[TC] UK wants to annex Belgium? Tony Clifford's BIG NO!!!
Tony Clifford
Tony Clifford's BIG NO tho UK's annexation of Belgium:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2319679/1/20
On the Belgian forum, Mittekemuis, sent this letter to the Belgian citizens. Here my reply.
Letter from Mittekemuis, British subject, who styles herself as "Queen of Belgium":
Greeting my loyal servants
Look at this pretty sight! It is truly the United Kingdom'S
As Queen of eBelgium I must say it heart warming to see. I have been living in exile for way too long.
The Great Countru of eBelgium needs its Queen back and I am prepared to take the reign once more.
On a serious note.
The eUK is giving you your regions back. We were never enemies. Things happened we had some fun fighting but our countries have been friends and good neighbours for too long to let this get in the way of that. I do however see that eBelgium is a divided community. A small country that is at best a ping pong ball for Cot to play with. A small community easily overrun by malicious groups who pray on situations as this.
I know that seeing your country being occupied with another country is no fun but I really want you to consider to leave it that way; Become part of The United Kingdom'S. I hear you thinking what about congress, what about participation in government. The UK can offer a percentage of its congress seats to eBelgians. It is easy enough to create a eBe-party or just join one of the Top 5 parties and arrange people to be in congress.
Leaders, strong players, experienced players are ALWAYS in short demand. If you are worried about not getting any chances in The United Kingdom'S think again. the eUK is not THAT big. For the young ones there are more players available for helping them.
A merge would also mean an even larger gaming community. More fun! eUK have a very large gaming group outside erepublik. An awesome MC server, Supremacy games, steam players...you name it we got it. Again an added value to becoming part of a unity.
I hope you don't toss this offer aside purely on Nationalistic pride. Take this chance for a more variable and exiting experience.
~ Queen mittekemuis
My letter to the Her supposed Majesty:
Dear supposed Queen of Belgium,
for some of Her supposed Majesty's points in the letter:
1) On Circle of Trust (CoT)
- CoT never used Belgian properties or armies without the consent of the government of Belgium, CoT always gave the maximum help to Belgium in every anti-PTO action authorized by the government of Belgium.
- Cot always respected the special friendship between Belgium and UK: CoT never asked Belgium to wage war against UK (for example CoT acknowleged Belgian impossibility to sign MPP with Indonesia, when Indonesia was Airstriked by the UK).
- Every Belgian citizen saw in these weeks that Belgium has been a "ping pong ball" more for UK than for CoT. UK attacked Belgium and wiped without even trying to talk to our elected Country Presidents.
2) On small malicious groups
- During my stay in Belgium I fought against several malicious group in Belgium.
I actively fought, at least, against Macedonian, Iranian, Serbo-Croatian PTO attempts. Help came from countries like Macedonia, Russia, Croatia, Chile and USA.
- On the contrary, during UK aggression of Belgium some Belgian officials, oddly among the friends of Her supposed Majesty, willingly or unwillingly boycotted the defense of the Country.
If there really are some malicious groups in Belgium , which follow foreign interests instead of those decided by the elected officials of Belgium, well, I cannot exclude that these groups may be based on UK itself.
3) As for the proposal of the letter
- UK already established that its "friendship" towards Belgium is exclusively one-way: UK reserved the right to intervene with military force to influence the politics of the elected officials of Belgium, even if Belgium itself has always acted friendly towards UK, both in its own right, than in the CoT alliance (for example France (historical enemy of UK, Poland, Spain) has been admitted into CoT's trial stage only after the UK's aggression on Belgium,[/b]as before Belgian governments had showed strong reservations on it).
- UK already conquered by means of force the regions of Belgium and already conditioned the independent foreign policy of Belgium.
An eventual merge with UK would put Belgian citizens in strong minority in the UK, making them completely submitted to the UK will.
I refuse that Belgians became mere subjects of a foreign Country.
If you really were the "Queen of Belgium", and not only a British subject, you would agree on this.
by Tony Clifford
loyal and active Belgian citizen
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P.S.
I have been many times in the last year in official positions in the government of Belgium: I have been Country President, vice-Country President, Minister of Defense, Minister of Foreign Affairs, I hold many vice-Ministry positions, I have been for several months assistant Military Commander of CoT for Belgium.
In the Belgian State Military: I have been Captain in all the three regiments of the Belgian National Army, and now I am 2nd Commander of the Awesome Boot Camp.
In the Belgian Politics: I have been several months Party President of the All Togethers Party and of the Union-Unie Party, I partecipated to many anti-PTO operations and managed several of them.
During all that time, Her supposed Majesty, you have never been Belgian.
My greatest satisfaction has been the repulsion of the French aggression on March this year, mainly because the operations were managed by four citizens that I personally introduced in Belgian politics: Alexandross (CP), MisziPL (MoFA), Beaver Juice (MoD), JdlF (MoF).
I define myself a loyal and active Belgian citizen.
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Tony Clifford's BIG NO tho UK's annexation of Belgium:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2319679/1/20
Comments
MiauTOOLONG
i'm re-.cutting
you re-should ;p
better?
Indeed!
Tony: Mitte is the Queen of eBelgium., just look in the historical records out there.
I don't understand your anger?!?!
It was a suggestion for much later after this war-mess is settled and even then it is clearly stated that such a merge as a separate matter.
She insulted our alliance and she argued that the country that invaded us is a good friend to merge with.
I explained that CoT has been by far more friendly than UK in 8 months, that UK abused of Belgium naiveté instead of being friend and that I want Belgium to mantain its independence.
http://www.erepbelgium.com/t3857-down-with-the-monarchy-accepted
Sorry, i should have said "was".
But your statement here: "Her supposed Majesty"
This statement makes it sound as if she never was the queen.
That is one of the reasons why your article sounds so angry and hateful.
well, i am a little bit angry with the british, indeed.
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First : Next time, if a country really want to discuss about a merge with another country, he's got to do it when both have their own territories, not when one is under the control of the other. That canno't lead to a normal debate leading to equilibrate conclusions. Really, the way this is happening is not decent.
Second : Please, UK citizens (no matter your previous citizenships), stop thinking at our place. If you feel good in UK, fine, but don't tell us what to do. You want our territories, let's fight. That's it.
tl; ar.
with respect
ebelgium = CoT
eUk = TwO
nothing to add.
Totally agree, with you tony I'm totally against us being annexed by eUK
How do you come to the idea that this SUGGESTION(as the proposer says herself) is a hostile act.
Annexation???!!! where did that came from.
Something like that shouldn't be proposed as a suggestion...
HAIL QUEEN MITTEKEMUIS ! 🙂
You know what your problem is Tony, you take things way too serious.
Role playing Belgium once crowned me. Hell it was fun at the time. We old fags like to joke around with it.
Second, this idea I wrote here is travelling over many months, the same as the resurrection for UNL sometimes gets picked up again.
Yes I have still friends in eBe ofc why not. I am RL Belgian after all. I even help eBelgium with things. I think some can confirm I recall an Iranian PTO...
I should hope so that CoT has been friendly if not, it would be silly to stay in an alliance. Besides this has nothing to do with CoT nor TWO at this point. This is planting an idea to discus not to put a knife on someone throat
HELL YEAH, HIRASAWA! XD
i would prefer one article for all here with title : suggestion.
All are not going on the forum Mitte. I have nothing against eUK, but the goal od the countries are different. I'm thinking about persons who like to fight with CoT. A poll maybe before.
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Elynea, I have put something on the public forum. It is not in a secret place it is open for everybody who registers on eBelgium forum. I don't see the problem. Besides, I don't know how you guys can go from a semi serious forum post to a serious matter in a matter of hours.
You of all people know that serious business does not see the light of a public forum unless government has done some negotiations.
i went on the forum to see your post, i know it's a suggestion, but for the population who are not going there, they are suprised : )
It's not a criticism, it's just a fact. If you see the comment of Jeiry for example.
Well, it's not that i take things too seriously, is that i dont' like people talking about Belgium or taking decisions on Belgian behalf without even knowing WHO belgium is NOW (i sayed "who" to say "which people form belgium").
I know you were crowned queen, but if you had payed attention on what has being going on in Belgium, you would now that this title was stripped from you: http://www.erepbelgium.com/t3857-down-with-the-monarchy-accepted.
If you knew about Belgium, you wouldn't have said that Belgium is "a small country that is at best a ping pong ball for Cot to play with", an extremely insulting sentence towards countries that in the last year did for Belgium a lot more than UK (which used Belgium as is backyard with this invasion), even if UK has been taken in greater consideration in Belgian policies.
You can't pretend to know Belgium, or to justify decisions taken against Belgium, just because you are RL Belgian, or you have old friends here...
The joke about the role play is lost on you I get it don't drag it out it doesn't look well.
Don't I recall UK and Poland come to aid on request of Belgium?
As far as I know those are TWO founders and call themselves friends of Belgium.
Grow up Cliffe. This is international politics and no one really cares about your feelings. IF you do not like it, you can move or you can quit. You are in a small country and you have to deal with it. You are a ping pong ball and there is nothing you can do about it. Just deal with it.
Sorry, but only users granted special access can read topics in this forum. 😛
van Spijck: Belgium abolished mitte's monarchy a looooong time ago (before I joined Belgium)
Good articles as usual...
Anyway, this has been fun. Now I will just walk away from this because its not worth spending more time on.
Belgium is a sovereign State they do what they want 🙂
Good luck with the RWs if they turn epic I will fight to free Belgium.
Sorry Mitte. I completely lost my confidence in you during your last presidency. So yes, please get over your personal wishes about eBelgium and let it go. Be it smartly wrapped in a fun RP or not.
Have fun in UK.
Cliffie you nailed it again. Voted hard!
BIG AND HARD VOTE!
BELGIUM IS NOT PROPERTY OF UK!
There will come the time, when you will be in this situation. Oh, wait, you were. Remember Argentina? When Loland camed and rescue UK. You cried like litle babies. 😉
But, Belgians, do not cry, we FIGHT for our COUNTRY! for our HOMES!
LONG LIFE BELGIUM!
Nobody cried for Argentina, nor Poland. 🙂
Serious: Once there were talks of the United Kingdoms. Itr was eBE, eNL and eUK. Fun place it could be, but it failed to nationalistic reasons.
Once there was UNL, it worked for some time, sadly French speaking citizens had a too difficult time.
Once there was a merge between eUK and eBE, great time it was.
Maybe some time in the future fun can be, but only when people of all sides like it.
Have fun! o/
so basically, CoT used you, or tried to, to invade Slovenia, we asked nicely for you not to, you refused, technically we are at war because opposing alliances, so we launched a war.
Mitte makes a joke, and you baww about it.
You never asked.
"we asked nicely for you not to"
Oh look, our CP, the BELGIAN CP, said that you NEVER asked.
To whom to believe?
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Please don't get me wrong on this one, if the AS was safe for eBE I would have agreed. On that point I just asked for the feasability of this AS and the position of eUK and ePL regarding this AS. But I didn't even know the target. Nor did I really care until the eUK NE.
o7
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big vote stop the UK.
Voté, je suis à vos côtés. o>
Lol "queen of belgium "
Hail CoT
Hail eBelgium
BIG AND HARD VOTE!
BELGIUM IS NOT PROPERTY OF UK!
Hail CoT
Hail eBelgium
Congrats Belgium on making the right choice! We will fight next to you to kick the perfidious albion back where they belong! On the other side of our sea! o7
Tonny Clifford ftw
"No one loves his country because it is great but because it is his"
regards from Paraguay, another small country, but proud being able to help
together we stand o/
Hail CoT!!!