**Privatized Healthcare in eCanada**
Day 660, 00:10
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by Alaricus
This is in response to TemujinBC's recent article called CLM Volume 3 Freedom Isn't Free.
Viewers, read those first, before continuing to read my Article.
You brought up many good points, some I agree with, and some I don't. Let me first explain a little bit about where I am coming from.
I was born when Canada was all but taken. I was born a French citizen, on day 627. I grew up in a time where there was no Canada, and it was confusing. I can honestly say, Canada was in disarray. I remember the first thing I read, cannot remember who it was from, but it was in an article. It went along the lines of, "You can't fight something that isn't there". Canada was off the map, and it was horrible to see my country like this, but it was also such an amazing experience to see, help, and fight for all our provinces back. I think growing up in such a time has made me stronger actually.
Now I see both sides to this.
Rylde is saying, that the funds should go to the war effort, and I kind of agree with him. Before we can start rebuilding, we need to have ALL of our provinces back, and make sure we will not be attacked as soon as this has happened. Why? Because in the past I have seen nations build hospitals(Lots of Money), only to be destroyed a week later by another invading country. *Cough* Russia *cough* California *Cough*
Building a hospital now is like gambling with your money, whether it be the money of the Governments or a bunch of good Samaritans. It doesn't matter.
Even if this hospital was built by Businessman who are not supported or funded by the government, it still could be destroyed in a short amount of time. All that gold could have been put elsewhere. We could be attacked at any time, specifically by Iran or Hungary.
If we did not have a Hospital, I would agree with you, but we have one in Alberta, and it is sufficient enough in times of war. Now, yes it sort of destabilizes the economy, because everyone floods to Alberta, but the economy is already destabilized, because we are in a time of war. The fact is, we need to make sure WWIII is over, before we can rebuild hospitals all over the place.
In regards to the Taxes, well, how do you think the government gets funded? In a time of war, those taxes are crucial, and taking them away would cripple their power. So NO to the tax cut in my Opinion.
Now, am I against Private Health Care(As I like to put it)?
No.
Why? because if a group of people want to get together and build hospitals for Canada, using there own money, then who am I to say no. Hell, they should be given a medal for doing Canada a service, but do so with the Taxes still flowing to the government, and do so when Canada is not still occupied.
Food For Thought.
Stay Strong Canadians
Alaricus Out.
PS- Q5 or None at all
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Comments
*FIRST*
Well put.
Thanks.
Good one Alaricus. I want to see hospitals everywhere in Canada, but not until we can protect them.
Just remember to go Q5 or none at all
Indeed, I agree.
Did you see Obama's speech to the US congress (IRL)?
dude was on fire all the way
Good points, IMHO.
Though I might argue that Q2s in Quebec and Ontario would help with evac efforts (which for me, never end for some reason).
Yup Q5 hospital from me in BC asap 😛 well most likly after the war anyways
i realize the logic of Q5 or none at all.
but if we are going to have regions with no hospital at all (not even a q2 for noob wellness building) then we sure as hell better have a free moving program for all low wellness noobs (which can only be used once) so that we can fly noobs who start outside the Q5 hospital network into it to gain wellness.
otherwise business suffers from low wellness workers.
that was my biggest frustration during my first try at running a company. one of my low wellness employee's worked in a region of greece with a crap hospital (or no hospital at all i cant remember) and so despite his best efforts and my piles of gifts he just could not get his wellness up.
Well done. And your point about it being a huge gamble is valid. Though I cannot but think it is their dough to gamble. Unfortunatly we do ont even have the option apart from government sanction. What a great conversation this continues to be.
@ Slave
It happened to me when I was a noob, I remember the whole first 10 levels having a wellness of 40. It just costs so much for such a low quality hospital, I just can't see it being that efficient, but then again, I may be wrong. I mean, when we finally build a hospital, we should build a Q 5 and be done.
Jacobi has stated that he will be building 2 more hospitals in the future. 2 Q5 hospitals in Quebec and Ontario, which is logical. But I would like to see one on the east coast as well.
@ Temujin
Indeed, I am with you regarding the government sanction, I realize the government would like to be the one controlling that, but I do not see how letting a bunch of citizens using there own money to create a hospital or two for Canada is a bad thing.
I'll build a hospital whereever people want if they're providing the money for it.
I'm just going to caution them that our population is easier to defend in three regions than five or ten or thirteen. Regional identity, as awesome as it is, doesn't mesh well with erepublik strategic considerations.
@Jacobi
You are right. 100%
'If we did not have a Hospital, I would agree with you, but we have one in Alberta, and it is sufficient enough in times of war. Now, yes it sort of destabilizes the economy, because everyone floods to Alberta, but the economy is already destabilized, because we are in a time of war. The fact is, we need to make sure WWIII is over, before we can rebuild hospitals all over the place.'
I don't understand at all how people flocking to alberta would destabilize the economy in any way, shape, or form. You don't have to live in a province to work there. I can live in alberta, take a job in newfoundland, and have no problem. The game mechanics are so messed up that way that it isn't even funny.
That's f*cked up, did not even know that Doug. That makes no sense, they should change that. I live in BC, and make a long a$$ commute to Prince Edward island, lol
The fact is that people do choose to live outside Alberta, and we have a large number of low-wellness workers because of the lack of hospitals. A Q5 hospital in Ontario or Quebec would pay for itself in less than a month, and then continue to help generate positive revenue.
Why people would choose to live outside of Alberta is beyond me, but whatever. Especially if it does not matter where you reside regarding jobs in Canada. Do what you want, but do not start crying if the hospital is in ruins within the next couple weeks.
I have to agree, I have never understood why anyone would live in a province without a Q5 hospital, as far as I am concerned you only screw over the country by doing so. You cannot fight as often, or you drag down the economy. Q5 or nothing has always made sense to me.
And if we got a really really good offer for a Q4 hospital from Romania what would you say? 😉
Gotta see big picture, folks. Q5 hospitals, defense systems, AND a resettling program are what's needed.
Invaders can't arrive from just anywhere ... they have to come from regions adjacent to those they're invading. Discounting invasion from the eUS, that means they can come from Asia (through Alaska) or from Europe (through NL and NS). That means that THOSE entry points are the ones that need to be fortified.
1. The need for Q5 hospitals there is obvious. Warriors must be able to fight and heal, period.
2. On defence: each resident adds 100 points to the defence wall, so more people means better defence, even if not everyone fights.
3. Defence systems, logically enough, enhance defensive ability. Each quality level raises the defensive wall by 10% (or the 100 points contributed by each resident,I don't remember).
If we're to defend our borders effectively, we have to have hospitals, residents, and defence systems where it matters: at invasion-route choke points (bottlenecks) and that means Alaska, Newfoundland-Labrador, and Nova Scotia.
Once we secure those, we can also think of doubling up our defenses by taking and building up choke points overseas. Those points are far eastern Russia (whatever that region's called), Scotland (UK), probably Wales (UK) ... don't remember, most of Ireland, and the Pays de la Loire. But as you can see, the number of adjoining regions overseas is much greater than the number of entry points at home (three ... AK, NL, and NS), so going overseas is debatable. At the very least, making peace with Ireland will be much less demanding than invading it and securing several regions there.
And of course, the US would have to fortify its choke points.
Cheers!
MZ
One of the first things I did upon joining the game, was purchase a 20 pack of gold from the eStore. I thought that a bit of real money spent would help the game experience. Then I discovered wellness packs, and blew a lot of dough getting my wellness high, ten points at a time!
It's unfortunate that a Q5 hospital cannot be utilized apart from war. Unless I'm a total noob and am missing something, I've got to fight at least one battle before I can heal. So a level 2,3,4 player cannot even access the hospital no matter if they live in Alberta. This is neither free, nor fair (heh!).
It ought to cost a person something in order to heal at the hospital. I cannot say what an appropriate amount would be, but if the market were "opened up" to private providers, I have to think that competition would result in reduced costs. I mean, look at the food and weapons market for cryin' out loud. TaiwanPanda has almost single-handedly brought down the average market price on both (as far as I can tell). It's $5.03 cents CAD for a Q1 weapon right now, two days ago it was around $5.50. Q1 food is dirt cheap. I was donated 4 pieces on my second day, and the price is even less than it was then.
Jacobi makes an interesting point about regional identities. It is completely irrational for me to be so strung up on eBC, yet I do.
@ Noyst, I could live with a Q4, and perhaps even a Q3, but anything lower is just a waste in my honest opinion.
@Temujiin, LOL you should have seen the Q1 prices of food when I was born, it was up to 10 CAD, which is the price of Q5 food currently.
I mention it, because we do have an offer to buy a Q4 hospital at an insanley cheap price and congress is disccussing it right now 😉
http://ecanada.ws/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&p=34502#p34502" target="_blank">http://ecanada.ws/forums/viewtopic.php?f[..]4502
The price is about two days worth of tax income, which is simply a deal we can't turn down 😛
As for hospital usage, there is a way to use them without going to war, it's called a training war 😃
As a matter of fact, Canada was about to enter a training war with Malaysia, but that was right before the real war broke out 😛
@ Noyst, I read the meeting, I agree with most there. Putting it in east coast region would be nice, especially since Ontario and Quebec are expecting a Q%(Words of Jacobi), and plus, most east coast regions cannot be attacked, right? lol
Training wars, you say?
I could not imagine paying 10 CAD for a Q1 food! Recently I bought a Q1 house. I can well imagine the market on houses has come down a lot too.
Training wars is basically when countries attack each other specifically so the populace gas a chance to fight. No regions are take in a training war. For example, when I started playing we had training wars with Ireland. We split the costs and they attacked Newfoundland, but made sure that they didn't win 😉
Yea, prices where exceedingly terrible in Canada after we where conquered. I'd say us congress members deserve a pat on the back for reorganizing taxes eh? 😛 Lol, jk, the tax changes helped, but what really did it was the reconquest of most of our regions, you can thank EDEN for that 🙂
Yea, there having a training war in Germany and Hungary right now.
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