**Special Edition** Battlereport Day 631
Lucius Varenus
Let me take it from the top.
Why we ordered to ignore the battle in Asturias:
This decision was reached in consensus with our allies.
We knew Asturias was lost the moment France attacked it - keep in mind that PEACE got 16k gold for free the other day and was ready to pour it all into Asturias.
Actually from a practical point of view they've gained 32k gold, because Spain lost 16k.
Every point of damage we would have done in Asturias would have been wasted.
Still we had our Marines standing by the whole time to hit in Asturias if a victory would have come into reach.
We agreed with our allies that they would fight in Asturias, trying to keep PEACE's focus on it, and we would try to win at home in order to go on to the offensive.
This is what separates us from e.g. the Hungarians and their success - even their citizens listen to their leaders and follow orders without questioning them or doing what they please.
Our strategy to go on the offensive
Retreat in Delaware just before Pennsylvania ends and win in Pennsylvania. This way Portugal would have been blocked for 24h.
From here on we could have either retreated Ohio and went on the offensive against Portugal immediately - because of the illogical region alignment and bordering Russia would have been blocked - or tried to win Ohio first and go on the offensive on both fronts.
What happened?
We retreated Delaware and won in PA - when the counter hit 0 we were way up in NML.
But the battle didn't end - the server decided to keep it going. It was going on for another 10 minutes, the whole time way up in NML, until Portugal decided it would be a good idea to attack another region and retreat the battle in PA (already won by us). That way they could stay on the offensive.
The following screenshot clearly proves that we retreated Delaware and won Pennsylvania afterwards, which should result in Portugal being blocke
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Personally I will report the president of Portugal for violating eRepublik law 6 and 6.1:
6: Each player is required to immediately report any system exploits or critical errors they find to the game support.
6.1: The use of a system exploit is disallowed. Also disallowed is any act which gives you an undeserved advantage against other players
I encourage you to do so as well, if you believe his behavior violated those rules.
Don't get me wrong, this should not serve as public accusation. It will be up to the admins to decide if this was abuse or not.
What else happened?
Besides battles not ending, the admins decided to correct the illogical borders that have been around for years today of all days.
This results in OH finally bordering PA and enabling Russia to be able to further advance, instead of being blocked.
The admins have been bugged for months to fix the illogical borders, but they decide to do it today of all days?!
We would have finally been able to turn the tide in this war - we had a strategy and executed it perfectly, but our plans got destroyed by deus ex machina.
This is not the first time bugs screwed up our plans.. don't get me started on the retreat bug..
How are we supposed to plan ahead and develop strategies if the rules of the game just change randomly through bugs and admin intervention?
€dit: Yes.. I have also noticed that the battle page looks different now..
To everyone claiming the screenshot was photoshopped, here the full version:
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€dit2: I want to get this straight - all alliances / sides / players were affected by these bugs today. I did in no way want to hint at favoritism or something similar.
The article was supposed to have 2 paragraphs - one to explain our strategy to the public who deserved to know, and another one explaining why the strategy failed.
Maybe I worded the article wrong - many people got offended and started a bashfest - this was not my intention and please have mercy on me, I don't write articles this often
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Furthermore the president of Portugal might only be a victim of these bugs as well - leave it to the admins to decide what is abusive and what not.
Again: All alliances / sides / players were affected by today's bugs and got advantages and disadvantages out of it.
It is in the best interest of all of us if those bugs get fixed ASAP and we can match each other fair and square.
Signed intending to keep the public informed,
Vice-Commandant Lucius "Lucky" Varenus, eUSMC
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qn20
Commandant eUSMC
usaspainepicfailmaxxx
Brokenwarmodmaxx
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This has to be corrected Admins, we clearly did the right thing battle should have ended and Portugal should have been blocked.
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Um, if you enter the battle for Penn, it shows Portugal retreated.
All the best.
we had the retreat bug too.
and our battles went on forever in asturias and illinois as well, so it isnt just you ~
I'm so glad I don't pay anything to play this game.
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This game is gay.
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peaceequalsadminamaxx
Can you bring it a bit more lame?
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This is supposed to be a srategy game right? Well how can rules change after one side plans their strategy according to the current rules.
Once again the Admins show which side they support.
To call it a 6.1 is quite the 'sour grapes' category...
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>Um, if you enter the battle for Penn, it shows Portugal retreated.
They retreated 10 minutes after the battle was over bro.
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Signed, even if I'm in Indo.
erepublik is God's way to teach America geography
How can Asturias been lost? we was 100k points of damage away from winning for about 2 hours.
USA choose to lose Asturias high iron area, for whatever reason.
It was a EVEN battle. Spain + friends against PEACE.
It seems France as win with -23517
Can't USA do -23517 of damage?
Seriously, PEACE/EDEN/Fortis/whatever. You have to admit the game is bugged. When I tried to log on to fight at the end of Illinois, the servers were down. Changing borders without notice. Retreat bugs. Battles that don't end....
It's not about PEACE v. Fortis/EDEN. It's about how after a year playing this game, its core functions are still bugged. Look at us all. We spend hours of our lives here arguing over a game that has never functioned well. Intelligent and active people that want to be challenged and entertained, but we're looking in the wrong place. The litany of bugs, cheats and exploits will always cloud this game. Blaming the Admins and accusing your opponents of cheating has now become the daily activity of the game.
It's broken. Accept it.
admins fixed the borders today, after some debate. its somewhere on the forums, i cba to find the link
>They retreated 10 minutes after the battle was over bro.
So, if they'd have closed Asturias after you guys chose to fight there, and it was above the wall, would it have still been "zomg haxors!", or would you say how epic it was?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/wars/show/386" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/wars/show/38[..]/386
Nice photoshop bro
Signed. Vote it up!
@Glados: I am not the guy to blame anyone or whine about lost opportunities.
It would benefit both sides if bugs like this got fixed and incidents like this wouldn't happen, don't you agree?
@Quicksilver: Instead of even trying to retreat after seeing that the battle should already be over, he should have reported that the retreat button is still available for the battle.
@DK: You sure are not prone to logical reasoning. And please read the whole article next time before commenting.
We had our forces on standby for Asturias and our orders have been coordinated with our allies.
F... YOU Americans. You are ungrateful dogs! Today you've lost Pole's respekt. We fought in Asturia because We are true friends of Spain.
Why the battle ending times are different from the ones on the war page ?
Didn't even read the article, did you Makcim?
i agree, the border issue should have been fixed prior to having been an issue, by waiting till now to correct it it wrecks whatever strategies that would have been made around those rules.
Dishmcds, quoting here my answer to you from the forums:
"Dishmcds, there is. You are mixing up the sequence of events.
1. The retreat from Delaware happened before the normal end of the Pennsylvania battle
2. The Portuguese president was late to react and thus when the Pennsylvania battle should have closed normally there were no other open battles in the Portugal vs USA war.
3. The Pennsylvania battle went on because of a bug and 5-10 minutes later the Portuguese president attacked another region and then retreated from Pennsylvania
So there's everything wrong with the Portuguese war. If it wasn't for the bug, Portugal would have lost the initiative for 24 hours."
*Awaits the deletion of this article*
Firstly, I disagree with the decision to order American citizens to fight in Illinois rather than Asturias. Although I understand the reasoning behind it, I disagree with it completely for a variety of reasons, none of which need to be discussed because I suspect they already have. The fact that it was coordinated with allies makes me feel slightly better about the situation, but not much.
Secondly, the rest of this article is full of win.
Signed.
I know it's a hard thing to do but...
1. Go to http://www.erepublik.com/en/wars/show/386" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/wars/show/38[..]/386
2. Click on "show finished battles"
3. Check out time of the battles.
Are you OK Annie?
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What You expect form PEACE ? 😃
They took gold which is actually life savings of entire nation, admin said legally - I strongly oppose, because nobody can in real life for example buy 16000 US$ for 35 US$ and make news in newspapers. 😃 In real life they can god 5 to 10% as reward.
So it is against 4. Th. ER law IMHO.
So, what You do expect from PEACE ? Fair play and do not make that retreat ? No sir !
So, we will see what will admin do about own BUG huge as house ?
LcfR and Michael Collins the shown sequence of the battles is also bugged. It didn't happen in that order as the war's page now shows.
I was here when Pennsylvania should have ended and Delaware was already retreated by then leaving that battle the only one going.
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Sukoidha
Lt.General eUSMC
>This is what separates us from e.g. the Hungarians and their success - even their citizens listen to their leaders and follow orders without questioning them or doing what they please.
People would listen if you gave reasons, like Chris Willson did. We're not automatons or robots, we're free-thinking Americans. If you want a nation that does as it is told, go to eHungary....
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Yes LcfR, because we all know eUSA retreated Delaware over an hour after Pennsylvania ended, it makes perfect strategic sense.
this game is getting pretty gay. PEACE just takes the fun out of everything.. Not even the best laid plans which legally should of worked didn't because of "bugs"...
Its just a ploy to generate more bodies to play this bugged game. Have the US almost engulfed, so that more new people come and play and generate more hits for the admins so they can get more $$$.
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Dczip
General eTD
Cool story, bro
Not to mention the common citizens of eHungary have enough money to afford weapons.
Admis really support PEACE