[UKPP] Thank You
Sir Nick Griffin
Fellow Members,
Thank You kindly for placing your support with me in the Party Presidential Elections. Sadly, and quite possibly to the detriment of the Party, I lost the election.
The votes were as follows:
Dannyboy - 44
Sir Nick Griffin - 42
An Account of Election Day
During most of the day, I was ahead of Dannyboy in votes... strangely, this trend suddenly shifted and Dannyboy managed to stay 1 vote ahead for most of the night. Every vote I gained, Dannyboy strangely got another. This continued all night; well past 3am.
A Story of Corruption and Take Over
During the evening, I was alerted to the fact that certain TUP eejits had hijacked the election and were asking TUP members to jump party and vote for Dannyboy. This was evident throughout the day in shoutboxes, but also from my informants within the TUP.
During this time, I was rather annoyed that this election was becoming another farce... I hold no blame on Dannyboy, but on outsiders and political nobodies and possibly certain cohorts that linger in Danny's shadow. Dannyboy has been nothing but decent to me since we first spoke. Anyway, at about 2am I decided I had had enough, therefore I messaged a few people who were online and asked them for their vote... I offered 1 Gold in return... I had 1 person accept the offer.
Another myth that had emerged during the elections is that I was trying to buy votes for 400GBP each... this is nonsense. I was running a recruitment campaign on the night of the election and offered 400GBP as a gift to all new members.
Getting back to the story - the TUP were without a doubt involved in the fixing of the election. If you want some idea of how many people were involved, check out the elections page (Party President elections) for the last 2 months. You'll find that last months elections had 73 total voters, whereas this month 102 members voted... that's an increase of nearly 30 people, who, as far as I can tell, have miraculously appeared in our party and then vanished into thin air.
I do not appreciate outside influences in UKPP elections.
Finally
I would like to thank everyone who voted for me, I haven't been as active as I'd like to have been but I certainly still put effort into the Party and have been watching its progress over the past few months. There needs to be a conference, there needs to be a solid manifesto, we need to work out what we stand for. And in the meanwhile, we shouldn't sell out to anyone. Not TUP, Not ESO, Not UKRP... no one. We have always made our own way, our own decisions, our own policies, and we don't take sh** from anyone.
Good Luck, Danny.
Best Regards,
~ Sir Nick
Comments
You don't talk about the fact that you offered 1G to people who could vote for you.
Before accuse others : Admit the fact that you tried to buy votes to win.
This is why im not going to be in any political party from now on. This game is slowly making me want to hang up my boots and become a two clicker. (well a few clicks more) Its a shame that politics is corupt and i hate the fact that there is a lot of talk and puffing before an election and then you here nothing untill the next elections. I know i dont go on the forums but it may be beneficial to think of the little guys who dont by posting something on here ever once and a while.....Rant Over
I see a change has been made to the article, re: offering of gold....
Let's just get thing straight Nick.
You're accusing those who organised Dannyboy0014's campaign and his election day team of bringing in votes from other parties. Yet as you have been told, and as you will be able to discover if you ask any of the parties, not a single offer of Gold, GBP or weapons were offered for any votes. Any "external" votes that fell in favour of Danny, did so because as fellow UK citizens they saw him as the more valuable candidate to lead the third largest (cont.)
party in the UK.
On the other hand, you openly sent offers of Gold and Q7 weapons to people for their votes as confirmed by several of those that were offered and the other major parties. On top of that, you decided, at 11pm at night, to start running recruiting messages that just happened to offer 400GBP as an incentive. Now, I'm not going to make any accusations there but I think everyone can appreciate the real intention there.
The long and short of it is that you were absent (cont.)
from the party for *several* months and turn up a matter of days before the PP election and assume that the work you did several more months before you left somehow qualifies you to be made PP.
And, to top it off, you further perpetuate and encourage the division between UKPP as a party and those members who remain in the Navy, encouraging MU influenced politics which are no longer relevant to the party. Not to mention that several of them continue to refuse to acknowledge that the (cont.)
moderate element of the party are the now the majority.
@ kravenn & knee, i already included about the gold... I have not edited it since posting.
@ ergo, who made it the second largest party?
It certainly wasn't your complete lack of activity for the past few months that made it the second party. Those of us campaigning for Danny's votes were recruiting too so you can quit your attempt to claim the glory.
o.k. then if you people are sticking up for TUP, tell us how the votes were accrued then....
@Matt just except the loss and lets all get ready to get involved.
@Nick I think that if you cared for where the party is going in the future and where it is now then you wouldnt have put out a very bitter message further creating and fueling a divide in the UKPP. You would have just got ready to get involved again and help the UKPP get ready to grow
You wrote "Thank You kindly for placing your support with me in the Party Presidential Elections. Sadly, and quite possibly to the detriment of the Party, I lost the election."
Nick I have never seen or heard of you until I left the RN and I was active in both UKPP and the RN for the last few months. The above statement is absolutely despicable coming from someone who states they would like to see the party go forward. If that is your feeling Nick the party would be far better off without you
Richard, I have been mass-messaging for the past few days... regardless of the outcome of the election. The election is not important, but the involvement of other parties is worrying.
Nikola, I'll reply to you later.
I think you'll find our voting power ranges from 80 to about 110.
Apr - 96
May - 95
Jun - 111
July - 87
Aug - 73
Sept - 102
So the number of votes while high, are not abnormal.
'Sadly, and quite possibly to the detriment of the Party, I lost the election.'
I take offence to this! Since your hiatus the party as gone from strength to strength. We have a damn sight better say in eUK politics and an improved say with regards to the country....
'And in the meanwhile, we shouldn't sell out to anyone. Not TUP, Not ESO, Not UKRP... no one. We have always made our own way, our own decisions, our own policies, and we don't take sh** from anyone.'
What are you implying here Nick? The only difference nowadays is that we actually talk and listen. We still oppose that which is shit and support that which is good. You need to stop listening to those voices in the back, cuz quite frankly they know fuck all, and have done fuck all.
Matt Timmins wrote:
"o.k. then if you people are sticking up for TUP, tell us how the votes were accrued then.... "
The mention of other parties is a smoke screen... last month's low of 73 voters aside, there is usually about 90 voters on average (with a little swing). In light of the fact in the UKPP thread that Nick admitted to "recruiting" 10 new people (and no doubt gold exchanged hands) then there is your answer....
The fact is Matt, Danny has been active and courting votes within the party for a while and that is why a lot of people voted for him. And his winning number of votes isn't even a record - a few months ago Garth got 69, the month before that Alfagrem got 63....
The fact is, the most popular candidate won fair and squarely. Sir Nick is doing his usual complaints of conspiracies whenever he doesn't get his own way. Despite being runner up, expect Sir Nick to undermine the winner as he feels...
he has a divine right to be the leader of the party although we are not quite in North Korea territory... No doubt when the list of official congress candidates, Sir Nick will try to parachute in his own people to prop up his own empire.
Put the RN v DC MU thing aside for a moment and watch Sir Nick - do you want a leader who will undermine and stab his colleagues in the back for his own ambition? You might have wanted Sir Nick as leader, but do you think this article complaining that...
I didnt admit to recruiting 10 new people. But I did recruit on the night of the election. Those 10 members could have been floating voters, which is evident because the member count has been changing nearly every hour since the elections.
Wayne, I apologise over that comment. The point I put across is that certain people in danny's team were causing problems for everyone on my side... Ergo springs to mind. And the latter comment about not selling out was not aimed at anyone in general.
everyone who didn't vote for him is some sort of traitor etc, improves the image of the party?
Nick asked ergo above: "who made it the second largest party?". The answer is "Mr Gold and Mr Pound"... And despite thinking he alone was responsible for the increase in membership, I'd give a load of credit too to Alfagrem who was very generous in his supplying of the 7th Armoured Division (the unit prior to the RN) but a condition was joining the UKPP (and its previous form). A lot of people...
joined then too. Not all the rise was purely down to the charisma of Sir Nick....
certainly not.. but to view me as a new bloke who doesn't/hasn't do/done anything for the party is very ignorant. From the minute I released my intent on running I was harassed by the likes of Ergo and others claiming I hadn't put anything into the party... when clearly I have.
Nick, no one was stating that you havent. In the >Past
I would also like to add that at the same time as you got the party back to second in the eUK this is not just an individual thing (although you have a gift for it!). The UKPP's recent image has/will continue to contribute to this progression in both size and influence.
ARGUING GETS US NO-WHERE!!!
Sir Nick since you left UKPP has become a respectable party in eUK and some people have even called it the model party, They are better off without you