[tBRE] Voting accounts: a plague of eRepublik politics
Tony Clifford
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[tBRE] Voting accounts: a plague of eRepublik politics
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2256062/1/20
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[tBRE] Voting accounts: a plague of eRepublik politics
Tomorrow (or today
😛) is an election day, so I want to talk you about an election-related event that I called "voting accounts".
Let's see what they are.
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Ordinary days
In ordinary days, erepublik is played by two types of players: "2-clicks" players and "involved players".
2-clicks players are those players who usually log in eRepublik and they just work, train and fight for their Daily Orders. Sometimes they read also some newspapers.
Involved players are those players who not only work, train and fight, but are also involved in other activities.
Involved players may be involved in running a Military Unit (as Commanders or Captains), they may write articles, or they may be involved in politics, becoming Congressmembers or Country Presidents, or working as Ministers in the government.
Involved players are also usually active in chat and in off-site forums.
The two types of players seem a lot different, but they have something in common: they play the game!
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Election days
Well, in election days not only 2-clicks players and involved players log in eRepublik. There is also a third type of accounts logging in: i'm talking of voting accounts.
Voting accounts are those accounts that log in only in election days, and their goal is only to vote for a particular party or candidate. Sometimes they're fake accounts (they're controlled by another eRepublik player), sometimes they're not.
What it is sure is that voting accounts don't play the game, BUT they vote. They don't play, but they decide the destiny of the true players.
Is it fair? Is it democratic?
What I think: no, it's not.
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Example: Belgian elections
Let's see a simple example (I have others
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These are the results of the last Belgian Congress elections.
What's wrong with that?
Simple: let's look at the daily activity of the members of each of these parties during ordinary days and during the election day.
Table1.
Number of active eBelgian players for each party. Day 1983 is the election day.
Do you see something strange?
Let's go into detail
Table2.
Average number of active eBelgian players in ordinary days for each party, and difference with the election day.
Day 1983 is the election day.
As you see most parties have the same amount of active players in both ordinary days and in the election day.
There is only one exception: HOPE party!
HOPE increased its activity in the election day by 14 accounts, which corresponds to an increase of +70%.
Those 11 accounts are not active during ordinary days, they don't work, train or fight. They log in only in election days to vote.
It is not finished. Let's see what happens when considering Military Units.
Table3.
Average number of active eBelgian players in ordinary days for Military Unit, and difference with the election day.
Day 1983 is the election day.
Here we see the same situation as before.
The only Military Units that increased the number of accounts during the election day is the HeadHunterz.
12 accounts, which corresponds to a record increase of +144%.
For people who don't know Belgian politics, the HeadHunterz is a Military Unit in coalition with the HOPE party.
No surprise, isn't it?
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Results
As I showed you before HOPE party received 38 votes in Congress elections, but approximately 12 votes came from voting accounts.
Voting accounts don't work, don't train, fon't fight: they don't play. But they gave HOPE party 3-4 more seats in Congress.
In Country President elections these accounts may be even more harmful: they constitute the 10% of the total vote, and so a Country President may be elected thanks to these votes.
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Conclusion
My conclusion is simple: the people who control and use voting accounts SHOULD NOT be helped by anybody.
Are you a 2-clicks player? Are you an involved player?
DON'T JOIN AND DON'T VOTE FOR THAT TYPE OF PARTIES
THEY USE ACCOUNTS THAT DON'T PLAY THE GAME TO ACHIEVE POLITICAL POWER.
What's EVEN MORE terrible, is that once they gain power, thay don't even know what to do with that power. Why?
Because if they don't work, train or fight: THEY DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS TO PLAY THIS GAME.
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by Tony Clifford
Roundings were performed on these data. Arithmetic operations using these stats may results in slightly different numbers than those shown
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[tBRE] Voting accounts: a plague of eRepublik politics
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2256062/1/20
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Comments
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The numbers never lie.
Bullsh** the numbers and the data come only from your computer your pirate copy program exell from microsoft is more crazy than you
The data come from egov4you.info .
With this reply you say more about yourself then anything else.
Please G.W. I expect more then shouting lies from you. Don't think he made lies about figures everybody can check that makes this article strong.
NO VOTE propaganda for 5 mai of course as allways
Funny coming from you.
Voted, cheating is for the weak
explanation with screens from egov is needed
Unfortunately, the world is not fair -,- Keep fighting!
how do you see their activity?
Nice analysis, Tony Clifford. egov4you is not biased, and it is open for everyone to use if you want to verify the data.
Very nice analysis, I'm impressed that you make an article about it.
I'll be looking foward more analysis from you !
I was bored&annoyed of those people talking on behalf of "the people" or "the clicking mass" and so on.
those people have less support than they claim...
Good analysis, nice job!
i sew that in the last days, i was checking several profil in party. A lot of gamers haven't one work medal, and they are on the game since a long time. It's funny to see their participation and where they stay, in which country.
But to be honest i don't think it's only in one party.
This is like an article written by Sherlock Holmes. Good Job Tony !
Sad but true not only for eBE. Great article.
Especially sad as I was HOPE member while in eBE.
Great article and hope to see from these articles.
shouldn't be too hard for the admins to use the egov data to ban the voter accounts as they are clearly not playing the game as intended and are most likely multies anyway. Just check who these accounts vote for and you can ban the mastermind(s) too.
The problem with that is, as long as it's not a multi, a "voting account" isn't breaking any rules.
I can get a few friends to sign up and play til they get Adult Citizen status, and toss them a text message whenever there is an election. They're not multi's, and they're not breaking any other rule.
Talostatic is true. It is legal to do so.
On the other way it is perfectly legal for me and all the other true players to fight against them and inform the community of their presence.
Don't forget to read comrade Tony Clifford's TBRE
where have the data for table1 and table2 come from (actually all the data for the whole slandering article)? a thin air? and tbre used to be quite a nice unbiased paper.
egov4you.info , just checked, they are right.
there is just homepage with some TWO article. i've meant some solid evidence ...
The numbers are there if you look into the site. It just takes a little time and effort to find them.
to take time and make efforts to search for the numbers against our very own m.u. i'm in? to seek proofs to support tony's weird accusations against us? u can't be serious ...
egov4you.info is no proof of anything
egov4you is the best proof available for citizen, party, country and MU statistics. If you think the numbers are wrong, why do you think searching it would be against your MU? It should help you prove him wrong if he is.
let's say ima lazy slob and cba to search for them, if u dont give me exact link (not only the vague homepage address).
well it's not realy like that. presumption of innocence it is. i don't need to bring proofs that i'm not guilty. i'm surprised that even u ignore this basic principle.
I'm pretty sure you're not such a lazy slob. But this is not a matter of presumption of guilt or innocence. However, for your benefit, I give you the link to the MU page, since that is what seems to concern you. http://www.egov4you.info/unit/overview/1831 It would take a bit of clicking to find the activity of each citizen in the MU, but this is a start. With this, I also found your personal information here: http://www.egov4you.info/citizen/overview/3233198, which btw clearly shows you are not showing up only on voting days.
cheers for ur effort mq. these links (mucho more of those) r what should tc put in his article if he've meant it seriously
That's what they call a headshot 🙂
I didnt know being active only on politics days was a crime.
"Because if they don't work, train or fight: THEY DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS TO PLAY THIS GAME."
This game is not about working, training and fighting, at least for me.
I'll finish by telling you this : maybe hope and babyboom (I don't think we still have those but w/e) have friends only there for the election, but that's not a reason not to vote for us. At least we didnt do any targeted PTO, we didnt get your name and picture for disgusting purpose, our article and answer were always corteous etc,...
TC, you stole the eBelgian treasory in case aVegan would be elected... That's showing how not democratic you can be. You're not in a good spot to judge H.O.P.E. (just another disgusting act NOT COMING FROM AN HOPE MEMBER)
We're on the opposition, that's clear for me. Yet, HOPE and Babyboom are by far the cleanest party out there. based on fact.
I'm happy to be able to stay a bit away from this game right now. It's quite sad that most of the GOV is only here for the CP medals(hi mispl), not for eBelgium nor the community.
The forum is full of hate, eBelgium is divided and so few seems to actually care.
Well, you care about your powerbubble, that's clear. But you're not trying anything to solve the current issue.
Anyway, I didnt like your article but I guess that's normal eh ?
Alexandross at least did a great job as a CP, we had article, the fun-project was promising (even if the war interupted it ? I guess...)
I'm sure beaver will do the same if not more. eBelgium will still be shit none the less : p
You are right, these voting accounts are perfectly legal, but are they really clean and democratic? I can tell you, I have heard people in my RL community talking about our national elections and they didn't even know who was running or what they stood for, but they knew which party they were going to vote for. That's democracy, but not a very functional democracy. The trouble with voting accounts is that they could decide the fate of actual players without having any idea what is going on. That being said, I hope you will not give up on the game, that you will continue to participate in the community. Not everyone is out to get you, and if you state your opinions clearly and reasonably, at least some of us will hear you.
"we didnt get your name and picture for disgusting purpose" ; haven't seen Junior's articles?
GW junior used RL picture from your members ?
Who did it? Kylero? Dont generalize either then (:
Tony is by his past experience in a good spot to judge about H.O.P.E. who are hereby yet again proven to be using questionable tactics to gain power. They have in fact and by far the dirtiest political elements of eBelgium within their ranks. Those people are A Vegan, Vincent Pain and shadowukcs. They have all cheated the community and at least two of them on several occasions.
If anything, Tony finally gave you the necessary proof to demonstrate that any campaign against Babyboom was unjustified as your in game behaviour is no different from the players in traditional parties.
Nice perspective Tony. For which other countries did you gather the data ?
I've CP elections