Australian Resistance
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by FallbackPants
With a great influx of new citizens to eAustralia, there have come increased calls for active campaigning against Indonesia in occupied areas of Australia.
What is perhaps unknown by these new eAustralians is that such action is more dangerous to the survival of their country than they imagine.
Indonesia is one of the most dominant countries in the New World. They control territories across the Southern Hemisphere. During the Indonesian-Australian War they single handedly defeated the ATLANTIS alliance. This is not a state to be trifled with.
Similarly Australia's only border, as long as New Zealand remains uninhabited, is with Indonesia. They are the only threat we have.
Finally, and most politically important, the Agreement for the Independence of Australia (available here) States that, according to Section B Article 3: "iii. Australia will defend Indonesia in the case of a Fight For Freedom (FFF) in Indonesian held Australian territories."
This clearly means that any attempt to start a Resistance War in Occupied Australia will result in not only Indonesian but also Australian opposition.
Talk of resistance throughout Occupied Australia threatens to halt and even reverse the gains we have been making to regaining our country. Political action is the only legitimate option. Keep the peace and allow the slow reclamation of territories to occur via the treaty.
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good article voted, great for new citizens to know the current situation
Quote: Agreement for the Independence of Australia (available here)
The link above doesn't work. I would like to have a look at this document, anyone got a working link?
good article m8, voted. especially like the newspaper name 😉
http://www.erepublik.com/en/forum/topic/81564/contract-between-indonesia-and-australia/1
this isnt the wiki version thoe 😛
Great article, voted.
I'll add that the government is doing everything it can to get more territory back, and we should have NT very soon.
This is a really important point to stress to new players, most of whom (like me before I read the history) would look at the situation prima facie and naturally stir into irredentist sentiment.
You tell them newbs the what-for!
Here's the wiki link. Sorry my html is quite rubbish
http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Agreement_for_the_Independence_of_Australia
Voted.
So basically were indonesia's little doggy?
But at the moment the rate of new players joining indonesia is higher than the rate of players joining australia so the waiting wont do any good for us.
Either get more players to join quickly now or we may be force to have an early fight with them to gain our land back
The agreement is up next month.
As much as I would like to see an all out Australian offensive to gain Australian land back it just isn't plausible at the moment. This is one case where diplomacy is the best option for now.
How many times has there been a resistance war in the Northern Territory lately?
I thought that after 2 'practice' RW's, Australia would be given the Northern Territory after the 3rd?
Hasn't that been already?
If so, WHY is the Northern territory still Indonesian?
great article.
sweet arcticle, voted
@jerome: mate it may be good to read the Insider.
War Module has been suspended and all battles have been paused.
It should restart again in less than a week
Jeremy - there's been 2 NT RW's.
The 1st was ended accidentally - with so few people in NT (this was organised so) the 'wall' within the battle was tiny (4200), meaning it only took literally a few dozen fights to take the battle from one end to the next.
So the 2nd was created by eIndonesia (yes, they paid again out of their own pockets), and we were about 5 hours away from the "training" period to end, when the battles were taken offline.
Maybe expansion into these unheld territories is an option, or did i mis-read this?...Man it irks me to have two thirds of Australia in Indonesian hands. Hopefully the future enables us to re-establish our old lands.
@Code-Y : You're new here so I'll forgive you calling us a 'little doggy'. In Australia, the term is 'dingo'.
But yes, we are little dingos who beg for Indonesia's table scraps. You might say by the treaty, we are a vassal state under some rather generous terms for vassalage. The new players need to be reminded that this is not a new game although they've only heard of it recently. It has been running for over a year now. And in that time, the balance of power has been irrevocably established. We are the dingo. Indonesia is the tiger. If we nip at its heels demanding back the territory that is rightfully ours, they will swat us. We were their slaves once. We gained our freedom not by fighting (although fighting is the game's only mechanic for gaining freedom ) but by diplomacy. For what is becoming more and more like a Warsim type game, it remains at its heart a game of Diplomacy. And our Diplomats such as Calibur, Zaney, and Cotis have been doing a good job playing that game. The only reason why we don't have the Northern Territory back yet is because the war system is blarked. If the Admins hadn't decided to break it by trying to improve it, we would have NT back by now... possibily Tasmania and South Australia as well.
Anyhow, diplomacy is a process that like eRepublik itself requires patience. Patience, young dingos, and you will have your scraps from the mighty Tiger of Java.
LMAO Dingo sorry XD But a pack of DIngo's can take out a tiger any day 🙂 If you catch my drift, Time to take up the cause, form alliances, and destroy indonesia!
I see a lot of old world thinking out there. I will admit to feeling threatened by the looming monolith of Indonesia but for the moment there is nothing we can do about it. We must bide out time.
Ok , and exactly what do you think the Indos will do when their spys start reporting that eaustrailia is trying to stir up trouble ?
Bilbarus
Take Indonesia from them. Yes I'm a newbee.
Look, I understand that diplomacy is important, but nationalism stirs in the heart of every Australian. Surely we could try to negotiate somehow with the Indonesians for more of our country back?
actually dingoes r quite friendly, and arent as violent as some might think 😕 unfortunately Code ur like other ppl that havent been here long, quick to fire the guntrigger and not use their noggin.
@Code- "A pack of dingos can take out a tiger anyday". Too bad we are only one dingo, as in singular, as in the loneliest pack ever existed.
This article has told me a lot about the current Australian Political situation. A big thumbs up from me!
Thanks for the compliments guys, not bad for a debut article. Now I need to think of something good to follow up with
also the wiki link in the article should work now.
A true analogy. A pack of dingos can take down a tiger. However, as population stands, there are four times more tigers than dingos. So yes, forming alliances is the answer to that. But forming an alliance with ATLANTIS nations will be poking sticks at the tiger's tail. I personally do not want to be living on the battle ground of the next world war.
Actually Crazy Quilt Lady, I'd bet that you'd find that many of those listed as Indonesians are infact Australian's. The game lists anybody living in a occupied territory as a citizen of the occupier. True even counting for that, the numbers will be in Indo's favor but it's not by as much as you suggest.
Talk of resistance throughout Occupied Australia threatens to halt and even reverse the gains we have been making to regaining our country.
Resistance War in NT re-starts in 2 days.
Get your weapons while they are cheap.
Prices are going to go through the roof in couple of days.
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when i signed up the other day and saw the occupation of eAust i was dissapointed but the time is not right for war. just like the french and portugese in indo-china the occupiers time will come
i will go to eIndo for battle.. see you in there.
I don't think you quite get the gravity of the imbalance here - Indonesia is literally the most powerful military force in the game - the US has comparable power, but Indonesia is still on top. Indonesia has fought large alliances and won. Even if we could get enough countries to care about Australia now, we'd have no guarantees of keeping them off once the fight is finished. There's no close neighbors either - Indonesia surrounds us on all fronts.
In short, we are tiny and insignificant. Indonesia could rip our agreement to shreds, take our free states back and not suffer any real consequences from it. Any alliances we make would have to be extremely swift and extremely well-connected, since Indonesia would have perfect grounds to shut us down if they heard of them.
This way is slower, true, but it will get our independence when everything starts working properly.
I don't think you quite get the gravity of the imbalance here - Indonesia is literally the most powerful military force in the game - the US has comparable power, but Indonesia is still on top. Indonesia has fought large alliances and won. Even if we could get enough countries to care about Australia now, we'd have no guarantees of keeping them off once the fight is finished. There's no close neighbors either - Indonesia surrounds us on all fronts.
In short, we are tiny and insignificant. Indonesia could rip our agreement to shreds, take our free states back and not suffer any real consequences from it. Any alliances we make would have to be extremely swift and extremely well-connected, since Indonesia would have perfect grounds to shut us down if they heard of them.
This way is slower, true, but it will get our independence when everything starts working properly.
Jesus Christ. why are we letting them do this? shouldn't we do something about it? can we do anything?
- A J Summers
Andrew,
We are doing something about it.
Diplomacy is the only viable option we have, and the Indos are willing to negotiate; we've already agreed on getting NT back and there will be more negotiations in the future.
Australia's independance is the most important thing to all of our polititians, going to war with Indonesia garantees that we will no longer have any.
So there has only been 2 RW's?
Ok!
The RW commences again tomorrow! The NT returns to Oz hands...
Thats brilliantly done.