[SFP] It's time to wake up & face the facts
Day 3,700, 04:10
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Published in USA 
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by Rosa Violet Carson
Stop searching for a light at the end of the tunnel. Be that light!
Dear comrades, brothers & sisters, members of the once glorious SFP,
I thought I will continue my series of articles without having to write another introduction. But I can't! Not on this day, PotUS election day. And I will jump the gun & congratulate you, Pfeiffer, tip my hat, because once again you showed how able you are when it come to "orchestrate" false mirroring of the will of the people & "vote-engineering" with backdoor-deals & deception of the finest kind.
See people, you gotta ask yourself one question: who would have won if the Feds had decided to support Pfeiffer (no way on earth would they've show support for a renegade, like HWF is!) This endorsement manipulation served only one purpose: not to alienate the Fed-members to vote in protest for Henry French, if the party endorses the USWP candidate! It's that simple & clear! And I will not write about the "farming-community" & their role in every election since Day 1.
What can we expect coming out of this?
Really nothing more, then the strengthening of a centralized oligarchy of the elite few, the increase of crooked meta-game censorship, "blacklistings", bans for all those who raise their voices, funneling of tax-monies, continuation of the "grand-theft" of our nation... you name it! But that isn't really the subject of this article series, let's continue where we've stopped.
Let me state this: I was right when I said that Maxwell will basically do NOTHING! And he proved me right. After a short New Years rest from the game of a couple of days, I've returned & wasn't surprised that he has chosen the same strategy as in his prior mandate: AFK. No articles, no engagement, no new endeavors, besides the "improvements" of our Constitution & a few lonely shouts in the feed, Maxwell is nowhere to be found. You might be surprised when I say that he doesn't need to do anything, because he's already finished his mission. What was it? To discredit me, keep me away from the communication lines on Discord & alienate me (read ban) from the SFP forums, in order to make it impossible for me to interact with the more active crowd of SFP members. Here's a quote from the SFP Discord, that was happening a week or so ago (please note that the timestamp here refers to the day prior of the communication happening) & came after I've reached out to the leadership, trying to find a solid way to come together:
Jimmy Cincinnati Yesterday at 9:50 PM
Tell Rose that I don't negotiate with terrorists.
Maxwell Hanz Yesterday at 9:50 PM
same
Centomax Yesterday at 10:01 PM
F****** turdburglar he was
Jimmy Cincinnati Yesterday at 10:01 PM
Placing disruptive proposals.
Tried to impeach multiple presidents.
Centomax Yesterday at 10:02 PM
Yup
Very disruptive to the country
Jimmy Cincinnati Yesterday at 10:02 PM
Bogus CBO proposals.
Centomax Yesterday at 10:03 PM
He just wants to have a distraction from his own mental retardation
Jimmy Cincinnati Yesterday at 10:05 PM
As a collective, it's in our best interest to banish him.
Maxwell Hanz Yesterday at 10:05 PM
we already have
We have taken all the action we are allowed to take
thats why him squirming is pointless
he needs to leave
We can't let $hit go unnoticed but we also shouldn't dwell on it. The more attention he gets the more he will fight with us
It looks so easy to handle dissident voices: pronounce them being terrorists, call in-game proposals, granted to every Congressman by game mechanics bogus, call this person names & banish him through un-constitutional "blacklisting", as learned from the piggish double-faced elite. Here they apologists of ethics & morals don't have an issue, because "Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi." Maybe they see it as even being their "duty" to insult another member, after declaring him a terrorist?
The essence of their strategy can be found here (although Jimmy has some doubts):
Jimmy Cincinnati 10/16/2017, 4:34:11 AM
In Rosa's case, I said some things about which I'm not proud.
JALake 10/16/2017, 4:34:39 AM
Rosa had it coming too
We can't be nice to people like Rosa or CG
Maxwell Hanz Today at 2:58 AM
I only defend myself and others. I never attack people unless they really really deserve it
Lake sums it up splendidly! And Max shows us his double standard logic. The evil in this is, that these same people don't have a problem in putting out "standards" for others to behave, standards that are not binding for themselves. Let's take a look at a few more examples of how they speak about someone, when present & behind his back:
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 1:15:35 AM
imbecile
your starting to piss me off so I figure your due for one
I don't like being this way Rosa, but you push me, everytime
KarmaBlaster 11/19/2017, 6:22:50 AM
F****** fag
Jimmy Cincinnati 10/28/2017, 3:02:10 AM
This place is starting to look more dead than Rosa Violet's sex life
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:46:21 PM
She's German. Her parent or grandparents were fascists. It's a fact.
Mine were hippies.
Goddess Yesterday at 4:42 AM
@Khorek Rosa sucks horse c***
Goddess Yesterday at 4:43 AM
Hey do you guys know Rosa Violet Carson? She sent me this message out of nowhere
She said she sucks thirty-three desk of horse c***
I will stop here, because I don't want to dwell on this, as it's so obvious. Let's better continue the narrative. When my article was published, in which I have called out these kind of dirty practices, as well as the subtle pro-fascist leaning of some of our members, people became furious, mainly because they knew it was telling the truth & the truth can sometimes be very inconvenient.
Here's a transcript of one communique among the Discord-crow
Rosa Violet Carson 12/11/2017, 12:38:09 AM
For the last time: why do you block people from chatting here without a valid reason?
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/11/2017, 12:39:56 AM
You wouldn't Kick people if they came to your server and deliberately attack your party.
Goddess 12/11/2017, 12:42:34 AM
Rosa you are jailed because your face is ugly get a new one
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(At this point I was jailed by Goddess)
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Maxwell Hanz 12/11/2017, 2:07:40 AM
We should ban Rosa
In my opinion
This Discord is only affiliated with the SFP it is not mandated by it
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/11/2017, 2:08:53 AM
I agree.
Maxwell Hanz 12/11/2017, 2:08:55 AM
We have plenty of reason as you have seen
it does not matter if Rosa chooses to see it or not
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/11/2017, 2:09:17 AM
What say the RC members?
I'm sure they'd support it.
Maxwell Hanz 12/11/2017, 2:09:33 AM
the Rc has no power here if I remember correctly
This place is up to the will of the admins in actuallity
Khorek 12/11/2017, 2:10:19 AM
From what I remember the RC didnt want anything to do with this
Maxwell Hanz 12/11/2017, 2:10:25 AM
exactly
Im not saying go ban everyone you want but I mean come on this is not rocket science. Rosa is being annoying
Here's the thing: the so called "official" Discord of the Socialist Freedom Party is in not in the hands of the party leadership, nor controlled by the RevCom, it is privately owned (more about this later). This is a perfect example how a chosen few can corrupt power by empowering themselves & chose not to be held responsible for their actions, whatsoever. Just label someone annoying, an "enemy" & case closed. Max explains this "authority" issue on the Discord very simple:
Maxwell Hanz 12/15/2017, 3:13:49 AM
And its not controlled by the party
The RC doesnt want to anything to do with it from what I hear
Yuuka Kazami 12/15/2017, 3:14:07 AM
We choose to be in the Discord because we want faster communication and it helps us make on the spot decisions for the party
The RC works within the PM's
Maxwell Hanz 12/15/2017, 3:14:36 AM
@Foxes I do not own this place
Techinically the owner is Dylan (Godess) but it's also every admin with "Server Manager" perms
And to further clarify: the admins are "democratically" chosen by themselves. How convenient!
The thing that Max & his "brothers in arms" were so desperately trying to prove was that the SFP is not divided regarding these issues, that the party "stands" behind their lawless decisions & meta-game play. But this cannot be further away from the truth!
I will illustrate this claim by some more quotes from the "official" Discord, where it's evident that NOT all participants share Maxwell's views or support his policies, not to speak about the brighter party-base! Here we go:
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:18:20 AM
Is CG kicked and banned?
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:18:25 AM
yup
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:18:30 AM
so is Rosa
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:18:30 AM
Why? And why?
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:18:47 AM
it was taken to a vote by the admins. we are tired of the constant struggle
and we have several reasons for both
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:19:12 AM
Ouch. Not cool. Needs to be better than “I don’t like you “
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:20:08 AM
The general consensus is that this channel is only affiliated with the party and is not a requirement to play. So when others come here to intentionally interupt the discourse actio should be taken, proper discretion should be used
We have reasoning for doing this though its not simply because "we don't like them"
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:22:41 AM
She's had nothing to contribute and does nothing but work against our interests.
Do we need to facilitate that?
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:23:01 AM
several arguements were presented both for and against kicking
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:23:20 AM
I voted against banning. Glad it's done, though. Makes me eLife easier.
Maybe he will lose interest, now that he's not in our business.
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:30:09 AM
So now we are against alternate viewpoints and dissenting ideas?
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:3
We are against down right lies and slandering of members
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:30:41 AM
You call those alternative views?
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:33:49 AM
the list honestly goes on and on of factual information of misdeeds done by these individuals. In my mind there is no counter argument with this sadly. I wish they weren't so bad tbh but it is geniunely the same thing day in day out
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:34:19 AM
Rosa was a no-brainer.
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:37:19 AM
Rosa did that previously. I thought he was going to behave this time?
CG might be a d***, but he hasn’t done anything wrong lately
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:38:12 AM
Rosa isn't exactly one to come through on his word
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:38:21 AM
She's still running multis.
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:38:26 AM
She insulted me as soon as I got here this morning
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:38:33 AM
And working on a PTO. Even if he wasn't the candidate.
Ilene Dover12/16/2017, 8:4
What I see is this party behaving like “the elites” it rails against
Forcing people out who won’t conform to existing authodoxies
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:41:08 AM
She is a constant issue@Ilene Dover he is constantly putting others down
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:41:30 AM
And you think banning him from Discord will solve that?
For either of them?
I can’t protest this decision enough
It’s short sighted
Stupid
Myopic
See what other adjectives I can come up with when I’m not so pissed
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:42:40 AM
Im sorry Ilene
Harcourt Fenton Mudd 12/16/2017, 8:43:22 AM
I agree 100% with Illene
It sets a bad precedent
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:53:13 AM
Its much easier for me personally to just say f*** that guy
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:53:38 AM
This is getting ridicculous I shouldnt have to parent Rosa
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:53:44 AM
I think you’ve sold the party goals for your own convenience
It’s exclusionary behaviour. Never thought I’d see the SFP do that
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:54:32 AM
I rarely see anyone supporting Rosa other then elections
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:54:33 AM
Again, I'll point out that it wasn't us.
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:54:42 AM
the SFP is not this discord. this discord is a discord owned by Goddess
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:55:14 AM
He calls it SFP Official. It’s the party Discord. The decision seems to have been made. Whatever. Might as well argue with a tree
Here you can see not only members being strictly against the banning of chickensguys & myself, but the lousy way how fake arguments are used for having it their own way. Even more important: Maxwell admits that the SFP Discord is far from being an "official" one, read his own words! The receipt, as always: wild accusations, PTO-fear-mongering & outright lies.
But there is more, more voices are protesting against the current policies of the Discord-gang & of course the known actors calling for repression:
Salty 12/18/2017, 5:47:58 AM
Now Rosa is running around calling everyone nazis. Posting articles. Makes our party look like garbage to the eUSA.
Ilene Dover 12/18/2017, 5:48:03 AM
So deal with their message and credibility. Don’t exclude them
Salty 12/18/2017, 5:48:13 AM
Spamming the SFP in game feed with non sense.
Causing problems for everyone that just want to play the game normally
Ilene Dover 12/18/2017, 5:48:32 AM
Then curate it. Or ignore it
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/18/2017, 5:48:42 AM
I didn't ban anyone and I was against that.
But I'm glad Rosa is gone.
Ilene Dover 12/18/2017, 5:48:57 AM
You can’t evict them from the party
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 5:49:46 AM
its not about them folks its about us .............some day you will get it but I cant explain ....you get it or you dont
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/18/2017, 5:51:11 AM
I wasn't even a voting member last month.
Salty 12/18/2017, 5:51:47 AM
I wasn’t a voting RC nor a congress member.
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 5:53:58 AM
WHO CARES WHO WAS A VOTING MEMBER ...... thats not the point ......the party changed the rules cool .....make the party what you want ...
Salty 12/18/2017, 5:54:27 AM
Have you read the RC thread about this topic?
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 5:56:40 AM
YEA thats the point I did .... that thread makes us the same thing some of us have been fighting aginst for years
Salty 12/18/2017, 5:58:13 AM
What’s your solution to this? Continue to let Rosa and ChickensGuys continue to display high levels of autism/tearing our party down?
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/18/2017, 5:59:38 AM
We have to chill out and talk about what needs to be done.
Not what's done.
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 6:00:05 AM
I dont care do what you folks want ban everyone that has a different opinion than us
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/18/2017, 6:00:57 AM
You are blaming the wrong person.
I did nothing wrong.
Party president had admin, forum admin, and set the roster.
What could we have done?
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 6:02:00 AM
My solution is @Salty be the party we claim to be
Salty 12/18/2017, 6:02:39 AM
I get what you’re saying@hoss1965 but at the same time we have people leaving the party over comments left by Rosa. Which is sad.
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 6:04:03 AM
Who ? someones multi
Ilene Dover 12/18/2017, 6:04:30 AM
Don’t silence and gag someone because they have different ideas
Civility in discourse is a separate issue
Salty 12/18/2017, 6:05:54 AM
They don’t have ideas. It’s false allegations And attacks.
Ilene Dover 12/18/2017, 6:06:11 AM
So refute them or ignore them
Salty 12/18/2017, 6:06:31 AM
Refuting turns into a shitstorm
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 6:06:32 AM
I love this party but it was a party for everyone in the past .....now it seems like we are them ......what ever ......
Not to forget this one, it's pure gold, as Jimmy explains how democracy should be bypassed, when it doesn't fit someone's goals:
Harcourt Fenton Mudd 11/26/2017, 6:25:02 AM(edited)
It's in plain English. What's the point of having a constitution if we're not going to follow it?
Jimmy Cincinnati 11/26/2017, 6:29:38 AM
Executive action is reserved for situations with inadequate time for democracy.
Now let us have a precise look at some of the characters involved, experience them in their own words (it's hard to deny your own words, isn't it?):
Khorek 11/19/2017, 6:24:48 AM
Ni66ers don't exist.
I've never seen one
Only on TV
I am convinced they are a jewish conspiracy
Khorek 10/29/2017, 2:36:39 AM
@Salty A black,a Jew,and a Mexican walk into a bar The bartender looks up and says"Get the f*** out."
Salty 10/29/2017, 2:38:50 AM
Lol@Pink
Jimmy Cincinnati 10/23/2017, 2:25:40 PM
Protestants are just as homophobic as Catholics.
Goddess 12/17/2017, 1:49:00 AM
Drug dealers are young entrepeneurs
Goddess 11/19/2017, 2:53:27 AM
Anyway I can now kill people
With a large rifle
You can conceal carry anything with a barrel greater than 15 inches here
But yeah trench coat with shotgun is totally legal
No license
You ask who these two guys are, Khorek & Goddess, as you don't see them being members in our party? Khorek is Maxwell's RL friend, but a foreign CS holder, playing for eCroatia. He's the one, that was streaming Hitler speeches in the Discord voice channel & ranting my channel with the help of his right-wing brotherhood. Dylan AKA Godess AKA YaBoi YaGirl DaMoney is the SFP "official" Discord owner & isn't even playing anymore, like he says (On the other hand there is strong evidence he is now playing the account of Dillon Richards: both are never online at the same time & Dillon has never participated in the voice-chat, as it would blow his real identity!) Here these individuals speak their mind freely & I believe this to be shocking! These words penetrate much deeper then this game is all about; they show us the state of mind of these people, something that's very scary. And keep in mind, that the owner of the channel admitted many times he's using drugs & alcohol, combining them with prescription drug,s he takes for treating his anxiety problems. I hope this is not the road to another US massacre, but sadly that the environment in the channel isn't in any way helpful for calming him down. Some more Dylan lines, picturing his RL political views:
Goddess 12/10/2017, 6:11:58 AM
I am basically a neo conservative
Goddess 12/10/2017, 6:38:00 AM
I am also going to a major political conference soon since I am better now
It is a student right wing conference
Ladies & gentlemen, the owner & undisputed authority of your SFP Discord is a right-wing racist lunatic, who has the urge to kill people & isn't afraid to say so! What a horror story!
It should now be clearly understood that these above mentioned people are bashing out against me for calling them for what they are: shameless racists & fascist. Please do remember: it was not me wearing a Waffen SS Nazi-fascist avatar (cough, cough shiloh13, cough, cough!), refusing to remove it. It was not me streaming Hitler speeches in the voice channel of this Discord. It was not me stating in the in-game feed of the party that "Uncle Adolf" did nothing wrong & it certainly was not me putting these words into their mouths. But what we haven't seen so far: the party leadership distancing themselves from such abhorrent practices & persistent inhumane propaganda of the worse kind! This is sad, in deed.
So, are more facts needed to help you draw your own conclusion, or was this enough? Personally, I had a hard time in the process of writing; reading what some of our members are proclaiming made me feel uneasy & I got a bad feeling in my stomach, because of such statements. But if we all turn a blind eye, nothing will change! And I hope so much that even these folks will change, after realizing their wrongs & opening their minds for alternative views, not based on prejudice & hate.
The Socialist Freedom Party should be much better then this & every meta-environment we chose, forum or chat, should mirror the values we stand for: freedom, equality, solidarity, democracy, inclusion & a deep, profound urge to help one another, making the game-play more enjoyable.
This is my mission, this is what I'm fighting for! In the next article of this series I will speak less about the current state of the party, but emphasize more on the road I want the SFP to travel upon, outline my plans & concrete moves I will undertake, if you chose to elect me as your next party president. I will be needing all the help & support I can get.
Until then, enjoy the "calm before the storm"!
Yours truly
~Rosa
Dear comrades, brothers & sisters, members of the once glorious SFP,
I thought I will continue my series of articles without having to write another introduction. But I can't! Not on this day, PotUS election day. And I will jump the gun & congratulate you, Pfeiffer, tip my hat, because once again you showed how able you are when it come to "orchestrate" false mirroring of the will of the people & "vote-engineering" with backdoor-deals & deception of the finest kind.
See people, you gotta ask yourself one question: who would have won if the Feds had decided to support Pfeiffer (no way on earth would they've show support for a renegade, like HWF is!) This endorsement manipulation served only one purpose: not to alienate the Fed-members to vote in protest for Henry French, if the party endorses the USWP candidate! It's that simple & clear! And I will not write about the "farming-community" & their role in every election since Day 1.
What can we expect coming out of this?
Really nothing more, then the strengthening of a centralized oligarchy of the elite few, the increase of crooked meta-game censorship, "blacklistings", bans for all those who raise their voices, funneling of tax-monies, continuation of the "grand-theft" of our nation... you name it! But that isn't really the subject of this article series, let's continue where we've stopped.
Let me state this: I was right when I said that Maxwell will basically do NOTHING! And he proved me right. After a short New Years rest from the game of a couple of days, I've returned & wasn't surprised that he has chosen the same strategy as in his prior mandate: AFK. No articles, no engagement, no new endeavors, besides the "improvements" of our Constitution & a few lonely shouts in the feed, Maxwell is nowhere to be found. You might be surprised when I say that he doesn't need to do anything, because he's already finished his mission. What was it? To discredit me, keep me away from the communication lines on Discord & alienate me (read ban) from the SFP forums, in order to make it impossible for me to interact with the more active crowd of SFP members. Here's a quote from the SFP Discord, that was happening a week or so ago (please note that the timestamp here refers to the day prior of the communication happening) & came after I've reached out to the leadership, trying to find a solid way to come together:
Jimmy Cincinnati Yesterday at 9:50 PM
Tell Rose that I don't negotiate with terrorists.
Maxwell Hanz Yesterday at 9:50 PM
same
Centomax Yesterday at 10:01 PM
F****** turdburglar he was
Jimmy Cincinnati Yesterday at 10:01 PM
Placing disruptive proposals.
Tried to impeach multiple presidents.
Centomax Yesterday at 10:02 PM
Yup
Very disruptive to the country
Jimmy Cincinnati Yesterday at 10:02 PM
Bogus CBO proposals.
Centomax Yesterday at 10:03 PM
He just wants to have a distraction from his own mental retardation
Jimmy Cincinnati Yesterday at 10:05 PM
As a collective, it's in our best interest to banish him.
Maxwell Hanz Yesterday at 10:05 PM
we already have
We have taken all the action we are allowed to take
thats why him squirming is pointless
he needs to leave
We can't let $hit go unnoticed but we also shouldn't dwell on it. The more attention he gets the more he will fight with us
It looks so easy to handle dissident voices: pronounce them being terrorists, call in-game proposals, granted to every Congressman by game mechanics bogus, call this person names & banish him through un-constitutional "blacklisting", as learned from the piggish double-faced elite. Here they apologists of ethics & morals don't have an issue, because "Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi." Maybe they see it as even being their "duty" to insult another member, after declaring him a terrorist?
The essence of their strategy can be found here (although Jimmy has some doubts):
Jimmy Cincinnati 10/16/2017, 4:34:11 AM
In Rosa's case, I said some things about which I'm not proud.
JALake 10/16/2017, 4:34:39 AM
Rosa had it coming too
We can't be nice to people like Rosa or CG
Maxwell Hanz Today at 2:58 AM
I only defend myself and others. I never attack people unless they really really deserve it
Lake sums it up splendidly! And Max shows us his double standard logic. The evil in this is, that these same people don't have a problem in putting out "standards" for others to behave, standards that are not binding for themselves. Let's take a look at a few more examples of how they speak about someone, when present & behind his back:
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 1:15:35 AM
imbecile
your starting to piss me off so I figure your due for one
I don't like being this way Rosa, but you push me, everytime
KarmaBlaster 11/19/2017, 6:22:50 AM
F****** fag
Jimmy Cincinnati 10/28/2017, 3:02:10 AM
This place is starting to look more dead than Rosa Violet's sex life
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:46:21 PM
She's German. Her parent or grandparents were fascists. It's a fact.
Mine were hippies.
Goddess Yesterday at 4:42 AM
Goddess Yesterday at 4:43 AM
Hey do you guys know Rosa Violet Carson? She sent me this message out of nowhere
She said she sucks thirty-three desk of horse c***
I will stop here, because I don't want to dwell on this, as it's so obvious. Let's better continue the narrative. When my article was published, in which I have called out these kind of dirty practices, as well as the subtle pro-fascist leaning of some of our members, people became furious, mainly because they knew it was telling the truth & the truth can sometimes be very inconvenient.
Here's a transcript of one communique among the Discord-crow
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Rosa Violet Carson 12/11/2017, 12:38:09 AM
For the last time: why do you block people from chatting here without a valid reason?
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/11/2017, 12:39:56 AM
You wouldn't Kick people if they came to your server and deliberately attack your party.
Goddess 12/11/2017, 12:42:34 AM
Rosa you are jailed because your face is ugly get a new one
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(At this point I was jailed by Goddess)
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Maxwell Hanz 12/11/2017, 2:07:40 AM
We should ban Rosa
In my opinion
This Discord is only affiliated with the SFP it is not mandated by it
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/11/2017, 2:08:53 AM
I agree.
Maxwell Hanz 12/11/2017, 2:08:55 AM
We have plenty of reason as you have seen
it does not matter if Rosa chooses to see it or not
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/11/2017, 2:09:17 AM
What say the RC members?
I'm sure they'd support it.
Maxwell Hanz 12/11/2017, 2:09:33 AM
the Rc has no power here if I remember correctly
This place is up to the will of the admins in actuallity
Khorek 12/11/2017, 2:10:19 AM
From what I remember the RC didnt want anything to do with this
Maxwell Hanz 12/11/2017, 2:10:25 AM
exactly
Im not saying go ban everyone you want but I mean come on this is not rocket science. Rosa is being annoying
Here's the thing: the so called "official" Discord of the Socialist Freedom Party is in not in the hands of the party leadership, nor controlled by the RevCom, it is privately owned (more about this later). This is a perfect example how a chosen few can corrupt power by empowering themselves & chose not to be held responsible for their actions, whatsoever. Just label someone annoying, an "enemy" & case closed. Max explains this "authority" issue on the Discord very simple:
Maxwell Hanz 12/15/2017, 3:13:49 AM
And its not controlled by the party
The RC doesnt want to anything to do with it from what I hear
Yuuka Kazami 12/15/2017, 3:14:07 AM
We choose to be in the Discord because we want faster communication and it helps us make on the spot decisions for the party
The RC works within the PM's
Maxwell Hanz 12/15/2017, 3:14:36 AM
Techinically the owner is Dylan (Godess) but it's also every admin with "Server Manager" perms
And to further clarify: the admins are "democratically" chosen by themselves. How convenient!
The thing that Max & his "brothers in arms" were so desperately trying to prove was that the SFP is not divided regarding these issues, that the party "stands" behind their lawless decisions & meta-game play. But this cannot be further away from the truth!
I will illustrate this claim by some more quotes from the "official" Discord, where it's evident that NOT all participants share Maxwell's views or support his policies, not to speak about the brighter party-base! Here we go:
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:18:20 AM
Is CG kicked and banned?
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:18:25 AM
yup
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:18:30 AM
so is Rosa
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:18:30 AM
Why? And why?
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:18:47 AM
it was taken to a vote by the admins. we are tired of the constant struggle
and we have several reasons for both
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:19:12 AM
Ouch. Not cool. Needs to be better than “I don’t like you “
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:20:08 AM
The general consensus is that this channel is only affiliated with the party and is not a requirement to play. So when others come here to intentionally interupt the discourse actio should be taken, proper discretion should be used
We have reasoning for doing this though its not simply because "we don't like them"
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:22:41 AM
She's had nothing to contribute and does nothing but work against our interests.
Do we need to facilitate that?
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:23:01 AM
several arguements were presented both for and against kicking
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:23:20 AM
I voted against banning. Glad it's done, though. Makes me eLife easier.
Maybe he will lose interest, now that he's not in our business.
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:30:09 AM
So now we are against alternate viewpoints and dissenting ideas?
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:3
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We are against down right lies and slandering of members
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:30:41 AM
You call those alternative views?
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:33:49 AM
the list honestly goes on and on of factual information of misdeeds done by these individuals. In my mind there is no counter argument with this sadly. I wish they weren't so bad tbh but it is geniunely the same thing day in day out
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:34:19 AM
Rosa was a no-brainer.
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:37:19 AM
Rosa did that previously. I thought he was going to behave this time?
CG might be a d***, but he hasn’t done anything wrong lately
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:38:12 AM
Rosa isn't exactly one to come through on his word
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:38:21 AM
She's still running multis.
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:38:26 AM
She insulted me as soon as I got here this morning
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:38:33 AM
And working on a PTO. Even if he wasn't the candidate.
Ilene Dover12/16/2017, 8:4
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What I see is this party behaving like “the elites” it rails against
Forcing people out who won’t conform to existing authodoxies
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:41:08 AM
She is a constant issue
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:41:30 AM
And you think banning him from Discord will solve that?
For either of them?
I can’t protest this decision enough
It’s short sighted
Stupid
Myopic
See what other adjectives I can come up with when I’m not so pissed
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:42:40 AM
Im sorry Ilene
Harcourt Fenton Mudd 12/16/2017, 8:43:22 AM
I agree 100% with Illene
It sets a bad precedent
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:53:13 AM
Its much easier for me personally to just say f*** that guy
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:53:38 AM
This is getting ridicculous I shouldnt have to parent Rosa
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:53:44 AM
I think you’ve sold the party goals for your own convenience
It’s exclusionary behaviour. Never thought I’d see the SFP do that
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:54:32 AM
I rarely see anyone supporting Rosa other then elections
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/16/2017, 8:54:33 AM
Again, I'll point out that it wasn't us.
Maxwell Hanz 12/16/2017, 8:54:42 AM
the SFP is not this discord. this discord is a discord owned by Goddess
Ilene Dover 12/16/2017, 8:55:14 AM
He calls it SFP Official. It’s the party Discord. The decision seems to have been made. Whatever. Might as well argue with a tree
Here you can see not only members being strictly against the banning of chickensguys & myself, but the lousy way how fake arguments are used for having it their own way. Even more important: Maxwell admits that the SFP Discord is far from being an "official" one, read his own words! The receipt, as always: wild accusations, PTO-fear-mongering & outright lies.
But there is more, more voices are protesting against the current policies of the Discord-gang & of course the known actors calling for repression:
Salty 12/18/2017, 5:47:58 AM
Now Rosa is running around calling everyone nazis. Posting articles. Makes our party look like garbage to the eUSA.
Ilene Dover 12/18/2017, 5:48:03 AM
So deal with their message and credibility. Don’t exclude them
Salty 12/18/2017, 5:48:13 AM
Spamming the SFP in game feed with non sense.
Causing problems for everyone that just want to play the game normally
Ilene Dover 12/18/2017, 5:48:32 AM
Then curate it. Or ignore it
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/18/2017, 5:48:42 AM
I didn't ban anyone and I was against that.
But I'm glad Rosa is gone.
Ilene Dover 12/18/2017, 5:48:57 AM
You can’t evict them from the party
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 5:49:46 AM
its not about them folks its about us .............some day you will get it but I cant explain ....you get it or you dont
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/18/2017, 5:51:11 AM
I wasn't even a voting member last month.
Salty 12/18/2017, 5:51:47 AM
I wasn’t a voting RC nor a congress member.
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 5:53:58 AM
WHO CARES WHO WAS A VOTING MEMBER ...... thats not the point ......the party changed the rules cool .....make the party what you want ...
Salty 12/18/2017, 5:54:27 AM
Have you read the RC thread about this topic?
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 5:56:40 AM
YEA thats the point I did .... that thread makes us the same thing some of us have been fighting aginst for years
Salty 12/18/2017, 5:58:13 AM
What’s your solution to this? Continue to let Rosa and ChickensGuys continue to display high levels of autism/tearing our party down?
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/18/2017, 5:59:38 AM
We have to chill out and talk about what needs to be done.
Not what's done.
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 6:00:05 AM
I dont care do what you folks want ban everyone that has a different opinion than us
Jimmy Cincinnati 12/18/2017, 6:00:57 AM
You are blaming the wrong person.
I did nothing wrong.
Party president had admin, forum admin, and set the roster.
What could we have done?
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 6:02:00 AM
My solution is @Salty be the party we claim to be
Salty 12/18/2017, 6:02:39 AM
I get what you’re saying
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 6:04:03 AM
Who ? someones multi
Ilene Dover 12/18/2017, 6:04:30 AM
Don’t silence and gag someone because they have different ideas
Civility in discourse is a separate issue
Salty 12/18/2017, 6:05:54 AM
They don’t have ideas. It’s false allegations And attacks.
Ilene Dover 12/18/2017, 6:06:11 AM
So refute them or ignore them
Salty 12/18/2017, 6:06:31 AM
Refuting turns into a shitstorm
hoss1965 12/18/2017, 6:06:32 AM
I love this party but it was a party for everyone in the past .....now it seems like we are them ......what ever ......
Not to forget this one, it's pure gold, as Jimmy explains how democracy should be bypassed, when it doesn't fit someone's goals:
Harcourt Fenton Mudd 11/26/2017, 6:25:02 AM(edited)
It's in plain English. What's the point of having a constitution if we're not going to follow it?
Jimmy Cincinnati 11/26/2017, 6:29:38 AM
Executive action is reserved for situations with inadequate time for democracy.
Now let us have a precise look at some of the characters involved, experience them in their own words (it's hard to deny your own words, isn't it?):
Khorek 11/19/2017, 6:24:48 AM
Ni66ers don't exist.
I've never seen one
Only on TV
I am convinced they are a jewish conspiracy
Khorek 10/29/2017, 2:36:39 AM
Salty 10/29/2017, 2:38:50 AM
Lol
Jimmy Cincinnati 10/23/2017, 2:25:40 PM
Protestants are just as homophobic as Catholics.
Goddess 12/17/2017, 1:49:00 AM
Drug dealers are young entrepeneurs
Goddess 11/19/2017, 2:53:27 AM
Anyway I can now kill people
With a large rifle
You can conceal carry anything with a barrel greater than 15 inches here
But yeah trench coat with shotgun is totally legal
No license
You ask who these two guys are, Khorek & Goddess, as you don't see them being members in our party? Khorek is Maxwell's RL friend, but a foreign CS holder, playing for eCroatia. He's the one, that was streaming Hitler speeches in the Discord voice channel & ranting my channel with the help of his right-wing brotherhood. Dylan AKA Godess AKA YaBoi YaGirl DaMoney is the SFP "official" Discord owner & isn't even playing anymore, like he says (On the other hand there is strong evidence he is now playing the account of Dillon Richards: both are never online at the same time & Dillon has never participated in the voice-chat, as it would blow his real identity!) Here these individuals speak their mind freely & I believe this to be shocking! These words penetrate much deeper then this game is all about; they show us the state of mind of these people, something that's very scary. And keep in mind, that the owner of the channel admitted many times he's using drugs & alcohol, combining them with prescription drug,s he takes for treating his anxiety problems. I hope this is not the road to another US massacre, but sadly that the environment in the channel isn't in any way helpful for calming him down. Some more Dylan lines, picturing his RL political views:
Goddess 12/10/2017, 6:11:58 AM
I am basically a neo conservative
Goddess 12/10/2017, 6:38:00 AM
I am also going to a major political conference soon since I am better now
It is a student right wing conference
Ladies & gentlemen, the owner & undisputed authority of your SFP Discord is a right-wing racist lunatic, who has the urge to kill people & isn't afraid to say so! What a horror story!
It should now be clearly understood that these above mentioned people are bashing out against me for calling them for what they are: shameless racists & fascist. Please do remember: it was not me wearing a Waffen SS Nazi-fascist avatar (cough, cough shiloh13, cough, cough!), refusing to remove it. It was not me streaming Hitler speeches in the voice channel of this Discord. It was not me stating in the in-game feed of the party that "Uncle Adolf" did nothing wrong & it certainly was not me putting these words into their mouths. But what we haven't seen so far: the party leadership distancing themselves from such abhorrent practices & persistent inhumane propaganda of the worse kind! This is sad, in deed.
So, are more facts needed to help you draw your own conclusion, or was this enough? Personally, I had a hard time in the process of writing; reading what some of our members are proclaiming made me feel uneasy & I got a bad feeling in my stomach, because of such statements. But if we all turn a blind eye, nothing will change! And I hope so much that even these folks will change, after realizing their wrongs & opening their minds for alternative views, not based on prejudice & hate.
The Socialist Freedom Party should be much better then this & every meta-environment we chose, forum or chat, should mirror the values we stand for: freedom, equality, solidarity, democracy, inclusion & a deep, profound urge to help one another, making the game-play more enjoyable.
This is my mission, this is what I'm fighting for! In the next article of this series I will speak less about the current state of the party, but emphasize more on the road I want the SFP to travel upon, outline my plans & concrete moves I will undertake, if you chose to elect me as your next party president. I will be needing all the help & support I can get.
Until then, enjoy the "calm before the storm"!
Yours truly
~Rosa
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I am working up an article on the elitest shiloh, the one with the avater of the german soldier in the ardennes 1944, you know, the battle where US soldiers surrendered and where massacred ... please share image of his waffen ss idol (if possible)
The only thing I have is his avatar. You might try using it with the Google service of finding similar images.
I have, already, it is from the Bugle, same face in several photos - used in video games as well - not an expert, so unwilling to say IT IS a SS uniform, but remember US soldiers take an oath to uphold the US constitution, where as german soldiers (non - SS) took an oath to blindly follow Hilter's orders.
Well, what I don't understan😛 why would you use this kind of avatar, and the pretext of him is "to show the tragedy of WW2" and not use one of the many pictures of US soldiers. Isn't such an explanation fishy?
not if you are pro nazi
I am looking forward to the article George.
Yes you are correct it is from the Ardennes 1944.
On a side note I am sorry about your dog.
I know what that is like.
It is not easy. I had to make that choice a couple of years ago with my best friend. In the end it was the right choice. But it still hurts and I still miss him so much.
SFP really is becoming just another bunch of nihilists. Oh how the epistemes have changed..
I expected more from them. They repeat the behavior from the congressional forums they were so staunchly opposed to at the time. Very sad.
The racism is mind-blowing. And the fact they get away with it even more. thanks for the comment!
It's a violation of the law to copy a conversation, where we had the expectation of privacy.
So, what's the point of this criminal act? Has someone offended you?
It's all from the public Discord channel, try again!
A better effort would be if you would consider changing some of your views & attitude!
Criminal? Pfffffffffffff
Quotation of private discussion without the consent of those parties involved is prohibited by law.
I don't really care enough to do anything about it, though.
Read the quotes again & then meditate about law, please.
Since when is a public chat private?
so is under age drinking - how is that one working?
on the f-cking internet, you are f-cking delusional ... who the f-ck expects privacy online when your own government (RL one) tracks all conversations for RL terrorist threats ... you have an above average idiot
And I thought you were Aramec?!
Welcome back, George, nice to see you again. How is your cute dog doing?
he is almost 16 and age has caught up with him ... I love him more than I can describe and have to face a hard decision sooner than I am ready to. Thank you for remembering him and the kind words.
Privacy law is very complex, at least in my nation. If erep/discord servers are not in the US, it becomes even more difficult for you.
As my grandmother used to say, dont speak the words if you dont want to be known for them.
You know we all have something in common. You say you dont hate but you do you hate that we insinuate that you are wrong and so do I. See common ground.
They dont call us Deep State for nothing! Meta all the way!
You are so wrong, I don't hate.
Enjoy the calm before the storm, Mr. Meta-Deep-State!
What is seriously wrong with Ilene???? Does she think she’s Mother Theresa or something? Taking Phail’s defense because he says he will behave... Naive.
Good call to ban him from SFP discord channel, I call this leadership from their PP.
No opinion about CG, never did anything to me, but I guess SFP leadership know what they are doing.
I think your reading comprehension failed you terribly. How else could you write such a comment??
Are you contemplating about the next unsuccessful EZC political-apolitical-whatever run for the T5?
PM Melissa & Pfeiffer to move their multis, that might help.
Thanks for the comment, anyway.
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Yeah, good idea, thanks for the tip.
You're welcome.
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^ Actually, it just double posted the same comment. Thought it'd get rid of it.
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The more, the merrier 😉
Thanks for the endorsement!
I think this article is pretty spot on. I don't see much difference from the elite banning Franklin, to the SFP banning Rosa or I. I don't think it is good for the community or anyone else. Politically shameful if you ask me.
You speak my mind! ❤
But there's one big difference: our party's guidelines & constitution are diametrically opposed to this kind of behavior.
Not sure about the elite ones.
Exactly. If I have someone in my party that I want removed, he will be ruthlessly persecuted until he leaves or quits. SFP however is at its core known for fundamentally opposing such behavior, always calling for respect and tolerance of non-standard opinions / persons - very admirable and virtuous I would say.
A pity they traded it for the easy road.
I could call this road the "highway to hell", couldn't i?
contrary actions to the meanings of socialism upset us
True! ❤
Hmmmm
Supposedly banned from discord
But able to release convos?
Something doesn't add up here Phil,I think you're fibbing.
Is the fact that I have friends among our members, who supply me with logs & screenshots something that surprises you?
They ofc fear they will be treated as me, if they speak up - get it?!
Is this your biggest worry??
No statement about your "brilliant" posts I have quoted?
No refute?
No denial?
Interesting!
Oh, and btw: my name is Rosa 😉
This was very clearly a refutation Phil.You have no way of knowing anything that goes on in there.
Sure pal. Therefor all these accurate quotes.
Go prepare another Adolf speech to stream, hurry up!
vote, is all of this for real or is it paranormal, what I am reading here, I can't figure out.
100% accurate, sadly!
Rosa writing this as an SFP article is the same as CGS writing an article as if it were from the eUS Gov. If parties could kick ppl Phil, Rosa, VT, or whatever account you buy next after this one gets banned, would be kicked to the curb like the trash you are. Everyone please, recognize this for what it is...A Troll, Trolling,.. Pumpkin person seems to have joined with him, don't buy into their BS and "Dont feed the trolls!" otherwise they are creating the chaos they want and sit back and laugh. They will try to hook you, bait you in, with something you might agree with or share similar sentiment, then fill you with crap .. Dont take the bite.
This article seems like a genuine effort to reconcile given the treatment of Frank by the elites. I think the SFP is big enough for everyone.
Let' see:
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TheNorm 11/26/2017, 6:24:19 AM
there is no good reason that anyone who want to have you involved .. period, sorry.. I'm sorry it comes to this, i don't want to hurt you or anyone, but the things you have been doing are not acceptable behavior
Leon Gutierez 11/26/2017, 6:24:23 AM
so my concern is, this is an interesting situation; if it is written in there; its kind of what ComieCo wrote, it's formality. Under section four, Phil is allowed due to this " Active SFP members who are former Party Presidents." ?
Harcourt Fenton Mudd 11/26/2017, 6:24:28 AM
Phil is an active former PP, so he should be a non-voting members of the RC per the SFP’s constitution. Feelings don’t factor into it.
Leon Gutierez 11/26/2017, 6:24:52 AM
Yeah, thats how it seems at least written out.
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This one is even more brilliant:
TheNorm 11/24/2017, 3:09:02 PM
as for the SFPOM, if you could mention how the party is working on some internal reform and moving forward by going backward to some of the more positive time of our roots
Care to comment, Norm?
Are you 'rosa' Phil Harmony ? You have never publicly acknowledged this as doing so would admittance by you that you were using multiple accounts. Also as a side note, any actions taken against you were by the SFP by vote, no single person made a decision to ban you from our Forum and Discord. Also for the record I wasn't the person that did either of those but I did vote yes to both. If anyone has any questions for me, they can message me and talk to me. I am not going to 'waste my breath' in an endless cycle with you as your only goal is to divide, insult, and continue to troll causing issues. WARNING: "Don't feed the trolls!"
Can you please tell me where in our SFP Constitution I can find the procedures or words "blacklisting" or "banning"?
Much obliged!
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the reality is you were banned from the forum and discord because of your personal attacks against other members.
For months you have attacked, ridiculed,made homophobic slurs,threats,and over all nasty statements like an unhinged meth monkey. In RL if you spewed that crap face to face you would end up searching for your teeth scattered on the floor.
You were not banned because of any political discourse or having a different take on how the Party should be run.
You were banned because of your over the top and asshat behavior Phillip.
And yet here we are with you playing the victim card, how precious.
at the end of the day SFP is being used by you as a vehicle to push your crazed agenda.
You act like a spoiled little child throwing tantrums whenever you do not get your way.
ie not being elected PP.
Most people see through your little routine.
But hey by all means do carry on.
I don' respond to lies, slander & classless trolling. Sorry, pal.