Best solution for Bulgarian-Turkey issue
Laki8472
Needles to say that this issue is going on everybodys nerves by this time.
OFC ONE is having fielddate with all this, and with problems of their own on battlefield and internaly, I see that only this thing is blocking absolute annihilation of all ONEs members.
I belive that this thing is intentionaly manufactured to reshuffle alliances once more time, since this is obviousely not fun anymore.
This level of TEDEN absolute superiorety is bad for buisness, since war is good for buisness(for admin ofc).
We have seen no mather how PHX, NWO or ONE change their name players are the same, and it looks like they are incompatible to function together, to say the least.
I belive that Bulgarin players dont wont to go in ONE, that is obvious from comments of their own, they are fixed to fight against Turkey and that is it.
If few countries in ONE, like they smartely doing it now, desing themselfs as ones who hate Turkey and want nothing else than to delete Turkey , than Bulgarian players will see that they have (imaginary) friends(enemie of my enemie is my friend) in those countries and that will(is) create/ing proONE curent.
I see Bulgaria as great allie, and since they entered EDEN I didnt see any faul play from their side, and they helped as much as they always could(Flausino excluded)
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That being said, just in case Im wrong I did come up with another modification of proposed Bul-Tur deal;
1st I must say few more things that I know it isnt true.
I saw in many Bulgarian comments that Bulgarian veto isnt recognized as valid.
That is simpely not truth since I didnt recive any info on Turkeys enterance into EDEN.
I did saw more than one attempt to solve this issue, and every day someone, today its me, trying to acomodate to everyones wishes.
Several Bulgarians comments are on basis that their actions should be respected since they are in EDEN.
I think that being in EDEN mean that EDEN priorities are ones to be folowed, and owerall being in alliance means that one should think more broadly to what their actions will influence whole alliance.
By not doing that Bulgaria damage all alliances battles and eforts of war, and cripple their own relationship with Finland, as its so far flowless reputation of good allie.
That being said, back to my proposal;I saw that each side want to make a deal, and deal means negotiations.Word negotiations means that both sides should compromise in some areas, to mutual final agreement.
Since Bulgaria is in EDEN and Turkey wants to join i belive that Bulgaria has right to ask for gesture of goog faith from Turkey.
If Turkey alows Bulgaria one of three reigns from Iran first, Bulgaria will see that even with Turkey she can make mutual stand, and I predict that Bulgarian CPs wish and efort to put a good word in Bulgarian congress for MPP will be much more easier job.
After MPP Turkey will alow rest of reigns to Bulgaria and i can include EDEN to vauch for this, so if Turkey refuses EDEN will suport Bulgaria into completing what is agreed.
I belive if Turkeys wish to join EDEN are honest, she will comply with this easely and if not...we go Bulgarian way.
Everyone wins o/
Dont insult eachothers, try to understand that this is initiated from few masterminds behind the scenes, and we all are just pawns in someones else game.We saw with few good positioned articles entire alliances can be destroyed, and all this is well planed by someone else, so why should we insult eacother, and real initiator will get his hands full of cash, and we will just show ugly side of human nature undeserved.
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blah, dosta mi je više i jednih i drugih 🙂
I can only say that Turks are neither provoking nor childish party in this case.
I agree almost completely with this words.
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+1 on Dr_Revenue
like all other Turks said , Bulgaria must show a will of good towards eTürkiye so we can give the regions even for free without rent.
But trying to harm our country will make the relationship only worser.
The good will has to come from the people of Bulgaria , what i don't expect them to do.
So no MPP with Bulgaria , no to rent regions of Iran for Bulgaria : )
Turkey is not the one who act like a child in this situation.
Turkey is not the one who insult Bulgaria everwhere.
Turkey is not he one who try to create new promlems.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Bulgaria/law/98163
as you can see Bulgaria planned all these a week ago. They signed a MPP with Iran 6 days ago and now they liberate a region.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Iran/law/98808
and Iran NE on Russia so their plan is not bad so far.
i can't see any positive action against Turkey. i don't wanna mention about Bulgarian NE on Turkey 564879321 times.
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@Yasin Kayaalp "The good will has to come from the people of Bulgaria , what i don't expect them to do."
You Fu*kin' kiddin' me?! WHO THE FU*K ARE YOU?! The deal was on table - as fair as could be! No false promises and you asked first our friendship?!? This is not a god damn item for fu*k sake! This must be deserved and the offer our CP made was the right way for you to do it but you refused!
I really don't understand your arrogant attitude! To expect good will from us is like we need you, not the opposite!
Laki8472, by the way you are 3 day later with this proposal.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/a-message-from-bulgarian-cp-to-all-friends-1975897/1/20
But as you can see we must first bow before them and then they'll consider giving us something as act of mercy... Well I know this may be childish as our brother Dr_Revenue imply but I really don't like someone to play games with me.
@jaymzhtfld, Go and count your nationalists cCc comments cCc in the eBulgarian press please. I don't even want to talk about the otomanists part like thus spoke god!
Isn't it childish to refuse a reasonable offer for useless for you region?
"What i offer is:
- if you decide to give us what we need, three days after we make an agreement i will put a law for MPP between our countries in the Parliament. Meanwhile all the efforts from our government will be to have a positive result to that voting.
- If the Parliament say „No“ to that MPP our government will pay you 300 gold as a rent for the regions that we need for one month."
Are you kidding me?!!
if they decide to give you what you want then you will consider trying to put MPP on vote who will most likely not pass.then you will for this month give turkey 300g for rent and next month do the same vote thing which could failed again so this time turkey will ask for their region back and you will refuse and war will continue but this time you will have that region and will fight with full power to keep it....pathetic..
Turkey has no interest over Bulgarian regions, we respect their borders as long as they respect ours.
Turkey has good intentions towards Bulgaria we even supported their war against Hungary ( our best old ally)
Turkey has no problem of giving regions away to her friends.
Today we saw that despite all the failed NE attemps of Bulgaria, they really seek war with us which can also be seen in their articles and shouts.
They signed MPP with enemy of Turkey and enemy of EDEN. They organised an attack against us with coordination of ONE countries. They have been insulting us, undermining us, trying to issolete us.
If they came up with a deal before all these happened maybe our goverment would think about it but from now on EDEN should be the mediator and guarantor of any further meetings.
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I agree with each word.
who has the regions ? eTurkey
who need those ? eBulgaria
is Turkey an official member of eden ? idk
is Bulgaria an official member of eden ? yes
which alliance needs eTurkey more ?
which country beside eTurkey can betray their alliance ?
for all the answers :
Silent enim leges inter arma.
bring it on flausino o7
Dinofr +31
I was on last 2 negotiations with both countries (all toghether 23 hours in 2 days) and i can tell you this
1. bulgaria doesnt want 1,2,3 region. they want 5 and they dont accept nothing less. + sindh + some other china/india regions. 5 or gtfo is attitude from bg side.
2. even if they get 5 region they will not guarantee MPP and not to mention full membership
3. turkey is afraid (with good reason) that bg will go to ONE with 10/10 bonuses if Asbfresh or Flausino won elections cause they both already negotiated about joining ONE.
4. turkey wait for new bg gov to continue negotiations cause this gov gived them only lies and negative propaganda until now.
so...
nothing for us all to do until we have new bg gov.
"both already negotiated about joining ONE."
another lie from croatian player... keep lying and insulting us and we could really go to ONE, even if we don't wont to.