Admins of eCanada IRC/forums: Do the Right Thing. Protect our Community
Day 1,148, 20:21
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by saltydog
Kronos Q and JFstpierre: Stop being afraid to protect the community.
Last night I banned Rolo Tahmasee and Wes Lewis from our eCanadian community, on the #ecan IRC channel. I banned them for their roles in defrauding eCanadians and stealing thousands upon thousands of our gold. Just like 1ronman got banned without a trial, so too did Wes Lewis and Rolo Tahmasee. And just like 1ronman, Wes Lewis tried to claim his account was misused by others. I banned them in order to remove 2 of the greatest sources of lies, fakery, snakery, and destructive behaviour in the eCanadian community.
A fitting description of the current state of our community forums and IRC channel
Today, jfstpierre, CAF member and an IRC administrator with higher access than I, removed their bans. JFstpierre let 2 criminals back into our community. An administrator, and someone who has proclaimed himself to be a defender of eCanada's legal system, allowed 2 of the worst thieves in our history to return to our community.
Kronos Q, CAF high command and the person with the highest level of administrator access on our community IRC channel, refuses to ban them. He gladly banned 1ronman from our community, and without any trial. Yet he refuses to ban 2 of the most poisonous individuals with eCanadian citizenship from our community. He refuses to throw out 2 snakes from our midst.
Can you guys take a joke?
Since I do not have an eCanadian forum account, and I have had myself banned from IRC by Danster and Francois in protest, I cannot appeal directly to the powers that be. The only power I have is to appeal directly to you, the members of the eCanadian community at large.
I appeal to the eCanadian community to do what it takes to rid ourselves of those who lie to us, use us, and steal from us.
I appeal to the members of IRC and forums to agitate until those who control our community act in a manner which protects the community from those who take advantage of it.
I appeal to the administrators of IRC and forums - Kronos Q, JFstpierre, Coda - to do the right thing: throw Rolo Tahmasee and Wes Lewis out of our community. You have the power to do so, and you have their wrongdoing upon which to justify it.
When those with power refuse to apply it in situations which so obviously call for it, the effect is a natural erosion of the respect for that power. Moreover, in our case, the longer we let these 2 snakes retain their membership in our community, the more distrust there will be between citizens, and between the citizenry and government.
Here's something to think about: why have we banned PimpDollaz for more than a year from our community, for keeping 500CAD in government funds wrongly sent to him, while we let Wes Lewis and Rolo Tahmasee get away with thousands of our gold?
Do the right thing admins. Stand up and help rid our community of the snakes that are destroying us from within.
Help us heal the wounds by removing the tumor.
UPDATE
If you still don't believe Wes Lewis wasn't working with Rolo Tahmasee...
Wes Lewis has been trying to act as though Rolo used him. He commented on this article saying "voted hard we can't have Rolo back on IRC", and wrote about how he couldn't believe what Rolo had done to him.
Funny. Wes Lewis voted "NO" to the question of "Should Rolo Tahmasee be banned?".
Looks like Wes got caught in another b*llshit lie.
UPDATE #2
The admins have heeded the will of the people and finally banned Rolo Tahmasee and Wes Lewis from our community.
When we come together, our collective voice is heard much louder!! Thank you for everyone who took the time to voice their opinion.
Last night I banned Rolo Tahmasee and Wes Lewis from our eCanadian community, on the #ecan IRC channel. I banned them for their roles in defrauding eCanadians and stealing thousands upon thousands of our gold. Just like 1ronman got banned without a trial, so too did Wes Lewis and Rolo Tahmasee. And just like 1ronman, Wes Lewis tried to claim his account was misused by others. I banned them in order to remove 2 of the greatest sources of lies, fakery, snakery, and destructive behaviour in the eCanadian community.
A fitting description of the current state of our community forums and IRC channel
Today, jfstpierre, CAF member and an IRC administrator with higher access than I, removed their bans. JFstpierre let 2 criminals back into our community. An administrator, and someone who has proclaimed himself to be a defender of eCanada's legal system, allowed 2 of the worst thieves in our history to return to our community.
Kronos Q, CAF high command and the person with the highest level of administrator access on our community IRC channel, refuses to ban them. He gladly banned 1ronman from our community, and without any trial. Yet he refuses to ban 2 of the most poisonous individuals with eCanadian citizenship from our community. He refuses to throw out 2 snakes from our midst.
Can you guys take a joke?
Since I do not have an eCanadian forum account, and I have had myself banned from IRC by Danster and Francois in protest, I cannot appeal directly to the powers that be. The only power I have is to appeal directly to you, the members of the eCanadian community at large.
I appeal to the eCanadian community to do what it takes to rid ourselves of those who lie to us, use us, and steal from us.
I appeal to the members of IRC and forums to agitate until those who control our community act in a manner which protects the community from those who take advantage of it.
I appeal to the administrators of IRC and forums - Kronos Q, JFstpierre, Coda - to do the right thing: throw Rolo Tahmasee and Wes Lewis out of our community. You have the power to do so, and you have their wrongdoing upon which to justify it.
When those with power refuse to apply it in situations which so obviously call for it, the effect is a natural erosion of the respect for that power. Moreover, in our case, the longer we let these 2 snakes retain their membership in our community, the more distrust there will be between citizens, and between the citizenry and government.
Here's something to think about: why have we banned PimpDollaz for more than a year from our community, for keeping 500CAD in government funds wrongly sent to him, while we let Wes Lewis and Rolo Tahmasee get away with thousands of our gold?
Do the right thing admins. Stand up and help rid our community of the snakes that are destroying us from within.
Help us heal the wounds by removing the tumor.
UPDATE
If you still don't believe Wes Lewis wasn't working with Rolo Tahmasee...
Wes Lewis has been trying to act as though Rolo used him. He commented on this article saying "voted hard we can't have Rolo back on IRC", and wrote about how he couldn't believe what Rolo had done to him.
Funny. Wes Lewis voted "NO" to the question of "Should Rolo Tahmasee be banned?".
Looks like Wes got caught in another b*llshit lie.
UPDATE #2
The admins have heeded the will of the people and finally banned Rolo Tahmasee and Wes Lewis from our community.
When we come together, our collective voice is heard much louder!! Thank you for everyone who took the time to voice their opinion.
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Voted hard.
Also, reinstate powerown64's halfops.
Voted.
If IRC chat logs can be used as evidence in eCan forum courts, eCan jurisdiction should include IRC.
If your banned on the forum, you should be banned on IRC as well. Why put up with the nonsense, its just a distraction and deterrent to going on IRC.
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First, Wes isn't guilty. We have enough evidences to show he isn't. If you just go with feelings, you just misunderstand the whole situation. (And may I be frank? I truly thought Wes was guilty at first sight.)
Second, Rolo was permabanned by Kronos Q and I agreed.
Period.
I would never have done this. .access add walnutz 5
If people want me to play dictator of IRC, I could do that, but until then I will still follow the rules we have put in place for ourselves.
Actually to clarify Rolo remains banned.
Wes Lewis former CAF'er and HC insider has however had full access restored. Including FULL ACCESS on the forums.
Who do we thank for this? JFstpierre of course. He's claiming it came at the request of the current administration, but no one in the administration I talked too seemed to know what he was talking about for some reason.
Don't let the CAF run roughshot over our country. They control IRC, they control the Forums, and with the sudden influx of foreign EDEN soldiers that have been granted citizenship they have the potential to also control the in game government. Add to this the fact that they "siphoned" money before the treasury was stolen (THANK GOD FOR THAT!) they also control the only sizable amount of funds available to any part of the government.
Seems to me that there's a group of people who seem to be holding all the cards. What are we gonna do about it?
jfstpierreDay 1,148, 20:25 First, Wes isn't guilty. We have enough evidences to show he isn't. If you just go with feelings, you just misunderstand the whole situation. (And may I be frank? I truly thought Wes was guilty at first sight.)
Second, Rolo was permabanned by Kronos Q and I agreed.
Period.
What evidence, stop hiding stuff from the eCan public and just tell us.
Ban them both.
Are all admins just naturally useless.
@Kronos
Why were you so happy to ban 1ronman without a trial?
Cause he was constantly trolling and being a dbag. He would have been banned right away if the ban was for the theft.
Maybe me and the CAF high ups are in cahoots so Wes would get Impeached and the CAF could militarily take over the government... This is like the old boys club patting each other on the back
Someone should get CSIS on that...
Pretty sad. And they wonder why there is no respect.
Rolo: I'm sorry, but CSIS is on that since yesterday.
powerown: As I said on IRC and now here, all the evidences were sent to the CSIS. If they want to make it public, they may.
Oh btw ... Wes' Govt Minister mask is removed. Cry or shout your joy. Anyway, that's not an Admin decision: that's to the current administration to decide.
I talked to the people in the administration. The closest I got to an answer was that you gave him his access as a way to apologize for something and they had no idea why he had it.
😁Well that would be inline with the big plan. No Anti-CAF or independents in the new regime
Now...on to that new budget vote...
Groovy
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I have seen no such evidence to prove that Wes isn't guilty, except for Rolo's post. if you believe rolo's post about wes then you should also believe that he didnt steal the gold when he says he didnt.
But then again, im just a citizen, guess that means shit now
Rolo is most definativly guilty of massive theft. I believe Wes is guilty of a lesser but just as bad theft. Should the unlikely scenario of Wes being innocent be true, he still is deserving of a ban given his handling and allowance of this incident to have happened. Ban them both and rid us of their toxin.
Agreed with Salty and Etemanski. (voted)
Lets stop being the patsy and put our foot down. Ban them. and don't give them the gratification of their irc enjoyment. Eventually, if we are lucky they will get bored and quit.
Personally, I don't give a crap about Wes' feeble excuse as to being hacked. Whether it was him, or he was so incompetent as to allow it to happen; deserves the same punishment. A lifetime ban from eCanada and anything to do with it in our power.
Vigilante justice? So be it. When the CP steals from his/her own government; basically there are no laws anymore.
Citizen B
Ban first, ask questions after. We're all sick and tired of this.
I'll 'sixth' salty, Addy, Etemenanki, CitizenB, and Fox Blutch. Each of these people have been deeply involved with the goings on in this community and if they feel we need to take a stand and begin imposing bans on IRC, then we'd better get on it.
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I'm with Plugson and his list on this.
Paroles de sagesse.
Ban first, ask questions after. We're all sick and tired of this. X2
Btw, while we're banning snakes, shouldn't B go too?
@ jtspierre
I don't fully believe Wes Lewis is innocent, i want to think he worked alongside Rolo. I don't mind if Wes Lewis still has access to the forums or the IRC, Rolo should have been banned long ago and he should be first.
I do believe you have some evidence to prove Wes Lewis' innocence. However, I hope it is some hard evidence because i will not be easily convinced.
But really guys, at least Ban Rolo from both the forums and IRC. He is confessing he stole and hijacked Wes' account. Even if it's not true, he should still be banned.
A ban can be reverse if we prove in the end to be wrong. Wes will be able to survive a few days without #eCan, can he?
"If" he was hacked, we can take no risk of letting him running around on our chann. It may just cause more trouble.
Believe it or not, it isn't just a mob justice. We are SICK and TIRED of robbers and thieves, we want action taken NOW, even if we have to apology later. If Wes is proven innocent, I'll be the first in line to appology.
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Loiselle said.
We have to stop letting them make a joke out of our community. Ban first, ask questions later.
voted.
agreed there should be consequences.
i'm interested in hearing JFStpierre's facts.
in any case, we need to stop giving CP's access to orgs.\
Either leave it in the country acct, or lets have some trusted bankers
I agree that they should be banned as well, and for the record, I still have ops, if people are so pissed about it (CAF ops), then fine, take it from me and let's settle this crap.
Teh Justice system in eCanada should be Guilty until proven innocent, it would be much more effective.
~Powerown64
Incompetent mods are incompetent.
Don't crap talk if you ain't gon do crap.
If I had the power, I'd banhammer them so hard that not even tachyons can strike as quick as I am about to.
Kippers has that right, if you have power don't be afraid to use it!
And powerown is right when he says they should be guilty until proven otherwise, its very easy to get things done that way
-WolfGang III
Rolo gave me a helicopter once so I dont write bad things about him
I really am confused...
We are SICK and TIRED of robbers and thieves, we want action taken NOW
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Well I would take action on IRC by banning... but everyone knows that some op or admin will call ABUSE ON ME... in some way or fashion....
Voted! Should be done
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I find all this ironic coming from saltydog...
Especially with that picture making fun of internet moderators.
If TCO didn't kick them out I'd choose not ban him and support a comrade. As I did in the vote whether or not to ban Rolo. I am officially mistaken now. He is banned from TCO, his niche is gone. Just remove them from the forum, give them a MT and tell them to GFTO of Canada.
I AGREE....danster and Francois should ban Saltydog.
"Btw, while we're banning snakes, shouldn't B go too?"
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"Teh Justice system in eCanada should be Guilty until proven innocent, it would be much more effective."
"in any case, we need to stop giving CP's access to orgs.\
Either leave it in the country acct, or lets have some trusted bankers"
"A ban can be reverse if we prove in the end to be wrong"
Ahhh so at heart we are all a militaristic right wing society after all. JOIN THE NORSEFIRE PARTY OF CANADA, WE PRACTICALLY INVENTED THIS