Congress Roundup (April) - They Represent You!
Day 5,633, 03:09
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by Mr Woldy
Hello to all eagerly waiting for election day. As always Congress election day is on the 25th, this coming tuesday. I've included my 1-0-1 of why to vote below (again!) so you can learn it by rote! Whether you're voting to hear less from me or voting to hear more, cast your vote!
There has been a positive response to the new approaches TRS have brought to Congress, and one particularly change has been the reporting on Congress participation. This provides a more in-depth look at how Congresspeople are engaging with proposals (admin and non-admin) and each other above and beyond what you may gleen from the Country Admin page (which shows results of votes held in the political module).
The below table shows the proportions of Congresspeople from each party who participated in discussions about proposals and any votes consequently held which couldn't be ran via the country admin module. For the purpose of data gathering a Congressperson is considered as having participated in a vote if they cast a vote, and in a debate if they made a contribution (any contribution) to the discussion. In other words, if they were a no-show they aren't marked as participated, if they're anything else they are!
% Participation
There is also a breakdown of voting for motions which were not voted on via the country admin module (breakdowns for which can be found on the country administration page. A couple of donate votes may probably role in on the admin side before the election but of course tha admin votes aren't as interesting as the debates. Netherless I shall update the image for the archive once the new term starts!
Vote Spread
Speakers Observations
There's some positive observations to make about engagement when comparing with last month.
We have seen a surge in country-admin proposals and Congress (non-admin) debates. The former has been in part due to the Springbreak activities and our income from Chile generating the need for many more donate proposals (which Congress had greenlit at the beginning of its term). As for the latter, Congress discussed suggestions from every party resulting in several votes. Some of these were new ideas, some were adjustments to Congress guidelines, and the discussions also included a speaker election and vote about the use of the feed (for which there was high turnout to vote in favour of using it!). This is a much better set of circumstances than three or four months ago. Sadly though engagement across the house sits at just over 60%, and specifically engagement in discussions across the house sits at about 40% - there is still work to do!
In terms of specific parties, kudos goes to TUP for increasing their participation in debates and non-admin votes from around 30% to 40%, and TRS is due a big pat on the back for averaging over 90% engagement all month. GStQ and UKRP did not fare so well, each averaging less than 50% engagement overall and having particuarly low engagement with non-admin proposals (2 and 17 percent respectively).
eHansard
Lastly it is worth mentioning non-admin debates and votes are archived and I am happy to share the logs with anyone who might be intereted in seeing them. All of these stats are auditable.
Voting 101
When election days come, remember:
Voting gets you 5 EXPERIENCE POINTS!, wow, 5. Any adult citizen can vote, and we can all feel fuzzy inside if our turnout twitches slightly.
Voting also determines WHO ENDS UP IN CONGRESS!, as President, or in charge of parties. no surprises there. But it may influence your choice based on the engagement or demeanour of a particular party.
You CAN GET ELECTED TOO! The top 5 parties can elect Congressmen so pick one of those and they may run you (the PP positions you on the party list). Typically there are 40 Congresspeople.
Congress HAVE BUTTONS! They can use them to do laws. These include donating currency to orgs, converting gold to currency, fiddling around with taxes and minimum wage, setting natural enemy or launching airstrikes (or signing MPP's and approving peace, if you're an optimist) and even impeaching the President. They can also provide citizenship to applicants.
Congress HAS OTHER BUTTONS, a whole keyboard full, which they use to discuss whats what, how things might run or to point at things they don't like, and theoretically stop them. Congress is, in game terms, where accountability meets mouse clicks and so this part of Congress life is pretty important (especially when things go wrong!).
Do it for me! (Or your country? if you're that way inclined).
Thanks for reading,
Mr W
Albeit the eUK no longer has a 'King', it used to! And during my time as eMonarch I established a few charity schemes to encourage newer players to get involved. These schemes are still running Feel free to message me for some free stuff if you are level 1-50 and meet any of the following criteria:
Woldy's Urban Achievers - Food and guns rewarded for: Publishing an article; being elected into any position; being awarded any medal.
Royal Writers: 150 GBP for publishing an article in the eUK and an extra 300 GBP for any article you write that reaches ten or more votes. Just message me your article links.
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An interesting article which to some extent duplicates the information regularly published by the TUP President at election time. Nevertheless, this article by Mr Woldy is a useful perspective too.
Whichever way you look at it, the good thing is it encourages people to take note and vote.
Yummy!
I love transparency
Woldy in something transparent? No thanks
You don't know what you're missing!
Mr Woldy once tried to talk to me while wearing see through trousers and pants. I walked away telling him I don't talk to crazy people and I could clearly see he's nuts.
voted - well done
those spamican PFPs do look good
I am a little concerned about the reported low activity levels in this article.
Going back through all of my traffic over the past two months I see little Congressional content. In particular I see nothing regarding an election for the Speaker position - or for abolishment of the Speaker position.
Is there some kind of selective traffic routing going on here - to exclude members of Congress that may not agree with the views of the Speaker?
Please explain what is going on!
Clearly not looking hard enough
That is not a particularly useful response Sambo.
Clear pointers to where these debates were posted and who responded with what response was what I was looking for…
Either you missed it or i dont know the as i dont want to publish congress messages. But the discussion and vote was on the 174th Congress, messaging & notifications message list. Message #90666920 was when the discusion was brought to the floor. The vote was start by the speaker in Message #90673889 and the results were announced on Message #90685101. I would recommend using the feed its easier to keep track of individual votes hope that helps.
Thank you for your clear and unambiguous reply.
I do NOT have the 174th Congress list; I do have the 173rd and previous ones.
Have a been left of the distribution list?
You were in it, you posted in there
https://prnt.sc/9LrQ5RP7AeF9
You must have left
You commented in it 15 days ago message # 90670838 so dont know if you left?
Unless you have removed the message by reporting it then it is in your inbox and you will have been notified of every instance of discussion and voting. Each topic is also posted in the national feed where every congressmen can see and contribute. I don't know what you are suggesting by traffic routing but it's impossible to selectively use the feed or selectively input into a group message so as others have said you must just be somehow missing it. UKRPs low low engagement is nothing to do with how or where debates take place.
Are there any other members of Congress who also have not received the 174th List - or am I the only one?
As shown in Rory’s screenshot above, you were in it.
I cannot find it myself now looking in.
However, I believe this is the one in which we all reccomended reporting the thread because it contained king william’s horrendous slanderous story about Keith under which was way over the line of acceptable behaviour.
I reported the thread so can no longer see it, is it possible you did the same?
Those who reported willy this weekend will be missing the thread so a new one exists. It is possible certacito removed the thread earlier so he didn't have to read it but all topics go in the national feed also.
I have no record of having reported any content within the 174th List stream - and certainly did not leave it (Not the kind of thing that a seasoned eUK politician does do).
Is there any way of getting access to the content that I have missed?
An eUK version of Hansard?
Whatever the reason for this breakdown in communications was - it does in a small way explain the artificially low participation in debates…
What exactly are you suggesting when you say these stats are artificially low? They are gold plated and auditable. You ask if there is an eUK Hansard - this article states in bold that there is. Another example of you wilfully not reading things perhaps! I can provide the record of any debate of your choosing, I can paste a snapshot here if it is your wish.
I'm sorry to say that the only possible explanation for what you describe is that you chose to block the Congress group. This will not have prevented you from contributing in the national feed (make sure you click the flag to see the national feed and not your friends feed - even seasoned players make mistakes).
If you want my view on your low engagement I would imagine it was a product of you replacing your more active Congressmen from last month with people you parachuted in from other games and places. Unfortunately the majority of your new Congressmen have not contributed to any debates or votes outside country admin. This article serves to inform you as PP as much as it does the public whilst you set your list today.
This article and these stats have been put together with the utmost integrity. On a personal level I think it is a big shame that integrity is not reciprocated in what appears to be a mad attempt to save face.
Dear Woldy,
Thank you for the offer of getting a copy of the audited eHansard records. Would you like a one-shot e-mail to send them over - or are they accessible on a shared drive?
The reason for my ‘disconnection’ from the Congressional mail group remains a bit of a mystery - I can assure you that unplugging myself from the cut and thrust of eUK politics is the last thing that I would wish for - my Congressional record is testament to my ability to survive the firestorms and characteristic burnouts that we have experienced over the years!
I look forward to getting into the details of all the traffic that I missed out on!
I have sent you a gallery of the debate screenshots. Including the speaker debate you mention above which you say you were not notified of but which you posted in 3 times (that is the no confidence discussion image). Yours was also the first name I typed into the group message when it was set up so you will note that every post I make states 'mr woldy to certacito and 35 more people', confirming that these messages have all been sent to you, even if they mysteriously were not received. I assume you'll do the decent thing and cycle back some of your spurious claims after reviewing them.
Side note to any reader - These logs are available to anyone who wants them - just ask.
o/
Once again TRS showing how it's done. I continue to be very pleased at how the eUK's Congress is returning to being the heart of eUK life again.
There are actually 37 members of congress as 4 seats were left vacant by too many people voting Spam
If all the seats are filled congress would have 41 members as the President is ex officio a congress member
Not in erep!
Not sure what you mean Huey is a congress member otherwise he would not be able to vote when congress votes. Having a president being a member of the parliament is unusual in RL, not in eRep.
Huey is Country president 🙂 and a fine fellow!
He gets to vote but he is not congress 🙁 we are all poorer for it. Wiki says so!
If you think too many people voted for one party then maybe you need to look at what you're own party is doing to gain more votes.
It is also a legitimate choice for a voter to vote the leading party to reduce the number of congressmen. They are allowed to want to vote for an empty seat
I now have the eHansard archives from Mr Woldy - thank you foe sending the link.
What is not clear from this data is how VOTES are recorded. From the detailed report above, it is reported that there have been eleven yes/no votes - plus selection THREE non-binary votes, viz, CS Guidelines, choice of a Speaker - plus a poll on number of sponsors required for a proposal.
The Voting report shows that TRS Members of Congress are returning a massively higher level of voting than other parties - but this cannot be easily verified as there appear to be no clear records of each of these votes.
If we are going to operate and main a workable Congress then we do need to put in place workable procedures that encourage participation and can be administered in a sustainable manner!
There is a screenshot of each vote given. You received them so you are making this up. I personally do not know what more proof you need - and ofc if you want to check any vites you can ask congressmen directly how they voted to see if it tallies. It will.
Oh Woldy!
Throwing out limp accusations like that does not do any good for your reputation.
In summary, the records of last term are not particularly clear or easy to interpret - hopefully the next term will work out a little better.
Each file is named as to what the vote is and contains a screenshot of every vote cast. Anyone reading this who wishes to see them to judge for themselves if they are unclear can drop me a PM. Pay no heed to petty politics playing out here.
I’m sorry, but no. I’ve read the document as a non congress member. Woldy literally labels ‘votes’ then shows screen shots of how everyone has voted.
I really don’t know how you can’t read, I’m genuinely shocked by your stupidity.
Unless, you are not that thick but just trying to score cheap political points by being difficult.
Its literally just text and screen shots - how do you not get it?!
IK
For the record - I can read (and write) - it comes with many years of practice. Also, I am certainly not stupid.
I will never make personal slurs like the one you have just made above.
It costs nothing to remain polite and civil in public communications.
There has been a spate of cheap political posing scoring recently - but it has not been coming from my direction!
Can we PLEASE stop the mud slinging and try to focus on productive activity?
That is the focus of this article, which you have attempted, it seems, to misrepresent and undermine. Tut tut!
@Certacito - I agree, I don’t think you are stupid, you can’t be that stupid. The point I was trying to make is that I think you are deliberately game playing by pretending you can’t read a simple document.
By trying to cast doubt on the validity of TRS members voting record - except , Woldy has provided all the evidence. This puts you in a difficult position.
Either you accept TRS is the most active party in congress (by a long way) or you make a baseless claim and pretend not to be able to read an easily labeled document which provides evidence that TRS members voted consistently.
I would like to ask outright from the clear evidence can you see TRS members voted legitimately and consistently making them the most active in congress?
You missed it MIK but he’s even wrong here
Certacito you were the biggest mud slinger of all the first time I ran against Huey. Nothing BUT political points gaining and insults directed towards me.
So IK - I am delighted that you have changed your view and that you have retracted your baseless claim that I am stupid. That is progress!
At no time have I challenged the validity of the TRS voting record - rather I wished to see the voting performance of the other (majority) members of Congress to assess what was going on. Remember, for what ever reason (and I am not blaming anyone) I did not receive the Congressional updates towards the end of last term.
AMD - I think that your assertion that I posted nothing but insults during your last but one Presidential Campaign are not true; I try to ensure that my comments are well constructed and fair.
There is no doubt that over the past two months, the amount of traffic generated by TRS members has far exceeded all of the traffic from the other parties. This in turn has led to a modest increase and renewed effort from the others - this is a good thing - and I thank the TRS for their efforts. Without some form of challenge or competition this game would be pointless - thank you for re-energising me to try a little harder!
That's pretty disingenuous when you have three comments on this very article claiming that:
- the stats are 'artificial'
- congress discussions have been 'selectively routed' n.b. - only you decided to selectuvely route them, away from your inbox.
- no clear records have been kept
All of which are untrue. If you consider broadcasting these untruths to be civil and slur-free then I've got some bad news for you! And stubbornly trying to justify it when all these comments stand for anyone chancing upon this article to see is the definition of madness.
Be the change you want to see. Everything you try to call out here you’re guilty of yourself.
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Great article as always!
absolutely disgraceful lack of attendance by certacito