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Great article boss o7

Thank you, Hank. Thanks also for your help in pulling this scheme together. I should have mentioned this in the article above.

well stated, agree all the way Boss o7

Thank you, Paulus o7

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I agree. o7

Pointless, the amount of cash you are talking is nothing in the grand scheme of things. I don't want my taxes wasted in such a way...

In what other manner would you like to see taxes spent?

Combat Orders,, the new MU Boosters, Training ground loans, Training Contract loans...

60 tanks a month for a MU is nothing. Some fighters go through that in one round...

Well those will still be implemented. The government will still have the vast majority of its money to spend as it see's fit. What WRP is suggesting here is just a small something but as Huey says any small gesture will be greatly received by those who run MU's. It's just a small way for the government to help its fighters, something we don't see happening actively at the moment.

What WRP are suggesting is pointless and we simply cannot afford it, unless we drasticly cut down MPP's (seeing as that is our main expense). We can't afford little goodwill gestures, little cash money pat on the backs for doing what MU's signed up to do anyway. If you can't afford or are struggling to supply than simply alter the way you hand out resources rather than attempt to seek 'quick fix handouts'.

The Government helps as much as it can without sticking its beak into MU affairs. It gives you Orgs to use, it sets the odd CO, supplies tanks for battles every now and again, it hands out gold loans to fighters looking to toughen up. We have a private military for a very simple reason. The player base is richer than the Government.

I'm afraid we'll need to disagree, Wayne. The WRP believe the Government could do more and this scheme is one way. While I've heard the argument that if we spend Government money in any other way than we've always have we'd need to drastically cut down MPPs I'm afraid I've just never seen the evidence.

In terms of the "odd CO and supplies tanks for battles every now and again" I see this something which could be 'in-built' in Military Units with the scheme outlined in the article above as opposed to a sometime 'overworked' MoD or CP's Office.

The Government can distribute the wealth of our base of citizens to every citizen more fairly. To end of a light-hearted note "Come of Wayne let your inner 'socialist' out!"

Do the maths Huey, 12 MPP's cost 120,000cc a month. 4 weeks in a calender months is 28 days. At an average of 4,000 a month we earn 112,000. Not enough to cover, should we have a decent month we might make 5,000 a day. Thats a tasty 140,000 a month. Take away the 120,000 and it leaves us with 20,000 for the month. Less then a 1,000 a day for TG and TC loans, CO's and irc supply tanks as well as giving MU's cash?

More fairly? We all start with the same amount of resources and the same options open to us. It's skill and time spent, that play the important part in the 'wealth' divide, I'd rather you didn't rob from everyone to give to a few...

The maths tell me we can afford the scheme as it'll will cost less than 20k a month and the current system of TG and TC loans, CO's and IRC tank supply could be just as well managed and further distributed to more citizens by the MUs of the UK along with the Government.

I'd hardly say the current system of TG and TC loans, CO's and IRC tank supply also doesn't provide only to the few...however that is the nature of taxation only a few can profit thanks to the many. If you are against 'giving' anything away why support the current system of Government 'wealth distribution' as a oppose to additional MPP or lower taxation?

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This is a game and the people running the country have little care for the fighters that fight for them (unless the members are their mates) ( I guess most come from Tory families ), In other games the government make sure fighters get food and guns and some form of HELP, this is what I have been saying from the beginning , good luck Huey maybe you can press your message though, we need more socialist in this country too many capitalist counting worthless gold, the idea should be one for all and all for one ,people need to start working out this is a computer game stop being tight stop wasting money on mpp and have a laugh, like I create in other games , cost that the guy I am 🙂 happy gaming boys and girls !

You say that you want to reward active fighters but only ten days ago your parties' congress member, G Walker, proposed increasing weapons tax from 1% to 10% how was that supposed to help active fighters?

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A value added tax increase from 1% to 10% on weapons would not actually make a significant impact on the market price paid by 'active' fighters on Q7 weapons as it's a very competitive market. As a Q7 weapon producer I'd make a considerable profit if I didn't donate around 112 to 160 a day of my Q7 weapons to the Free British Irregulars. It's this profit the WRP wish to tax. Those selling Q7 weapons can afford to see more of this wealth distributed by Government.

Hope this response helps explains the WRP viewpoint.

You say that the government already has enough money to give some back to the MU' s so why do you need to tax raise taxes?

Most of the players large enough to have Q7 weapons factories already supply a unit or a party with weapons and jobs so why penalize their success and slow their future development by taxing their profits. You also assume that prices will remain stable as they will continue to sell their excess production in the UK many have already changed their citizenship to benefit from larger and more stable production bonuses so they can continue to supply their units. If those that haven't already left produce less than they could overseas and pay more taxes in the UK why would they stay? In the recent wars we have all seen the dramatic effect on prices due to supply and demand, what will happen to UK prices if large producers move out?

Players who produce weapons below Q5/Q6 already lose money any tax increase would also adversely affect them, but those weapons are needed by low level players where It's the cost per kill for daily orders not doing the maximum damage that's important.

An active player can gain an extra 135-140 strength per week from the weekly challenge but gaining the number of points needed would simply be too expensive for most non-gold buying smaller players, even with the help of an mu supplier, using Q7s (1600points assuming a generous avg of 5pts per hit is 320 hits, 32 Q7 at £20 = £640 or 107 Q3 at £1.2 = £12😎 even allowing for the extra energy needed low level weapons are far more cost effective to complete the weekly challenge. Your increased taxation would stifle production of these weapons and deter players from buying in overseas markets to sell in the UK for a profit. Again Simple supply and demand would then force up weapon prices across the board and slow players development.

I'm afraid I just don't agree with your assertion that increased taxation would stifle production of weapons and deter citizens from buying in overseas markets to sell in the UK for a profit significantly or cause producers to switch their citizenship however it would increase the money available to Government significantly.

The value added tax increase from 1% to 10% on weapons was just not solely linked to the scheme outlined in the article, the WRP want to see a Government willing to work with, trust and invest more often into the citizenship of the UK and fair system of taxation would help this.

Your whole argument is based on the fact that your HOPING the MU leader gaining the cash will distributed it somehow the fighters.

Surely if you want to help befit the active fighters equally and fiarly, The only ways to due this would be to being back Weapon give aways on MOD articles and of course using the cash instead on CO's for battles.

I will never be happy with any argument that involves giving tax payers money to a few select people and hoping they do what others think they should

Yes it's reliant on the trust MU members place in their Commander. The WRP are great believers in trust tempered by prudence as oppose to dis-trust tempered by fear.

I've placed a great deal of trust in the Commanders I've chosen to follow in the past and have not misplaced it. I think most fighters have trust in their Commanders else why would they remain in the MU.

The WRP also have great confidence in all MU Commanders, 2nd Commanders and Captains to do what is right for the UK and the government should recognise and support this resource as they build their respective MUs.

Im sure the WRP also had trust in former CP's too but that didnt turn out too well. Lets be honest the most fair way to target active fighters with cash and tanks is call to arms re-instatement and Co on battles. Theres no risk invovled, no trust needed and it directly helps and targets the active fighters. CO's have the added bonus that people can buy food and the Q of tank they wish. rather than having tanks and no cash for food to fight on.

Might also help teach and train young people to control damage and direct it to where needed, when its needed and not just damage dump which we can all be guilty of sometimes.

There really is no need to have MU's act as the middle man when there are more direct ways of getting it done

The scheme you've outlined has merit N W G however I still believe the WRP scheme outlined in the article has more merit so I remain steadfast behind our scheme and will continue to push it on the national agenda.

However I'd and I'm sure all in the WRP would welcome your scheme as a friendly 'rival' so to speak as it is undoubtedly another fair way to support active fighters/MUs, something I feel we've seen a lack of recently.

If the scheme you've outlined gathers more support than the WRP's who would we be to argue with the will of the people.