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Filled it out, go feds!

(also, it might be easier if you hotlinked your link.)

hyperlinked, thanks

choc you suck i said that...but yeah feds rule woot!!!

Do people have to be members of the party in-game? I'm a member of the UIP, but I have Belgian citizenship and leave the US frequently because I'm in the military, so I'm not an in-game UIPer. Is it still cool if I fill out the form?

Great idea. I like the form except for the last question, as we Libs (TAMA) do MUCH MUCH more on the IRC than on forums.

Honestly, i hate filling out useless forms. My party leader isnt gonna make me fill out any stupid form either. So basically your plan would reward the most servile party.

If I had a vote in congress, I would vote No.

Doe, that's fine. I'm going to do some cross-referencing with the official party lists. I might create a formula to devalue your party membership some, but there is no way around this apart from verifying each and every person who is not an official member of a party and that's just too time-consuming.

char, point taken.

also, forms dont help retention. if anything they discourage ppl from playing.

@Dante, the form will do nothing. But what the parties do to get the gold will. That's the whole point.

There's just too much going on to keep track of all the newbs, but parties have an interest in having more active players in their party. Why not reward them for trying harder and keeping active players active?

Nicely done..
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The parties success is indicated by the success of their politics. They arent meant to be kindergartens. That's the job of the organizations financed by congress.

How bout we make those organizations accountable and make their funding dependent on their success?

Because "party success" doesn't make the eUSA itself strong.

If parties can boost the retention of active players (i.e., those players that at least have the potential to continue playing the game) then the eUS can count on more mobile voters to counteract PTO attempts, more citizens living in fortress states, more tax revenue, and stronger armies, all of which can be achieved through increasing active player retention.

It would be much more advisable to use existing organizations or set up new organizations that wanna help newbs and have them compete against each other in attracting new players or retaining existing players, and depending on their success reward them with gold.

Make your formula, advertise the competition publicly, and reward the best organizations.

Party members arent gonna be retained by filling out forms. People are in parties because of politics. Im not in the politics of satisfying some govt program that gives out gold to the most numerous clickers of forms.

I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I think the thing here is that the program as I have been designing it is beneficial to both the party and the eUSA, though for different reasons. The reward of gold alone is not enough to make people of good-will increase their efforts to retain more "active players."

Parties already have an interest in retaining active players. The gold is merely an extra incentive.

If you wanna increase retention, lobby for increased funding of the Arm America program. That's the only program in the country that is actually doing something for me.

The "clicking of forms" is the best and most efficient way I can think of to record how active a party's members are. If you can think of a better way, I would be interested in hearing your suggestion.

Arm America encourages the use of the forum. Every time I ask for my guns I see newbs post in that thread for the first time.

Once a player is using the forum, he'll be much more inclined to continue playing. Arm America is great and shouldnt be messed with. It is providing a fantastic service.

If you can encourage people to use irc, then you'd retain more players.

But forms are not the way to go. The main reason I quit the TC is because they were asking me to fill out a form every day. My attitude is just tell me where to fight and leave me alone.

For reference, this is a form to be sent out every 2-3 weeks.

So this form that would come every 2-3 weeks would retain players?

You'd have a much better shot at retaining players if you sent them porn every 2-3 weeks

Geeze Dante

@Dante, you don't seem to be getting the point. THE FORM DOES NOTHING. THE CAKE IS A LIE.

What matters is what PARTIES do to get and retain more active players. What they will do is beyond my knowledge, but, for example, the FEDS already have great programs, which is one of the reasons why they have ascended to a Top 5 party.

The parties can use the gold they receive to pay their recruitment directors, or pay for advertising, or to pay their officers, or to fund their militias. Whatever they do, it will help to retain players. Every aspect of this proposed program is a "win."

Just don't get hung up on the form, for the form itself does nothing.

@Neal

That is my entry for the competition. Let's see whose approach retains more players.

Im not filling out a form. Im already active.

Inactive players wont fill out a form because they are, well, inactive.

So what player is gonna become active due to this form?

Your approach rewards parties for their members listening to orders. I have much more important orders to follow from my party and I will not take on new useless ones.

Your approach would boil down to this: parties would have to send PMs to their membership every 2 weeks about them filling out this form.

So you would burden parties with extra msg'ing, like we dont have to do enough of that already.

The members of my party would then receive that msg and in the best case they'd laugh at it. In the worst they'd go to a party that doesnt bother them with things that waste their time.

@ Dante, the FEDS have taken this burden and have increased their membership. In the last couple months, they went from a #6 party or greater to a #2 party. Of course it is a burden, but it pays off.

Besides, "taking orders" is exactly the kind of player that we need in America: one that fights where he's told, moves where he's told, buys what he's told, and gifts whom he's told. If you prefer anarchy, that's fine. But the eUSA is strongest when its citizens are the most obedient.

Dante, I don't want to get into it, but your party, "SEES," is really not the prime example of party politics at its best. It appears as well that newbs aren't interested in it either.

Also note the rankings.

Is it any wonder which party is doing better?

@ Dante, the FEDS have taken this burden and have increased their membership. In the last couple months, they went from a #6 party or greater to a #2 party. Of course it is a burden, but it pays off.

If this is such a great program why dont you keep the program at your party? Thanks, but no thanks.

>Besides, "taking orders" is exactly the kind of player that we need in America: one that fights where he's told, moves where he's told, buys what he's told, and gifts whom he's told. If you prefer anarchy, that's fine. But the eUSA is strongest when its citizens are the most obedient.

Your proposal does nothing of the sort. Your proposal encourages mass msg'ing every 2 weeks for doing something that will annoy any active player. The inactive ones wont even respond.

&gt😉ante, I don't want to get into it, but your party, "SEES," is really not the prime example of party politics at its best. It appears as well that newbs aren't interested in it either.

Says your formula. My POWER RANKINGS are more accurate than your formula btw.

>Also note the rankings.

Is it any wonder which party is doing better?

The POWER RANKINGS say SEES is #1.

Nice kid.

I lol'd. Also, I like this idea.

Wow Dante... chill out.

I'm active. I filled it out. No harm done.

Active eRep players can fill out forms like nobodies business. The goal of this thing doesn't appear to be retention, but rather measuring retention. I don't see what the big deal is.