A Proposed Union of the United Kingdom and the United Netherlands
Aelar Vardamir Anari Eneibari
Some time ago, our governments began discussing the possibility of uniting our two countries. After finding that the idea was promising, the Parliaments were informed a few days ago. The idea has been met with great enthusiasm, but also a few practical concerns. In the last few days, intense and detailed discussions have been going on about this idea, and we have developed a detailed plan.
This is a very big decision, so we both need to discuss it as a country before deciding whether to do it or not.
Why?
Why should we Unite?
We'll be joined by more people, varied and interesting. It'll be fun. We'll also benefit economically by having a bigger job market, goods market, and currency market. Our united military would be a greater force on the world stage. Together, we'd be worth more as an MPP ally, and would therefore likely get to participate in more wars. This Union would work well as just about everybody in it can speak English, although we probably wish to support those who would not.
What are some worries?
We are worried that potentially this would allow our enemies to use resistance wars against us. I believe that our pooled strength and the help we can get from our allies should be enough to deal with this particular problem. Indeed, resistance wars in small regions would potentially give us a fairly cheap way to get training wars.
Practically speaking, the unification would involve destroying the UNL's current hospitals: however we hold several hospitals in stock, enough for our immediate needs. The monetary loss would be about 700-1000 gold collectively, in Hospitals not sold.
Some have worried that with an influx of more people, it will be harder to achieve a seat in Parliament. I believe that would actually be good for the Country, however, as we would have a higher quality of legislator.
Details
To merge, we would have to fight a "fake" or "Training" war. In order not to leave the new Union without an MPP alliance with Russia, we would begin by having the United Netherlands ("Netherlands" in game) attack East of England, activating our MPPs and cancelling theirs. We would then be able to counter-attack. Since this would be a merger, if the battles were to go poorly for the UK side, the President of the Netherlands could retreat. The exact plan would depend on the circumstances at the time. The whole process is likely to cost about one to one and a half thousand gold, in Declaration of War cost and attack costs.
Our political system would change significantly from this. It is most likely that our parties would merge with theirs based on ideology. This would change the relative sizes and adjust the ideological inclinations of our parties.
The draft constitution (below) names the Union as the "United Kingdom of Belgium, Great Britain, the Netherlands, and Northern Ireland". If desired, we could change the name to a better one, should a better idea come along, by amending it. If we unite, we will assemble a list of suggested flags for the Union and ask the Citizens to vote on them. Hopefully this will result in a good flag.
The merger of our government's Ministries would be a complex process, but we are confident that our Ministers will do it well.
A particularly complex detail of this proposal is the currency. The Ministries of Finance estimate that there are 240 thousand NLG in private hands: it would be unfair not to replace those guilders (they would become unusable after a merger). The Ministers have, however, come to an agreement of how they would do it: They would make 4 separate offers at gradually cheaper rates, selling Pounds (which we'd have to print) for guilders. The idea would be to make those in a hurry to get GBP have to pay a little more, and avoid too sudden a shock to the pound currency market. I am given to understand that the rates at which the currencies would be traded have been decided, based on the current exchange rates.
The eUK forum would become the official forum, and the enetherlands.nl forum would become an archive as well as possibly a local governance forum.
We might want to legislate a Local Government for the United Netherlands, to avoid alienating some more patriotic citizens: I would listen to the opinion of the UNL citizens on this question, although I worry that it would get in the way of unity.
Constitution
As the Dutch and Belgians learned, when entering into a union, we need to know what the terms of the union are. Therefore, we have to agree to a Constitution that sets down how the Government and Parliament will work, and sets down the rights of the Union's members. One of the rights is the right to read important documents and announcements in your own language, so below our proposed constitution is in three languages:
* English
* Dutch
* French
Comments
Go UK
Go UNL
Go UKBGBNNI
Go forward to Glory
A rather long name. Can we become the United Kingdoms or the Three Kingdoms?
Furthermore the exchange of NLG to GPB will help the rich. They can wait. I think a fixed rate like the UNL did with Belgium and only for UNL citizens/companies will do far better, I think.
Also Belgium could be a different part of this union. Why to say to merge with UNL? Part of Belgium is now outside UNL.
This is great news 🙂 Nice reporting Aelar.
I support this, the training wars (if there are any) will give us something to fight for, win or lose them.
I reckon during the merger would be the moment the US & sweden decide to attack
Our first move should be to kick the Yanks and Romanians out of Belgium.
Awesome!
Go UK
Go UNL
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I think this is a potentially good idea. Those who remember our union with Belgium will know that a lot of those guys are stand up people. This could breathe some life into the both nations, and together we could stand stronger.
There are obvious pitfalls, but it is good to see the politicians carefully consider this from as many angles as possible
My condolences to United Netherlands. Why anyone would willingly join with eUK is beyond my understanding.
Cool, maor your base are belong to us.
were going to attack before that, but i guess we could wait until then. prob not tho.
Awesome idea...do it!
I was going to suggest that this is eSuicide, but actually it would rather that the netherlands may actually just be the most emo country in the eWorld, beating out even Indo after its recent suicide attacks on malaysia to gain attention.
Theres no other explanation I can think of for that amount of self inflicted agony.
what a great idea!
Do it please !!
Definetly!
STRENGTH THROUGH UNITY
Go right ahead.
We'll rule as three kings.
lol at the netherlands. they just can't do shit alone. Need a union for everything
Seems a jolly good idea. Resistance wars will be tricksy, though. Might have to wear a few lost regions in the medium term.
Go for it.
great idea. i look forward to the union. perhaps we can legalise cannabis in the eUK too?
"if the battles were to go poorly for the UK side, the President of the Netherlands could retreat"
If? You mean when. Also Belgium is free and about to get a lot freer! The UNL is really screwing the pooch on this one.
@Tacitus Arkenseale: Belgium is occupied by Romanians, they do not give citizenship. It is martial law there. Is that freedom for you?
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I think you are only bringing in EDEN propaganda.
why not just have a firm alliance? why lose our identity?
Northern Ireland?
w00t?
Has everyone completely lost their minds?? I can't believe what I'm seeing here.
Sounds good.
what would happen to the navy. would there be mergers involved or would there be separate forces?
Wow this is a stupid idea.
Brilliant idea! Union Of Britain, Ulster and the Republic of the Netherlands.
UBURN
SUBURB
Superior Union of Britain, Ulster and the Republik if the Belg-netherlands.
I think it's an awesome idea. Strength in numbers, and nobody can really have anything against the Netherlands or Belgium. It'd make us all a more prominent force in the world and let us actually do some things which have an effect.
Great idea 🙂
don't call it the united Netherlands call it something else like the united Alliance i don't know
How will everyone get eUK citizenship >_>
Go UKBGBNNI... bit long, maybe change to United Kingdoms
Go UK
Go UNL
This... is not going to end well. You're clearly underestimating the will of your enemies to piss in your cereals. If they want to recreate the Netherlands, they will. Your combined strength will not be nearly enough, nor will you muster enough allies to protect you. It will be a very short empire, especially since no MPP can help you protect those regions in case of a real war.
In theory a good plan, but in practice it's terrible.
Great this is what we need as a nation, more competition and more players, the government has done us proud
Bad idea.
Thats just not smart you idiots..
Great idea, hope it goes ahead.
Great idea, hope it goes ahead.
My suggestion for the name of the country: NEO BRITTANIA.
Anglo-Dutchawesomelegalisedganja-sauce!!
How about:
The United Kingdom of Great Britain, The Netherlands, Belgium, Northern Ireland and Berwick-upon-Tweed
or just:
The United Kingdom of Great Britain, Benelux and Northern Ireland.
Just wondering, will the Netherlands have to conquer our regions for this to happen, or will we take theirs?
How I read it: eUK takes control of the regions of the eUNL.
'The United Three Kingdoms' as a possible name?