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[Thomas] On Norway

Day 1,884, 22:42 Published in United Kingdom United Kingdom by Thomas765

Hello there,

As it has become slightly apparent that the executive wanted war for the sake of war, to fulfill the carniverous needs of others to use rockets for the UK and not for allies despite having a training war with Ireland just over a week ago, there has been some debate - albeit political - about why Norway was chosen as our latest target.

Advice is something that should be taken in and considered before doing anything. I stand personally on the position that any war should've at least had a few days discussion. As far as it goes, however, it seems like this idea of an invasion of Norway was only an idea that was put into action impulsively on the desire to have war once again. Why do I say this? Firstly, it striked me when neither of the current Ministers of Foreign Affairs actually knew about the war.

However, advice is something that can go fatally wrong. The reason why I say this is that our CP says NEing Norway was the advice of TWO. This is probably the only time our CP has even considered the advice of foreign affairs people, mainly because it was in his interests but it was never considered that two days later we'd have three fronts open as a result of the war and perhaps two more fronts to be established later. The Netherlands, a country who has been our ally in the past, who has never bothered itself with the UK for many years, has decided to join in. Russia, who told our CP that they were fine about the war, may join in. France, who are currently winning a resistance war in Picardy, may join in. It was never considered that these countries would get involved, simply trusting an enemy nation based on their word.

We now stand somewhere that we have tried so hard to correct, where every natural border we possess with countries in this game are enemy nations or we have angered in some way. We shoved off Belgium in December. Norway was sitting by as a neutral nation to us. Germany are fond of Asgard and treat them as allies. France may be wiped consistently but they are still our enemy. The Netherlands may be wiped a lot of the time but are friends with Norway. The USA is joining CoT as a trial member but they have some serious reservations against the UK. Canada is Canada. The Irish population despise our CP. Yet it is not actually clear if anything will be done to solve this issue. We are screwed if the alliances shift again in their favour but it's okay if people want to use their rockets in January 2013.

Fondness of Scandinavia

I feel as though I should do some explaining on why I said I would refuse to fight against Norway. To clarify, I would only fight against Norway when their regions are under attack from us or they are trying to get their regions back. They may have the ability to attack our home regions and they have every right to do so.


I have had a fondness of the Scandinavian region ever since becoming a Swedish citizen in February last year. As a member of Nationalgardet, I supported some of their policies, one of which being the formation of a Scandinavian alliance, which is now known as Asgard. I still hold my Swedish friends in high regard. I respect them as a nation on the whole. While I was there, Stakerauo had managed to convince me that Norway was a lovely country, which it is and I fought for their political independence at the time of PTO through battles with Finland and Russia, who were helping the country out. Thus, I had my reservations in fighting against a country I respect and admire. The same cannot be said for Canada, where I would happily fight against. I have been fond of Scandinavia ever since I was there myself and I will continue to be fond of Sweden and their neighbours while their nice, little community continues to exist. Sweden was our ally and that may not be the case now but I would happily go back there.

We all have countries we admire, like or respect... and countries we hate, dislike or don't respect. Norway is part of the first group for me.


What this whole incident with regards to Norway is respect. We are in this for "fun", we are told. "We". Norway are simply trying to get on and exist after months of PTO and PTO threats. "We" expected to simply walk over Norway with blatant disregard and diplomacy being thrown out the window. "We" expected this to be a walk in the park, a simple invasion of a country just over a tenth of our strength.

Final words

As an act of respect, I want to say well done to Norway for winning - or at the time of writing, close to winning - Sorlandet. You took on a nation ten times your strength and managed to win against heavy alliance odds. As far as I can tell, our government's expectation was to wipe you with ease. There was no other plan.

I'd hope that there will be some serious considerations over future wars in that we should not expect to win them immediately. Don't become what we are fighting against. In our opponents eyes, we are the evil of the world - TWO/CoT/ONE/Phoenix/PEACE. By believing that any opponent smaller than us can simply be stamped on and spat on, we are becoming EDEN. I hope valuable lessons will be learned not only for the administration but for the country in the future.

You got your war.


I don't really go out of my way to write a critical article on things but having every neighbour as an enemy due to the foolish act of one person is quite significant. Ultimately, this'll turn into a political bawwfest, so I'll end it here.

All in all it's just a...nother brick in the wall


Update 1: I was just told by a member of TWO HQ that the war with Norway wasn't actually approved by anyone in HQ. So this seems more and more like a simple "We can defeat them so war time" thing.



Thomas765 Day 1,884, 22:43

A boring person who actually likes to think outside the box.

surferdude Day 1,884, 22:47


Piran Day 1,884, 22:53

Good article Thomas o7

Kain Propan
Kain Propan Day 1,884, 22:56

BA continuing to fist the eUK beyond repair and the drones continue to support it.


Rylde Day 1,884, 22:56

In Asgard we trust!!!

Mikhail Alexander
Mikhail Alexander Day 1,884, 22:58

Good article, I respect your opinion and decisions. We all may have an alliance but when it comes from personal experiences and friends, there are just some countries we won't fight against.

Piran Day 1,885, 23:10

lol ^

Joshua Morriseau
Joshua Morriseau Day 1,885, 23:22

Voted! You can't just expect to run over the little guys all the time. Glad to of done over 5million damage to help Norway tonight.

JeguljaM Day 1,885, 23:36

Leave Norway alone!

Asgard Vikings brings their axes!

Thomas 4 cp.

Slapface Day 1,885, 00:11

Asgard Vikings assemble!
Hai Thomas [:

ilphen Day 1,885, 00:20

good read. 🙂

Death and Taxes
Death and Taxes Day 1,885, 00:23

Vote for the boring person

Maze Putin Stalfitta
Maze Putin Stalfitta Day 1,885, 00:25

Hail Thomas
Asgard vikings greets you to Scandinavia

nimnul Day 1,885, 00:35


Mr Woldy
Mr Woldy Day 1,885, 00:50


War3hous313 Day 1,885, 00:57

mice point.

Slirus II
Slirus II Day 1,885, 01:05


Niemand Day 1,885, 01:09

Well said. o7

Spite313 Day 1,885, 01:35

Well we were trying to lose that battle, but agree with the rest

Thomas765 Day 1,885, 01:36

It was MoD orders and, as I'm told, TWO orders.

Danie Fox
Danie Fox Day 1,885, 01:40

TWO didn't advise us to attack anyone either : /

nutty fox
nutty fox Day 1,885, 01:42

voted because a good article. atleast the rockets were used 😃

Kain Propan
Kain Propan Day 1,885, 01:42

atleast the rockets were used x2


Madacaion Day 1,885, 01:57

@Iain: It was MoD orders and, as I'm told, TWO orders. <- Truth, orders came down from above my pay grade to win it.

This article sums up exactly how I feel about the current situation. But i'll be damned if I do nothing.

Wolf Henrich von Helldorf
Wolf Henrich von Helldorf Day 1,885, 02:13


Duke of Flanders
Duke of Flanders Day 1,885, 02:33

UK laughed at france when they were given up by any nation, because they changed their mind too often and were too selfish, but BA's UK is doing the same now, and if they don't look out, they will end just like france.

Prince Andrei
Prince Andrei Day 1,885, 02:46

Nothing wrong with attacking Norway, but the way in which it was done has much to improve upon. No one was notified, not congress, not even many parts of the Government 😛

nutty fox
nutty fox Day 1,885, 03:15

i love this diplomacy / politic aspect of the game and as in RL sometimes big fails creates chaos for a shorter or longer times. even I'm a really young citizen here learning a lot by reading quality articles as yours. hopefully i will achieve same standards in the future with my news paper.

McAfee01 Day 1,885, 03:45


john GB
john GB Day 1,885, 04:11

V&S and agree wholeheartedly!

Maegalodonus Day 1,885, 05:31


Dux Tenk
Dux Tenk Day 1,885, 06:30


vif12vf Day 1,885, 06:45

For the glorious eNorway,voted

Sean MacDiarmata
Sean MacDiarmata Day 1,885, 06:50

Very good article, voted

MR. HANK SCORPIO Day 1,885, 08:35


Thomas765 Day 1,885, 08:43

Update 1: I was just told by a member of TWO HQ that the war with Norway wasn't actually approved by anyone in HQ. So this seems more and more like a simple "We can defeat them so war time" thing.

intyala Day 1,885, 09:50

Well I like UK and I will not fight against you if you don't attack Asgard nor Norway. : )

Stakerauo Day 1,885, 10:43


BigAnt Day 1,885, 11:22

Update 1: I was just told by a member of TWO HQ that the war with Norway wasn't actually approved by anyone in HQ. So this seems more and more like a simple "We can defeat them so war time" thing.

Incorrect TWO gave UK green light to hit, and that we talk to russia first, which i did

Was this HQ member Kravenn trying to save his own arse?

klop123 Day 1,885, 12:30

^funny time to just be told

AFTER you lose ^__^

Niemand Day 1,885, 15:10

BA it seems you must be busy saving UK's arse isn't it? Or you are drinking and having fun? Last thing is the best. It is only a game. ^__^

Allea230112 Day 1,885, 17:10


Danie Fox
Danie Fox Day 1,885, 17:11

TWO never told us to attack anyone, I've spoken to multiple members of HQ. They wanted us to wait. You can see from the leaked logs from only a week ago they thought we'd failed enough already:

"BigAnt[UK][CP] No action for UK
Mininuns[SC] ones in charge of the MU's (just remembering) ^^
Mininuns[SC] BigAnt[UK][CP], you guys had action
Mininuns[SC] and failed"

Bernard Hoffington
Bernard Hoffington Day 1,886, 02:49

This is completely irrelevant. If you spend any time in any nation, even your worst enemies you will learn to love them. Have you seen 'Dances with wolves' and 'Avatar'?
At the end of the day, the enemy is still a person.
So defending this enemy is the same as defending Canada or France. They're nice guys too.

surferdude Day 1,886, 19:10

I think that the Attack on Norway was a great idea, however, the timing was extremely bad. We needed a time when there were no extremely major battles going on for other allied countries.
plan = good
timing = #$%@ed up

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