Counter Argument against the Kyushu Policy from a citizen's perspective
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by roland_up
Dear readers,
I am roland_up, an eJapan citizen born on the island of Kyushu. Some of you may know me as the General Manager of YUICorp. I am writing this article to explain why I disagree with the foreign policies regarding Kyushu in a citizen’s perspective. I’ve tried to write this out a number of times, however, I have delayed posting this so that it won’t affect the current events. Since this is purely my opinion about the policies I agreed with, I chose not to post under my company’s newspaper, and perhaps you may disagree with my opinion, I hope you won’t take it as a personal attack.
So... Over the past few weeks, this eNation has plunged into a sea of chaos over the invasion of Kyushu and the subsequence lease of Kyushu to be used by the eUS and their EDEN allies as a launch pad against the PHONEIX colonies in Asia.
It has been said that the truth is the first casualty of war, and this axiom can be applied to this war as well.
The two alliances were desperately wanted us to believe their illusion in order to help them to extend or delay their global war in East Asia. The EDEN alliance wanted us to believe this war is about “righteousness”, and to liberate Asia from the evilness of the PHEONIX alliance, (This is unfortunately the most abuse word in this war IMO). While PHOENIX wanted us to believe they are here to defend our independent and sovereignty.
Unfortunately, these are no more than plain illusion the two big alliances wanted us to believe in order to convince us to accept their demands. EDEN as far as we know was still using PTO in Peru as a tactics against neutral countries, they are also known to be responsible for breaking up the union between eNL and Belgium, and the support the Theocrats TO or eSK. Interestingly, they chose an interesting word to describe these missons, “liberation”. So, they are now here to “liberate” Asia, and to begin, they invaded the neutral nation of Japan to achieve their goal claiming we are responsible for all those abuses by then PEACE and now the PHOENIX alliance. They wanted us to clear a path for them to attack PHOENIX in Asia, or otherwise they will forcefully take it anyway. To get you some perspective to their ridicules claim, it is like giving a kid a bloody nose because they refuse to donate his toy.
The simple fact is EDEN is doing this out of their own interest, because by weaken the PHEONIX colonies in Asia, they can weaken the PHEONIX alliance as a whole. And they can also potentially gain an access to the raw materials they lacked in their own countries.
On the other side of the coin, the PHOENIX alliance and their member states are also guilty of similar deeds recently. The attack on independent Malaysia, China sounded all the alarm bells for anyone who has any thought that they have changed their ways.
In deontological term, there is no righteousness in fighting for either sides who are fighting in Asia mostly just for their own selfish interest. EDEN wants to weaken PHOENIX power, and they are not prepared to risk anything. Instead, they are using a number of neutral countries to open a path for them to achieve that goal.
If they succeed, that is little doubt they would want to have a good share of access to the resources to pay for the war, and they will be the new master in Asia replacing PHOENIX. If they failed, the countries that supported them will be thrown into a pack of wolf of PHOENIX powers.
I have no ill will to our neighbours who have taken the gamble with EDEN in order to get some of their regions back, it is their decision and they have done that by accepting the risk, I’d say good luck to them. In fact, I am a strong supporter of them getting their regions back, and I doubt anyone in Japan who opposed the Kyushu lease support the oppression of Chinese. What they and me included are against is where do we draw the line of this support. The government decided they would give up our neutrality completely to support our friends by leasing Kyushu to the EDEN invaders. I am against the Kyushu lease because it compromises the most important asset in terms of our foreign policy, which is our neutrality.
To understand why, we will have to examine the geopolitical position of eJapan closely. We are situated in the middle of great powers, EDEN and PHOENIX, represented by the Russia and the USA respectively. Although we have also shared a border with Indonesia through Fujian, but this has been eliminated in this war. But we are safely assume the Russia and US border would be permanent unless something dramatic happens which is quite unlikely for now.
History has told us both sides had used their power to force Japan to accept their demands in a number of occasions. Since Japan is a small country with limited power, we cannot win by fighting the threats head on alone. Instead, we have to use the other side to counteract that threat,
This works well if Japan is committed to neutrality, so both alliances would come to our aid and use us for their first line of defence. While they may be only doing this to protect their own interest, our defence will be strengthen and there would be a higher chance we would be able to hold out the attackers. The first battle of Kyushu in this war is the perfect example of that.
The lease of Kyushu changes this completely, now we have one of the side wouldn’t trust us anymore, and probably won’t help us in defending their enemies. As a result, if EDEN wants to extract new demands from us, we won’t have any leverage what so ever to refuse them.
It is situation like this reminds me of the late congressman Hashimoto, who has done pretty similar things to what the government is doing now, and who has always used “righteousness” to defend his actions, belittled anyone who spoke against him or disagreed with him. Oddly enough, he and his opinion were casted aside or even laugh at from people who participate in the forum, and interestingly those people especially those who are in congress now, are pursuing the same risky foreign policy that could harm our neutrality and sovereignty in the long run.
As a citizen of this great country, I hope the government will reverse the current policy. If this continues, this country will just become a puppet of EDEN. Helping our friends and neighbour is worthwhile cause, and it is something I strongly support, but there has to be a limitation where we have to draw the line. Interestingly, even our friend, the Chinese has drawn the line with this friendship by not helping us to defend our neutrality during the first battle of Kyushu, instead they favoured their self interest over our friendship. This is fair enough, so why are we pursuing this line of foreign policies, with no sense of self preservation?
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An excellent article. Clearly well thought out, and highlighting several areas where I have been concerned recently.
Regardless of what is said, some things remain true no matter how they are dressed up -
We are no longer neutral, and have a powerful enemy waiting for a chance to hit back at us, as well as a new "ally" who wouldn't rush to defend us.
Both Alliances used us for their own gain, lied to us and would do so again without blinking
The Dokomo Administration lied to the people of Japan, or at least with-held information which would affect the decision-making process that congress went through.
I applaud your article, and hope everyone reads it.
Angrr.
Indeed, very good article.
Actually I do not think that based on their policy Chinese can be called friends of Japan at all.
I'd disagree with that. even the closest of friends can have disagreement from time to time, because they may have different priorities. This is normal, and I respected their decision.
Hm. A thoughtful article. Perhaps Japan is a nation that only exists in the illusions of others. 🙂
As for our relations with China, we need only to look to our current Ambassador and members of congress who speak their native tongue to give us an insight as to what the citizens there are thinking, rather than treating them like an object and making assumptions about their behavior.
Trust in this game is a quaint idea; governments and diplomats change so quickly that no one opinion is held onto for any lengthy period of time. After the initial lease of Kyushu, many also believed that the United States would no longer listen to anything we had to say. You said it yourself - if it is in their self interest, would the greedy from the alliances turn a blind eye? If we compare the consequences of our past and present foreign policy, the former lead to the conquering of almost two complete nations whereas the current has lead to the opening of strategic regions in a country that is also experiencing change.
Perhaps China also, only exists in the illusions of larger nations.
As for Hashimoto, he was banned for using multiple accounts. Therefore in my opinion anything he had to say as someone without integrity, is worthless.
"Perhaps Japan is a nation that only exists in the illusions of others"
I feel that if we continued, Japan will be a nation only existed in our illusion.
"Trust in this game is a quaint idea; governments and diplomats change so quickly that no one opinion is held onto for any lengthy period of time."
I wouldn't say it is a quaint idea, without adequate evidences, in many instances, you will have to rely on whatever precedent there is to use it for your decision making. When Pheonix helped us in the first Kyushu war, they wouldn't help us without hesistation if they knew their effort would be useless. And now, knowing our tactics in the past, they would certain want to think twice about helping us.
"If we compare the consequences of our past and present foreign policy, the former lead to the conquering of almost two complete nations whereas the current has lead to the opening of strategic regions in a country that is also experiencing change."
The consequence you of speak is not because of our foreign policy alone. In fact, we played a very small part to that outcome. If EDEN was interested in getting India and China on their side. A MPP with them would be sufficient to protect them if they are on the defensive, and they can help them to liberate the lost regions if they are on the offensive.
"As for Hashimoto, he was banned for using multiple accounts. Therefore in my opinion anything he had to say as someone without integrity, is worthless."
Regardless of him being banned, I think the point should still stand. I am not saying philosphy is the beacon of righteousness. My point rather is to highlight the hypocrisy from the member of congress and public who denounced his idea then, but are now fervently supporting the current policy that shared a lot of similarity to his ideas.
"When Pheonix helped us in the first Kyushu war, they wouldn't help us without hesistation if they knew their effort would be useless. "
This is one of the biggest misinterpretations of the Kyushu situation that is circulating.
Phoenix did NOT help Japan. Phoenix defended their own resources - that the battle took place on Japanese soil was irrelevant. It is foolish to think that Phoenix would have committed if Kyushu was not a strategic isthmus defending their High Iron, and it is equally foolish to think that Phoenix would not have committed if the battle had taken place elsewhere - even if it meant defending an Eden location, Phoenix would have defended the territory with all they could.
"Phoenix did NOT help Japan. Phoenix defended their own resources "
Well, if you read my article, I have already explained that. Are you being a bit political correct to pick on a small point I posted in my response because I don't want to write another 1000 words to define the context I have already explained in my article?
Then don't go around claiming that Phoenix "helped" Japan. That is incorrect.
Are you interested in bringing out other points? or you just want to play word games and argue about semantics?
"Are you interested in bringing out other points?"
No, I have brought out the point I wanted to at this time.
I'll be fair and explain it the context to you again, maybe you missed it or something.
Phoenix did help Japan, help doesn't neccessary mean they want to defend us, and doing this in the spirit of friendship or whatever goodwill they have to us.
It is not uncommon to use the word help to describe an assistance that is based on the exchange of material things. Say, if I worked in a shop, it is not uncommon to say I helped the customer to choose a product. My motive may be just to earn a living or for an exchange in something material. But my action helped the customer to come to a decision of what he/she want to buy.
Just like you said and I have explained, their motive was to use us as their first line of defence to defend their colonies.
But their action saved Kyushu from being conquered by the American during the first battle of Kyushu. This is an undeniable fact.
"Then don't go around claiming that Phoenix "helped" Japan. "
But they did. The reason might be that they did it out of their own self-interest, but they did help Japan.
The same as the coast guard rescuing you from drowning - it might be their job to do so which they are payed for, nevertheless they did save you.
"When Pheonix helped us in the first Kyushu war, they wouldn't help us without hesistation if they knew their effort would be useless. "
"Phoenix did NOT help Japan. Phoenix defended their own resources "
End result being that eJapanese soil would not of felt the boots of an invader and the companies and citizens of Kyushu would of stayed within the borders of eJapan and perhaps we'd be a bit more politically united right now.
Self-intrest has always been a prime mover.
eUSA could not morally condone the situation in regards to eSouth Korea, but in the terms of self-intrest they saw a way to plant a potential speed-bump near the PEACE nations of eJapan and eRussia so whilst we fought against the Theocrat PTO - The eAmericans supplied them with guns and gold.
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An excellent article. Clearly well thought out, and highlighting several areas where I have been concerned recently. x2
@Rolan😛 Great article, but it pretty useless to discus with these guys that are in control now. All we can do is vote them out of office.
Voted, and also agreed with Origineel!
Since it's fun to continue debating a single point rather than the whole article:
When you define Phoenix's "help" at Kyushu, you have to consider that the USA clearly always intended to return Kyushu to Japan. Japan suffered the displacement of ~200 citizens, and the economy/job market has been slightly disrupted. But even if Phoenix had not lifted a finger to defend Kyushu, Japan would not have been significantly impacted.
The question for the future is what will happen if either side attempts to invade Kyushu, with hostile intent to keep it.
sigh... I wrote a long answer and it is all gone when I submit it...
let me try again after I finish a few things.
Lovely article Roland dear 😃
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we used to be a puppet of Phoenix, now we're a puppet of EDEN.
what really needs to be addressed is WHY are there only TWO ways from NA to Asia?
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the ultimatum, or the fact that you guys had several days to impeach Dokomo if you truly had a problem with what he was doing, or at least try to impeach him to show your disagreement with his plans.
If PHOENIX had agreed with the ultimatum, which was a compromise in that they could have kept Heilongjiang, then this war would have not had had to occur.
Instead, PHOENIX rejected it, Russia attacked China, and a whole bunch of other stuff had happened before time was up for the ultimatum.
Dokomo should not be blamed for taking advantage of the situation in Kyushu to try to make some changes in the world, changes that Japan could not have made in any other situation, as sad as that is to say. For the first time in a long time, Japan held the world in its hands.
Unfortunately, PHOENIX decided to be greedy.
According to the Deontological argument, we should observe this from Japan's stance not Eden's. Kant believed one should do what is right, which would be perceived to be moral. In this scenario, Japan leased Kyushu in regards for liberation of China, which makes the decision: moral (also good because we did it out of sense of duty). Subsequently, the article also presents a consequentialist argument, stating that the end result will be Japan being an Eden's puppet.
However, a deontologist is not concerned with consequences for they believe that through good will, good results will happen. Our policy shouldn't be: be neutral at all costs to avoid being a puppet. Rather, Japan should do what it can and if it has the choice, it should take the choice which Japan believe is right, in this case helping Asia at the cost of Eden/Phoenix War rather than avoiding the issue out of self-preservation.
Our foreign policy, no matter how hard we try will be influenced by nations and alliances surrounding us. We shouldn't try to remain neutral on all cases, avoiding the blows as they come. But what we should do is, take action whenever needed. That is how we become an independent nation. Having a dream, the people share and the people strive to achieve.