Debunking Alfa's BS
Breton Boy
Alright. Lets begin.
Alfa CONSTANTLY talks about how I was somehow responsible for Turkey and that all Goons are the same and work on some kind of hivemind, etc.
For example:
"And it might also of tackled the disingenous claim that Breton Boy doesn't know the eTurkey destroyers (ignoring the fact that the players previous character was one of them) as he seems to talk to them on a frequent basis."
Let us look at some facts that I can back up and you can explore.
1. Go look at my Birthday on eRep. Notice how it is really new?
2. Go look at my Uncle "Gorgo Primus" 's Birthday on eRep. Notice how it isn't 3 years old, which it would have to be in order to be involved in Turkey?
3. Go here. http://forums.somethingawful.com/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=149270 See my join date? WELL after 3 years, which is what it would need to be to be part of Turkey.
Now that we've proven that Alfa has been talking out of his ass on one thing, let us look at another of his claims.
Do all Goons always agree on everything? Does this even need to be answered? Doesn't the fact that we had a freaking CIVIL WAR in China over a disagreement prove this claim is garbage? I'd say so.
Next, the claim that Goons LOVE to PTO. Since it has been established by FP that joining a party and voting out the guys who were using it to completely change it overnight isn't a PTO, we can go from there. I will tell you how Goons found parties if we can help it.
1. We look for a party with no one in it, or with only 2 or 3 people in it.
2. We move there and run.
Done.
If we can't find an empty party we spend the 40 gold and make our own. From there we run in elections. This isn't a PTO because we get involved the the community and often have massive native support in the areas we run. Sure there are lots of people who cry that we're PTOing but I think its clear that the term is meaningless half the time if it just applies to new members, who were born in the country of question, who run in elections after a few weeks and wins.
Now let us disprove that all Goons are the same. Take a look at these fellows:
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Phaedrus_Lidox
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Giray_Garriscus
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Ikarti
These were KEY leaders in adventures past. Notice how none of them are here? That is because they moved on to other things. They currently have no contact with Stalin or I and nothing to do with us here.
Next let as look at the definition of Collective Punishment. You'll like this.
"A penalty imposed on every member of a group without regard to his or her involvement in the group's actions and conduct."
Source: http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/collective-punishment.html
This is what you have all been doing to us since the day we got here. Don't see anything wrong with it? Let us look at how this phenomenon is looked at by the civilized world.
It's a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. Source: http://books.google.co.uk/books?hl=en&lr=&id=MbiedpEFzbYC&oi=fnd&pg=PR11&dq=collective+punishment+crime+against+humanity&ots=9hSxdeREhF&sig=snS-xGMu2vs_ZrWmXo17iz_Hsxk#v=onepage&f=false
You can look it up all over the place if you wish. What is a Crime Against Humanity? It is the worst crime a person can commit according to the Nuremberg Laws and the UN.
So now that I've shown Alfa is a horrible person who lies out of his ass, let us look at who he is.
Brace yourselves... ALFAGREM WAS A GOON! The reason he's so pissy? He was probably permabaned for doing something stupid. Thats my guess.
An ex-Goon with a grudge against anyone who reminds him of the life he once had, that is who and what he is. That is who has taken so much delight in these witch hunts, and why he slanders us at every turn. But he can't quite wipe the mark of Lowtax off himself... he knows that in all likely hood he served in a Goon army somewhere... maybe in the GoonsSquads in EVE or WOW.
But Goons are like a continent in that we have several subcultures with VERY different ideas on what is acceptable behaviour. GoonsSquads will not be making an appearance here; that we can promise you.
Comments
I hope that cleared some things up. Doing it all in comments would have sucked.
Man I smell a s**t storm heading this way and i'm getting outta here.
Thanks for the unproductive comment, I guess...
I'd prefer people talk to me and look thing up, etc.
Cause running away whenever something comes up that may offend someone solves nothing and contributes to even worse things happening in the future.
I am starting a communist movement in Korea.
Join with me and destroy the capitalist monsters that use you as pawns.
Thats cute Red. 🙂
I think the PDNKP798 is as close to a communist party we're gonna have in Korea, and thats only if I get elected.
I don't really see what this has to do with this paper, but I'll wish you good luck in your endeavours here.
After all of this hard work Breton has done, I have read the article while making sure this information is honest and not false. Checking the links and the dates he would have to been around for the accusations he is facing to be true but, there is complete evidence Breton Boy has
provided that makes his statements true.
See what hard work does?
Thanks Aarons; That means allot to me.
I'm always up for answering any question on any subject, and I have never and will never 'dodge' a question or accusation; even if answering it truthfully might bring 'drama'.
Debunking Breton Boy's BS
"3. Go here. http://forums.somethingawful.com/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=149270" target="_blank">http://forums.somethingawful.com/member.[..]49270 See my join date? WELL after 3 years, which is what it would need to be to be part of Turkey."
Except for the fact that we can't go there because you have to be a member of SA to see that.
But before the SA erepublik thread was closed we were able to see all the posts and many of them have led me to believe that YOU are Gorgo Primus.
Here are some choice quotes from Gorgo Primus on the SA thread.
"They are humourless money grubbing morons who made a crappy 'game' where Nationalism is the only real currency. On the other hand, their forums make for awesome trolling grounds. "
"Once the morons in SK give me citizenship"
"There's only room for one batch of crazy trolls in this nation-state."
These are all quotes from Gorgo Primus speaking about eSouth Korea. Gorgo Primus was banned, why was he making those posts indicating he was alive? Because he made a new account. An account named Breton Boy.
"I don't have PMs on SA, but you can PM me on erep! (Breton Boy) "
Another quote from Gorgo Primus taken from the SA thread, which directly shows that you are the same person.
This is all just an elaborate ploy.
Also he would not have need to have been here 3 years ago. Turkey incident happened two years ago.
Hey Abdul. First off, Gorgo and I are VERY close, so when he needs to talk to someone on eRep I'm more then happy to relay things back on forth for him.
Second if you looked at the links you'd see that Gorgo hasn't even been around for 2 years, so you'll still wrong.
Next let us look at those quotes and when they were made... BACK WHEN WE WERE IN FRANCE! Amazing; now would you not say the French were greedy batshit insane Nationalists? They sure were when we were there.
None of those quotes are about SK.
Finnaly I will tell you what the page says about Gorgo Primus.
"
Member Since
Mar 29, 2009
Post Count
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Last Post
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So there you go. You're attempt to debunk me has failed.
Thank you for replying though.
"Once the morons in SK give me citizenship"
"There's only room for one batch of crazy trolls in this nation-state."
These two posts were specifically referencing eSK and he was still posting AS IF he were playing later on in the thread. Obviously we can't see it any more because the thread was locked.
I do not believe that you are separate people.
@ Abdul'Allah Kazim Zyrgazi - how do you expect anyone to prove a negative, if they should somehow need to satisfy your delusions?
Anyone can become a member of SA. We're not judgemental paranoiacs if you have the mettle to stand up and declare your beliefs.
Also, if you're going to sling insults and imprecations, do have a care to define what you think a goon is, and why defining a class for political disenfranchisement and abuse is both moral and just.
Thanks for the support Comrade Torgo.
well breton, since you already told some of us that your "uncle" is actually yourself and even before that, you've talked about the events way back when with surprising clarity, I think it's safe to call BS on you. 😛
Breton, you're going about this the wrong way. When your hand gets caught in the cookie jar, you don't try to convince ppl that wasn't your hand. You should be trying to convince them that there weren't any cookies in the first place, or if you're realy good at disseminating, try to convince that it's not a jar.
Readers will be so entertained by the anecdote that they might just overlook the cookie crumbs trailing from your hand.
E for effort that you put into this article.
Peter, if you bother to read the claims I was refuting and looked at the evidence I presented you'd see that I'm in the right on this one.
Athasnim... you aren't even worth responding too... you hate me for the company I keep and the ones I call family, fine. But at least be honest about the fact that you aren't going to let truth or justice or basic tenets of democracy get in the way of that hate.
Direct quote from Gorgo Primus on the SA eRepublik thread proving he is in fact Breton Boy:
"Here is how it is going to go down:
We wait till Arjay has a hissyfit and leaves SK... cause that is what he said he will do.
Once he is gone I will run for PP. Every Goon in Goonsville will join PNK and vote for me.
We win and I declare ourselves to be the PDNKP798 or the Pretentious Democratic Nationalist Korean Party 798. Thus we will have a party name that fits the trend and 'integrates' us into SK as the same as everyone else. (Current parties are DNP KNP PKN SC987 and the FP one.) Who knows; not only might we piss off the anti-goons, but we'll also make election day even MORE confusing then it already is!"
Link to post:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3236447&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=17#post374973698" target="_blank">http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthr[..]73698
Another quote from Gorgo Primus:
"😉ay 3 of my campaign for PNK President, and I got an interview.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article...oy-1294268/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article...oy[..]1/20
Vote her up."
Link: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3236447&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=17#post375125588" target="_blank">http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthr[..]25588
Now now, Mark, I've explained why things like the look they do numerous times here and on IRC
Come on down and I'll show you all I have.
It is hard to debate someone on a matter such as this in a comments section.
No, that's okay BB. I've heard all of the crap you've tried saying, let me list some examples of the preposterous answers you have given under pressure:
*You and Gorgo Primus are very close/uncle and nephew. Of course that is a joke.
*You answer questions directed at Gorgo Primus for him.
*You constantly talk about your relationship with him.
*At one point you even went to say that the Goons had a system where they swapped usernames on forums as a joke and that it wasn't really you saying these things.
In the end, I don't care any more for you or your posse now than I did in the beginning, you're a terrible troll, and I'm pretty tempted to "PTO" PNK just so you still won't have a party. Now wouldn't that be funny?
Yes, so funny to make jokes that completely disregard the opportunity to bring stability and purpose to the peninsula.
Interesting, because I am led to believe the perfect way to bring stability to this here peninsula is with the emigration of a certain group of people who do nothing but whine and cause conflict throughout the country. I think it would be easiest to say "shut up or ship out" as a general summary of my opinion.
I hope your soundbite mentations progress beyond whatever point you are led to.
Your overall objective will not be achieved Breton.
Having said that, sincere good luck in your election.