Canada's Need for a Break
Adasko
Augustus Baldwin described me as a Barking Buffoon, probably meaning I'm actually important in Canada, because that's all the people he writes about. Either way, just to prove him wrong (the funniest thing is that I wrote on IRC this as soon as Alberta fell ) I'm shouting, that war-time idealism is the worst thing for as at this hour, and agreeing with Augustus Baldwin (yes, I am!), that Unity is worth nothing compared to competence and ability at this hour.
Alberta has fallen through complete incompetence, and through really bad underestimates about the enemies true power. The fact that it fell so easily, We just stood doing nothing, with Coda screaming that she has no money for supplies, and that 1ronman never gave her the pass for the Tank Fund. (editor's note: 1ronman explained now, that he sent the pass, but she never got it. Also, most of the fund was distributed, luckily. 🙂
I actually wish that the Hungarians would make such an administrative mash-up, this way We could actually win a battle or two, against PEACE wishes (yes, PEACE obviously wanted Us to win Manitoba, so We felt secure) The problem is though, that despite desperate tries to start a baby-boom, or make another useless fund for gold to be wasted in one battle lost with -75k, is just plainly absurd.
Canada is on the verge of destruction, and if We don't change anything, I'm not going to be optimistic here, We're going to get our asses kicked, and lose this war. What We need is a break from this war. A peace with France and PEACE to ensure that, We will survive.
At this moment self-preservation, outweighs any other concerns, Realpolitik is a thing that We should introduce in to our calculations, and notice that our idealism is only a mere symptom of our previous isolationist state of play, with nobody directly attacking Us for ages.
Yesterday's scenes on IRC were really tragic, in all the means, I must say. Coda banning petz for just saying what he thought about our efforts. This shows, how our politics suffered through this war, We were, despite Jacobi's words, completely unready for.this invasion, and our victories were only theoretical, when in practice, it was PEACE strategy winning.
I'll probably get kicked from Cabinet for these words, I'll probably be hated by many, but I don't really care. Peace is the only logical option, unless somebody else can tell me how We can protect ourselves without it. We're sitting ducks for France and PEACE now, disorganized, with our finances struggling.
Why do We need a break? The answer is simple. We need it to rebuild what has been lost, We need it to get NoIdea's baby-boom plan going, We need it to repair our struggling economy, and We need it to do breathe and make an actual strategy, not just "Wait, wait, wait, attack there!" Because that's all the strategy I've noticed. It cost Us NS, it cost Us Quebec and it cost Us Alberta.
So make your choice Canada.
Peace or War?
Stability or Instability?
Self-preservation or Woodrow Wilson-like political idealism?
It was an easy choice for me.
Comments
I am not staying up 18 hours a day repatriating eCanadians from Occupied Territory to just...surrender.
I thought you worked 19 hours a day?
I am off today and tomorrow.
Gotta keep my waking hours the same or I'll get jet lag
Have a break have a kit kat! lol
sigh bad times for Canada
hmmmm...
how 'bout dem fireworks on the weekend?
whats are back up plan if were conquered. Guess i'll be moving to florida.
lol fireworks + lighting is da bomb!
plus i saw it in a hotel downtown great view!
I worked Saturday until 26:00 hours (aka 2 am)
Fortunately I could park in front of my apartment...not too many wreckless drunks out at the time...
I was working outside in that thunderstorm.
Man was I a wretch. I haven't been that wet since that brothel in Vietnam...
yeah, tell me about brothels...wetter is better
American heading towards financial ruin?
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Voted.
However please dont vote&subscribe (I know you won't) the pile of poo that Pilatus posted.
I understand the frustration. Early in this war I transferred all my gold into Victory Bonds. I did that because I had confidence that those in charge would be better able to decide where it should be spent. I've really lost that confidence. Tomorrow I get another 5 gold. I'm keeping it and using it myself to buy weapons.
I think one key mistake is we keep telling people NOT to attack, unless they're going to come back later. Hey, the other side has demonstrably proven they can out-tank us. We MUST switch tactics and try to stay even or ahead in battles before that last frantic hour, which typically takes place prime time in Hungary and 4 am for us. And we need to start using that same time disadvantage against the Hungarians on our attacks.
I'm not sure we ever had a chance in this war, and I don't agree that we should give up. Germany gave up, except for those brave Germans who remembered our bond and have come to fight with us. UK went puppet. Frankly, I'd rather fight forever in a hopeless cause than give up. Remember, this war has cost the other side a lot too. Each day we keep fighting it costs them more than they want it to.
Also, if we leave now, we leave the Americans alone. I'm no lover of the Yanks, but no way do they deserve that from us.
We leave the Americans with EDEN which is not that alone. We'll leave them alone either like this, or by getting conquered. Self-preservation is a priority.
Fighting to the death is unnatural.
I disagree, I think we need to fight to the death and after we are defeated we f*ck with their parties and keep launching resistance wars.
I subscribed, and I completely agree with you. eCanada will lose soon, if we continue this way.It's quite hard to find the day's orders in the morning, if there are any(Most of the time, you see the previous day's orders. We need a better system, maybe through partys PMing their members.
Banach, with citizenship implemented tomorrow, We wouldn't even be able to TO them. Sorry to say, We need peace.
Nope, this is why you got the Barking Buffoon title.
What we need is a Churchill to see us through to the other side.
Not a Petain or Quisling to throw down our arms in the face of the enemy.
russian probaply doesnt want peace with you...maybe they want to teach you a lesson...
What lesson is that? That you can't trust a Russian? Or that on their own, Russia is no match for Canada? If so, lesson learned. 😉
Self-preservation might be an issue if this were real life. Since it's a game, I say honour costs nothing, dishonour costs all.
People don't fully understand bushido code: "The way of the samurai is death. This means that when you are compelled to choose between life and death, you must quickly choose death."
Why is this? If you choose life and give a thought to self-preservation, you will act without the necessary calmness and courage. In so doing you will actually ensure defeat and (for those of you who are self-centred) increase the chance of death as well.
Instead, you recognize that you must choose death, and so now what remains is to determine the way of your death. Will you die fighting honourably or fleeing dishonourably?
Being that it is only a game ... I willing fight to the death. Screw PEACE!
who's to say they would even accept a surrender? I see no choice but to stand up for what we believe in. I believe in a free Canada. What do you believe in?
Good to see that ordinary eCanadians want peace and prosperity. PEACE has come, now wait for prosperity.
YES!
PEACE!
I would sooner see every last Canadian region lost and have us all fighting resistance battles before selling out our allies to the south. What are we, eUK?
Keldire, I believe in a Canada that can prosper, instead of struggling to survive.
PEACE is good choice. But... look at eRussia for example. We never surrendered even we held last region only. And we won at last. But PEACE is good choice indeed 🙂 We are not evil spores like ATLANTIS was. Current war is not occupation for but is punishment for eUSA ally... this is my private opinion of cos. Sorry my french English 😵
eCanada has given alot to help defend the eUS but in truth the only reason eCanada is in this war is so PEACE could attack the eUS. You've done your duty and truthfully it's admirable you didn't take the easy way out *cough* eUK *cough* but it's clear the eUS is on the losing side of this war why continue to risk yourselves for them?
Canada is going to loose all of it's defence system and all of it's hospitals.
Even in a game this is not something to wish upon yourself. It will prevent any form of fighting back in the futur.
Choose the right side. Choose PEACE.
Surrender doesnt make much sense. If we surrender then they will keep what they want (our high resource regions)and we will never be able to get them back, just like russia. if we bled them out we will still possibly lose, however they are then in a weakened state with a lot less gold to combat our further RW. if ur trying to think about the future, id rather have PEACE out 100k gold after a full attrition war then we just give up and crawl away with territories that are useless. its all about resources, who ever controls them makes the money. thats what they want. and if u give up and just give it to them, then they really have won. if they have to take it and wreck their economy to do so, we have won.
I partially agree - but not necessarilly the surrender option... but I think we all need to realize that in say 4 days time when we're all crammed into Ontario (that being all that is left of the original Canada - how long do you think BC or NB will stand?) and maybe a handful of former US territories, that even if our population builds us a 300k, 400k or more wall we have shown nothing to prove we can win that fight when it comes to us.
So, instead of just fighting or fighting's sake, we should start seriously considering what is going to happen when Canada does fall - or short of that a drastic turn in strategy, alliances, whatever to prevent it.
Speculatiting about Canada fighting or surrender in the war is funny, as if Canada is of any serious threat to PEACE.
No you are not.
Remember Canada is in this war only because USA needs Canada and new fronts for PEACE counter-attack aganist USA
I keep hearing the PEACE is just wanting to punish the USA. How Why then did you not stop at Nova Scotia? Nunavut isn't even close to the USA yet you have taken it from us.
Cut through the BS and be honest here. You want to punish the USA but thought you would liberate our resources on the way. We like Canada but we like their resources more.
I am all for eCanada's survival but what kind of survival would we be looking at here? All of our resources are taken and we are confined to a couple of provinces? eCanada is a vegetable on life support. Do we want to exist in that state?
I wonder? Would PEACE give us back all of our home territories if we were to surrender? An occupied eCanada is not a free eCanada.
Where's the logic here? PEACE isn't going to just sit around to let us recuperate while we plan on retaking Canada.
Plus, with regards to PEACE tactics, I'd like to see the counter strategy to getting steamrolled. I'd rather go out guns blazing.
Hooray for Wikiquote! Guess which prime minister 😉
"I, for one, will be convinced that the Canada we know and love will be gone forever. But, then, Thucydides wrote that Themistocles' greatness lay in the fact that he realized Athens was not immortal. I think we have to realize that Canada is not immortal; but, if it is going to go, let it go with a bang rather than a whimper."
I would agree it's time for peace. Churchill didn't give up because he see the possbility of winning -for dragging US into war.
Now our econ is in ruin (devalued currency, with no domestic raw material, this war will get more expensive and expensive)
Un-united gov't - Congress is splited into 3 side (Jacobi, anti-Jacobi, Hungarian TO) - THIS IS THE WORST ONE, with no strong gov't, no country could win in a war.
Enemy out-class us in military - Battle of Alberta
Lack of international support (Clearly International can see which side is winning, nobody would want to be on the losing side. German, Japan, and UK are all good example)
Althought I doubt if enemy would willing to negotiate - why negotiate when u can take everything?
In order to force enemy into negotiation (into a better position in peace term) We will show enemy, if they want total conquest, WE WILL FIGHT TILL BITTER END!! which means get gold in all mean, start resistence war everywhere.
Remember, look back to History, NO country can win forever. They will have their time of going down. we should keep our potenial and fight in the future.
I say maybe, join PEACE then cause a revolution!
fight to the end , and if we are done we fight in rw's till we make them so bored of fighting us they quit and go home LOL we are eCanada and it is not Canadian to give up ,
I'm with Rigour6...pass the ammo and strap your helmet on
Fight till we have no land, then move to america and help them? Then once we hopefully stopped the invasion start planning on taking Canada back.
Its a choice between a longer war and a longer recovery (fight to the end), or a shorter war and a shorter recovery (surrender now and keep Ontario).
But the eUSA will never forgive us for bailing out. And we need their help with eUK when it comes time for vengeance. So in the long term we are better off staying in the war until we lose all our regions, or until eUSA surrenders, whatever comes first.
Saying you are going to fight to the death at this point is basically saying please take over us. Why not just request eFrance citizenship and stop postponing the inevitable if that is how you feel? Treating with an enemy isn't cowardice or betrayal it's intelligence.
a Peace with PEACE means nothing !
a Peace with PEACE means Slavery !
PEACE won't give us the Regions back ! Did you see that UK got their Regions like Scotland or so Back ? NO ok they got parts of our Land but still they have to live without Scotland...
I am sure when we make Peace with PEACE, Peace wants than Onatario to have more Ways to Attack USA. And what we do now without Onatario ?
Even this Time here is worst, but we can be sure Onatario won't fall there are more than 2700 People there a huge concentration, the Wall is damn high ...
Even if Ontario fell, PEACE only gains territory, not people. True eCanadians will continue to fight for our country, even if it means taking up that fight from allied soil. As soon as we capitulate then they have won. If we keep fighting, then we at least have a chance.
There is no hope in surrender against this opponent.