Belgium
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by Cocoamok
Many news on the Belgian affair is being spread in the media today and yesterday. In a lot of comments I read that only I&W (after taking the lead) had worked to solve that problem.
Sadly I had to write the article for informing the people at that time when we lost Flanders and organised elections. Sadly I had to deliver many, many moving tickets to people who wanted to vote there. Sadly I had to spent many hours to explain these things to the people that did not understand how to get Belgian citizenship. Sadly I had to set up some companies to give work for people in Belgium. Sadly I had to talk a lot with our allies on this issue. Sadly I had to open jobs for the people who came voting and inform them where to find these jobs. Sadly I had to spent a lot of time in meetings on this case. Indeed al for vain. Because I did nothing, all my many hours I just imagined I was doing something on this matter. And all the things other people did who were not member of I&W, it is nothing.
I am sorry. I must have done nothing, I just imagined, it was fiction, it is eRepublik, a game:
It is all done by I&W.
The experienced and active party.
And because they did all and other parties nothing they decided to do away their Belgian citizenship to organise our nation better. So they can have again a party member of them coordinating the Belgian affair like they did in this government and again their party president can coordinate the coordination of the political parties.
A real change.
The supporters of the other parties can best keep their Belgian citizenship. That way, at last, there will be fair elections in the United Netherlands because I&W can become the biggest party when they will vote very tactically. The future in their hands must be bright.
Disclaimer: All things said in this article is fiction, no real life persons play a role in this.
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Voted, you know you will always have my support 🙂
Really? Is that what we are saying? That no individuals have taken actions? You mention yourself but what about Antiko and Mark Decius then? You seem to forget them.
Not all is done by I&W. But tell me, cocoamok is I&W doing the most?
What we are saying is that the gov and the other parties arent doing anything now. Not in the past but now. No arrangements have been made, you yourself agreed with that yesterday.
We arent forcing anyone those of I&W that want to stay behind please do. However, thanks the government people like, Kixtart, Deviltje and especially Luuklag are fed up. Luuklag stayed in Belgium longer then anyone. Not having a decent job or not able to fight in wars at all. Go at the forum and look at his response. If these guys are fed up that say a lot.
Usual battle lines being thrown up. BP and LSD versus Iron and Wine.
@Mitch Rapp, read what I wrote.
"And all the things other people did who were not member of I&W, it is nothing." This includes people like Mark Decius and Antiko.
I did a lot as government, I did a lot as LSD. About 20 activists of LSD have Belgian citizenship. The my belief about of 50 from BP.
Still I do a lot. I know others do also a lot. But Mitch Rapp, you coordinated the parties, another member of I&W coordinated the Belgian affairs. And than I&W members are fed up?
Even a trust able one, Luuklag, writes on our forum in the congress that he wants to start a RW and wanted to give the Benelux party to the group. He is blaming BP and blaming government. That is his right.
I must believe it will be better with more I&W members in the congress and the government? When the two who coordinated this were from I&W? With this reaction: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-i-amp-w-important-announcement-1042730/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-i-a[..]1/20
Be fair, see what you did. You were one of the coordinators, you yourself are telling other people are doing things. Maybe coordinate better before your own party members are making havoc.
Voted.
Actually, only few was done since last election because... There were nothing to do.
Belgian citizenship is useless as long as there are no elections, so there is nothing we could do (excepted giving MT).
I don't have a clue about who did what but I don't think that there were so much to do.
DanielB1989 had been asked to organize the Presidential Elections and not the otherones. I asked him last week to do this because he was never approached by the government. I did that. Then he was reassigned by ThomasRed to be involved with the next alliance.
Nobody was left so i decided to fill the gap myself. I told the PP's in the meeting on Wednesday that we wouldnt be doing strategic voting so that i could focus on the Belgium elections and help organize it.
So we were going to organize it but then we felt even more betrayed by the gov an refuse to do so no longer.
We dont make havoc. The lack of actions by so many people that are responsible they are creating havoc. For far to long.
I will publish an article tomorrow explaining excatly why we did. I wanted to do it tonight but i am not able.
@jofroi Nothing to do? The government said we should contact the new Belgian players and coach them. Help them see the things that are ongoing show them the true enemy. But talk is all the government did, no actions. So plenty to do but no one doing it.
Your sarcasm is just sadly..
The members of BP and LSD where there when the RW happened.. I&W really moved people to Belgium. Also Luuklag is just describing his frustration.. You can take that as seriously as your sarcasm..
Fact is, there was to little communication between government and opposition. Together with the hole Peace charter thing, the possible strategic voting during coming congress elections and some decisions that where made without informing enough important people, things just blew up..
Instead of just keep throwing mud, Cocoamok.. you should take an example from your president who is willing to admit that he made some mistakes and wants a discussion in order to save our Union..
regards PMCD
Indeed sarcasm. But here a quote from one I&W congress member: ""But Cocoamok how can I be part of a regime that is running this country into the ground with such efficiency as yours?"
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/mr-president-where-are-you--1043929/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/mr-p[..]1/20
Try to seek common ground whit such people is a no go for me.
The government is all to blame and all others parties are doing nothing. I do not tell nor insinuate I could not work better. But this team work from I&W, it is nothing for me.
And again BP and LSD also moved a lot of people to Belgium. But that is not been seen by I&W. No problem, it is another party.
Mitch Rapp: Thanks for wasting energy and money on valuable Belgian citizenships. I wish I never had given my energy on achieving that. But that is history. Good luck with your tactical voting and no consulting other parties on your decision to ask I&W members to move out of Belgium and become Dutch citizens.
i made my own decission to leave Belgium before mitch rapp made the article.
You'r the best. Just face it, Cocoa!!
All this bickering makes me glad I am 'but' a humble soldier....
Ontopic, listen to what this trooper has to say. In my opinion these kind of articles (from both sides!) are useless (so no vote here), and we are losing precious time arguing over petty details like who screwed who. Our enemies are laughing on the other side of the fence!
I&W asked people to regain their eUNL citizenship.
So what?
I&W is a party and a party has a right to these kind of actions. Concerning party politics parties do not have to consult each other. What we must not forget is that we are all on the same side. LSD did a good job for eUNL as well, and I will not pick any party as a scapegoat.
@Phyrax: Indeed a party can make its own decisions. They are free in that. But when you just have consulted the other parties on the strategy to follow for the congress elections in UNL and Belgium and you decide to change that strategy and you want to cooperate with all parties (as Mitch Rapp is telling) it would be far better to consult the other parties first before breaking your agreement.
(Aside that the loss of Belgian citizenships will have a big setback on our plans to reunite our nation. A goal that is shared by I&W.)
I&W may break any agreement, it will however not make it easier to cooperate with them. Again that is their free choice, same as it is the free choice what other parties do with that.
And what about the agreement that the last vote wasn't really representative for the country and we should work together because of that. All parties except BP and LSD were ignored in the initial coalition talks and now you are making important decissions without consulting anyone. You are just trying to place all bad things in the account of I&W and you are blaming them for breaking agreements. I&W is actively trying to win in Belgium, but want to participate in important decissions also, something LSD+BP is denying them.
Cocoamok always seems to be on the misunderstood side in any big arguments...
Don't give up coco, your efforts won't be in vain.
Voted, you've my support Cocoamok.
@Kixtart: We did work together. There were 2 I&W ministers in the government, there were even more officials from I&W in the government.
Nothing is said that I&W would be in the coalition talks. It is only that the parties thought it would be.
The working group on Belgium was with all parties, Mitch Rapp was coordinator on that, DanielB1989 was High Commissionaire on Belgium.
And about the PEACE charter, if consultations with no one are the same as consultations with the congress than you are right. But I cannot follow you on this.
And when giving up Belgian citizenships is the way to regain Belgium, I&W has done a good decision.
I&W was in these important decisions, but I&W was not in the diplomatic talks on a new alliance (as LSD was neither). Same is that our army decided to attack former allies without consulting government, the congress or political parties (although I&W will know about that because it holds the Ministry of Defense still even when there is no minister).
Those things happens, a congress cannot organise things. It may vote on these things. So when a new alliance is proposed, be sure there will be discussion and a vote on that. I&W can even ask or organise a referendum on that.
A coalition talk should be with all parties and make a decission based on the available people and plans, not by refusing parties based on some opinion in advance. And we didn't give up the Belgium, but just don't want to give up eUNL also. And how can you blame I&W for attacking our allies in a defensive matter when this isn't true?
@Kixtart: Now I blame I&W for attacking our allies in a defensive matter? I cannot follow that, but it does not matter. My message is that a congress is not the organiser of things, that is the government. The congress controls the government.
How coalition talks are that is up to the people who organise that. When parties disagree they can appoint someone else. You can try to force parties together that do not want to cooperate. But that is not that useful in my opinion.
Opinions with whom to cooperate will be based on experiences I hope and not on prejudices. I think it is foolish the start every time without a past.
"Same is that our army decided to attack former allies without consulting government, the congress or political parties (although I&W will know about that because it holds the Ministry of Defense still even when there is no minister)." -- I meant that. What attack do you mean? So yes, now you are blaming I&W for something that isn't true or atleast without any proof at this moment. I'm not going to say LSD stole money from our country for the same reason when I can't proof it (and not true as far as I know 😉 ) And I didn't say you have to force parties together that don't want to cooperate, but you give them a chance sometimes without blocking them prematurely.
still wondering why you take it all so personal, if i took all the things personal which are said the last months, i would already stopped playing
Voted! youre a really good news publisher