[Treian CP] A message to Congress
Treian
eCanadian Congress members
I am writing this article for one purpose only.... to inform you of your proposals and the votes being cast.
First off, the donation. This is an approved donation and is in need of a YES vote from you. We are trying to get our MU's better equiped with companies to help them become more self sufficient. Voting NO means you do not support our MU's and our soldiers. So VOTE YES.
Second is the NE vote. Cerb, the eUSA CP and I have reached an agreement to swap some land for resource bonuses that will help us both. We want this to go though so that we might get some weapon and food bonuses to help our production. VOTE YES to this unless you're against us producing more in all our industries......
Now the new congress is being voted in as we speak, I want to say congrats to all who are about to be elected and I ask this of you: Please be active and participate in all the votes and discussions in the forums here: http://www.ecanada.cc/forums/index.php and please look at what the votes are for before you vote blindly.
In the next few days we'll be having some exciting things happen so please keep yourselves informed by participating in the forums.
Cheers!
-Treian
eCanadian CP
Comments
Almost congressman approved!
So, most MUs have had months or even years of suckling at the government teat, and they still can't meet reasonable self supply targets... So naturally when past and present Congresses have spent us dry, many of you think this is the time to just hand out our limited gold, buying a Q5 for Congressman Jacobi and friends?
The rest of us actually work and save up our gold for companies... That this government then steals for what? To parcel out to special interests and cronies?
Speaking of taxes when are these thieving "Wartime" tax rates going to be repealed? Even the training war is over after all!
As my last act as a Congress member for this term, I proudly voted against this latest gold transfer to a non-government org!
Goran Thrax
Goran- CoI is slated to get gold in the ammount requested by your MU's leader, should that one also be voted down when the time comes??
We are trying to help each MU with their self supply, and I reject the notion that these MU's have had years to save up for this.
As for taxes, they are at reasonable rates, have you checked the budget at all?? We cannot even supply our soldiers with this current tax rate. We are working to strengthen eCanada as a whole, what are you fighting for???
PS- Thank you for visiting the forums and participating in the discussions on this topic and being informed...... perhaps a post next term to show some activity?
Oh treian, I post on what's important. The vast quantities of hot air posted there, rarely qualify. Had you looked closely you would have noticed that not only did I argue to keep those tax hikes reasonable, I used my proposals to enact the compromise approved by the Speaker. Next time, don't insinuate inactivity without cause, I posted more in the first three days than more than half of Congress bothers to in the whole month. let he who is without sin cast the first stone, I remember your long absences... I've voted in every vote that had any force and effect, namely the ones that happen in the game.
"Goran- CoI is slated to get gold in the ammount requested by your MU's leader, should that one also be voted down when the time comes??"
Yes, they should all be denied, but since most of Congress will want their little taste, the government is going to liquidate more valuable resources... I'm mildly pleased to see that the graft will at least be spread a little more widely than usual this time.
As for taxes, they are ludicrously high, but then so are our funding rates! Congress spends more than we take in, a balanced budget would be a miraculous occurrence I'd like to see. So according to you we should spend even more, even though we are no longer at war... What about rebuilding our cash reserves? Oh, right that requires spending cuts but Congress won't keep getting reelected if they shut off the money spigot.
How about this compromise, I'll let the government keep stealing 100+ CAD a day from me, (none of which I ever see again) for the next month without complaint. As long as all revenue for the month is spent making the MUs capable of self supply. Then at the start of next month the government slashes taxes and spending by 75%. Or should I start looking for slaves and just cut my ties with this tax and spend economy entirely?
Goran Thrax
Hey Goran Thrax
Why don't you just go die? Do you honestly thing people can "self supply" them selves with Q5 weapons?
lets see, 120 CAD per day wages, 720 CAD per gold....
Heck, it'll only take 2280 days of wages for the average player to buy their own Q5 and self supply - Now that sounds like a plan!
or we could just give out the fake imaginary gold we have and get the ball rolling a little faster
PS - How much funding do YOU receive daily from being a member of the CoI?
The discussion in congress never did reach a conclusion. This is a few interests trying to jam their own interest through with no real vote or consent. A fancy PM/media campaign that followed no procedure. Treian's own post in the thread was basically saying 'hey lets jam this through in 3 hours'.
^ Aeriala - get real
This has to be done before the company upgrade promotion ends
Hey Treian - Next time don't be such a noob and Executive Order the donations. Then when hypocrites like Goran Thrax who sucked on the Government tit for years as a member of the CAF get all "noble", you can slap them with a nice ban for the next time they sit in congress...
Aeriala- First off my 3 hour time line was already in place with the 24h discussion that was happening, so I didn't spring this on congress with only 3 hours to talk it over. I posted up the 3 hours to go in the last donations clock so that congress knew it was time to move on it.
Rolo is right
Goran needs to realize this is a game and the moment we play as if we are at peace is the exact moment we deserved to be wiped from the map
"...what other explanation is there besides brain damage or criminal level stupidity?"
Jacobi o7
^ It bears repeating.
Treian o7
Goran Thorax : "As for taxes, they are ludicrously high."
Indeed.
eCanada = Communist heaven
http://www.erepublik.com/en/country/economy/Canada
Will other MUs receive their Q5 weapons company, or it's just another Jacobi's attempt to get a Q5 weapon company paid by the government?
Jacobi, "I am willing, have been willing, to pay it back in entirety as can be seen in the debates."
I guess this also bears repeating as, it's interesting that you read and commented on his article but failed to remember that he said this, just a few short minutes ago too! 😛😛
There are other MU's who will be receiving funding like this as well.
HOPE was the first, CAF will be, CoI will be, and TCO also.
This is an attempt to improve eCanada's national force, all our MU's are our strength in this.
So you're also giving Q5 weapon companies to CAF, CoI and TCO?
@Myst Forever
Some people talk about a "loan", others talk about "funding". The situation is not clear to an outsider eye.
^ I see, I see..... get it? : ]
"outsider eye" I see.... Ok you had to be there! :{
Could the old bond program be resurrected and retooled to provide quick funding of these types of special projects?
Or is that a dumb, but not on the level of brain damage or criminal level stupidity, idea?
"old bond program" = best way to be stolen 🙂
Rolo, first, you are a thief, therefore your questioning of someone else's supplies, is laughable. But then again so is your support of this program, you just want to get Gold from the government for TCO you couldn't care about anything else.
As for supplies, I never was heavily supplied, I was never a tank, I received supplies during the heavy fighting, but rarely at any other time. You are welcome to ask the CAF about that, I was always one of the least supplied senior officers and haven't received weapons from the CAF or the government through any program in a year. In the last few months, the government has recouped from me all the money ever paid on my personal supplies, and then some through these taxes as VAT cuts into the company owner's profit margin, rather than raising the price these days.
As for CoI, I work in a slave pit, and I'm paid in weapons for my work. I don't get any special supplies even for important battles from CoI, I supply everything I need to fight including any weapons I need beyond what I get paid.
I have taken out a private loan from another player, plus put my own gold toward upgrading my companies, and I will have a Q5 weapons company shortly. Then of course, I'll be paying the loan back. Also, your calculations are faulty, based on the premise that a player can only earn money from working for someone else, they could never ever earn money from selling the produce from the companies they got for free for example.
Crisfire, I've always known this is a game, and I treat is as such. As a consummate game player I also know that in times of peace, you save up for war, which we are not doing. We are blowing through funds handing out guns when food is cheaper, hand out food and fight barehanded if you really want to fight. Save up several million CAD for the next war, it's coming. Also screwing our own economy and players, to hand out guns to the players with violent tendencies is a loser strategy long term.
Goran Thrax
Goran Thrax o7 o7 o7
I'm not in TCO Thrax - I wear the Cog as support
I'm in CSD, we get no funding
Rolo- Not entirely true.... we're not GOV funded.
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