites dictate to the voters who should win the election.
Every citizen of eAustralia has an equal say in this. You all get one vote. eAustralia's special clique (which include many unelected back room operators) may think they know best, but patriots know that THE PEOPLE KNOW BEST.
FAIR PLAY - people who do not play within the rules of the game must be punished and that especially applies to all the dirty Indo multis flooding our country, but admin will deal with therm. I would have expected the government if it was seriously concerned about multis to be publishing information on how to search for and report multis but have seen no articles to date.
Fellow Australians: Don't let the government suspend your democractic rights under a ruse of threat. Thank the elites for their genuine concern of our lack of intelligence.
The clearest and most urgent danger to our country at the moment is from the seditious traitors who would see our democracy unraveled. vote for who you choose and let no one intimidate you. That is how the great institution of democracy works.
These are my personal views and not the views of any Party to which I am affiliated.
infin
5 term, Senator for Queensland.
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Although it is a sad day when we have to suspend democracy. Here are the risks.
a) We continue as is, the votes are split between 3 parties and the Indonesian candidate wins. = Australia is completely destroyed and taken over by Indonesia.
b) We fight as one against these cheating PTOers, and one of the Australian candidate ends up taking over = perhaps that candidate would not have won had the Indonesians not attempted their pto attempt.
lol, this mentality is gonna cost us australia 🙂
also, in nations like UK during WW2, civil rights were limited.
I hear what you are saying infin and i agree to some extent.
There is no 'easy' solution in this situation and it is one where we must find a way to work together and unite.
You can bitch and moan until the cows come home but at the end of the day it is better to sacrifice 'democracy' to ensure that Australia stays in Aussie hands....or do you not agree with that?
please no quoting of Ben Franklin(those who would sacrifice freedom for temporary security...blah blah blah) this is a game and within the constructs of the game it is clearly best to sacrifice some liberties to maintain the sovereignty of your nation.
Its easy to see how we're in a way destroying democracy, but when it comes down to us vs the multitudes of indonesian bots, and multi-accounts that our votes are up against, a "tactical adjustment to democracy" should definitely be advised. Maybe one could merely call it encouragement to vote for a certain candidate. No one's forcing you at gunpoint to vote for a certain guy but you'll have to later on accept the consequences of your decision if you don't.
You can write your memoirs about democracy and ethics from the eIndo POW camp.
This is a GAME! Not a college case study in morality. No rules are being broken by asking the population to pre-select a single candidate to oppose a PTO from a country many times our size and military power.
My citizen has twice been in regions conquered by eIndo. I'm rather tired of it and the smirking, mocking trolling from them.
I'm also tired of the cheating multifarmers I've observed taking out eBolivia, eVenezuela, ePeru, eSA, and now making a go after eAustralia.
Anyone who wants to take a RL concept like democracy so far that they are willing to sacrifice a winning position in a GAME for a losing position, that's your choice.
If we get PTO'ed the hundreds of eIndo players living in eAustralia now will be the ones making up the "democracy". Everything everone has fought for since our independence will be for naught.
Democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
As you can see in that definition, the moment those eIndonesians starts voting, democracy is already lost. In continuing democracy after it is loss is ridiculous and will only bring the loss of our country.
I totally disagree with selecting a candidate on the forums - it cannot be enforced, and too many people don't visit the forums anyway.
I hate to say it, but the problem is that we have parties endorsing lulz candidates and candidates who really aren't qualified. This contributes to vote splitting, which is playing right into the hands of the eIndos.
For the safety of the country, I'm forced to agree. You need to realize that the party presidents are not FORCED to do this. They're just advised to.
I would like to point something out right here, right now.
I was the one that asked candidates to endorse XG at the last minute.
I did so, off my OWN back, and not because someone asked me to do so.
We are suffering a Political Take Over, people, and a VERY serious one at that. The more votes we get for the one candidate, the more chance we have to stop the takeover.
For that reason, i asked the PPs to endorse XG (as he is the incumbent president).
They did not have to listen to me - and im certainly not part of the "elites" as you say. (Remember? im NOT part of cabinet anymore! Ive been FIRED! 🙂
So STFU and stop whining. I dont want to see an Indonesian elected as Prime Minister of Australia. Why do you??
I fully back Infin here.
There's an old saying about Principles. If you don't have them, then you have nothing to stand for.
I believe in democracy. Even if we lose the elections, we went down in our belief of Democracy. Without your beliefs you are nothing.
Hmm. I said something contraversial an HOUR ago and I havent been trolled for it yet.
Dycey and CH are getting slack 😛
"I believe in democracy. Even if we lose the elections, we went down in our belief of Democracy. Without your beliefs you are nothing."
Its a GAME!!!!! RL concepts like democracy are not part of the game mechanics. Ignore game mechanics over an RL concept and YOU WILL LOSE THE GAME!!!!!
I facepalmed so hard my nose is bleeding.
If the Indos never stop PTOing does that mean we will never have a democratic election again?
Kill democracy,, shall the Diocracy, and only Diocracy prevail
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants
As a young democratic christian man, i honestly believe that i am the reincarnation of jesus christ himself.
Now that we have that out of the way, i believe we should follow the path that god has put us on.
Who knows what god has planned for us at the end of that pathway, but lets put our faith and trust in him that he would make the right decision for us.
I honestly believe that he has.
Lets follow this path of self discoverey and enlightenment THE GOOD WILL SUCCEED, the eyes of god are upon us all.
I don't know whether to embrace you or beat you.
ALL HAIL DEAR FATHER!!!!
The voting age needs to be raised, that would fix all of this. Why don't the admins do that?
If voting is moved to the forums then this is not death to democracy. It is simply ensureing as best as possible that those who vote are eligable to vote - i.e. Australian Citizens. Last I checked we do not extend the franchise to non-citizens, whomever stamped their visa.
Yes, some legimitate citizens will not vote because the forums are "too hard". But those that do vote are more informed and much much much more likely to be a legimitate citizen.
Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others. Hah where have I heard that before?
I'm not an eAustralian elite and I agreed with the vote the incumbent in again policy, and neither are the larger majority of people who agree that this was the best option.
But none of that matters now woot \o/