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Motion 1 - Nay
Motion 2 - Yay

Aye even... 😃

Please make it clear, I have to add all these up!

Sorry, Motion 2 should have read 'Aye'

1. Yes
2. No

Personally, 5 gold won't motivate me at all, but maybe it will motivate some others and those who decide to vote for everything in this Mickey Mouse Congress, they should be rewarded...

Rewarded for doing the bare minimum their position requires? Oh PN, how far you have fallen..

Boaty McSmugface, eUK's highest moral authority 😘

I call for a public referendum to be held on the subject of Congress Members receiving rewards. Its undemocratic for Congress to simply decide to vote to give themselves financial rewards. I believe we have precedent for this kind of thing, with referendums held months back to decide whether Congress should carry over during a wipe after it was decided that Congress couldn't just vote themselves into existence.

Normally I would oppose referendums as a means to make policy, but on occasions when Congress' proposal is one they have a vested interest in (such as voting themselves financial rewards), its the only way.

I would propose a referendum for you to go fuck yourself, is that allowed?

Maybe we should have a referendum on whether PN has lost all credibilty. Rails against congress for months but the second there is the prospect of getting cash for himself, he's all for it

For myself? I don't even vote regularly 😘

I think there could be even more difficulty for us in ensuring the outcome of any such referendum, particularly if there was a yes vote, was implemented than there is in ensuring we leave the EU.

Maybe it would have been useful if you could have had that brainstorm during the collective discussions, the ones that went on for too long that ministers were getting frustrated with the progress. Congress doesn't directly benefit as there is no guarantee of them being elected next month. Whilst typically the Speaker's position is considered marginally safer, I've ensured (with no assistance) that the Speaker doesn't benefit under either proposal. Therefore I reject your call for a referendum which only slows congress business down, there is a wealth of difference between not agreeing with something and seeking to enact protocols because it fits an agenda.

Surely on this issue speed is not important? We have over 10 days till the next congress election, we can afford to take our time. A referendum would take no longer than 48hrs to execute.

Of course Congress stands to benefit. Yes there is no guarantee they are re-elected, but each month there is only a small amount of change. Most people in the current congress will be in the next.

"if you could have had that brainstorm during the collective discussions"

This is the collective discussion. A discussion on this issue should not have even happened in the Congress PMs since it isn't a sensitive discussion (and you should publish the logs from the discussions now as a matter of course) - this now is the formal debate.

The speaker makes the decision over the forum for initial debate and the form of motions made public. The speaker decides if something is sensitive. The government has already agreed to not block congress should it pass this motion on vote. Therefore a misplaced attempt to sound authoritative on this matter is unhelpful and misguided. No logs, no referendum.

Have you actually read the act that governs the speakership?

Yes I have read the act that governs the speakership, in fact I'm versed in the entire statute book. In fact only the other day I spent Speaker time looking into who has responsibility for the NMU for the benefit of the MoD, so I'm pretty confident in my ability to work within the framework established. Regardless of my opinion on the matter, the Speaker has a specific job to perform, the hallmark being impartiality and representation of the majority through open voting.

Looks like this whole congress rewarding itself thing could end up being pretty divisive.

For the record, I'm against it.

Motion 1 Aye
Motion 2 no

At last a meaningful vote

I vote Motion 1 Aye
and Motion 2 Nay

"Result: Aye's have it, note that this supersedes motion 1 leaving ministers to implement either of the motions as worded"

We will probably raise the rate to 10% for a week and report our studies back to Parliament.

Aye,Aye

Motion 1 - Nay
Motion 2 - Aye

In addition I very much agree with proposals Certacito has suggested on the CP's article for an honours system - http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/2605577/1/20

1 Nay
2 Nay

1) Aye
2) Nay

what if they both pass?

Motion 1: Aye
Motion 2: Aye

Motion #1 - Aye
Motion #2 - Nay

Motion #1 - Aye
Motion #2 - Nay

Is the dictator getting any gold? I am not sure how the game works here.
And if yes, what happens with that gold?

The dictator gets gold from medals. As that cash doesn't come out of our coffers I'd say the dictator is entitled to do what they want with it seeing as it's their money and hasn't come out of anybody else's pocket. *shoots sideways glare at congressmen*

He is entitled to do what he wants with it,but he never helps out new players with it,if I was getting free gold I would.

well whoop de doo for you, moral Mary

moral Mary ftw

not helping out new players? have you ever read the bottom of a woldy article?

The best is not to have a dictator, or if yes, give it to the elected CP, but thanks to Boaty no one wants that anymore...

Motion #1 - Aye
Motion #2 - Nay

1) Aye
2) Nay

Nice to see congress,congressing.

I vote 1) Aye 2)Nay

1 Nay
2 Nay

yes to a 1 month trial only
no

i think the public should have the final vote to decide if we pay ourselves gold for doing the minimum work expected

tis a rare occasion I can shake dougal's hand

1 Aye
2 Aye

1 aye
2 nay

sooooooooooooooo late !

but im agree with taxes and leaving pluto
must of done on last terms

join pacifica

I agree with you about Pacifica...but I think the people that are usually in power are more of an Adriatica fans.

can think of AMD, who else?

so long as I'm in downing street we'll stay neutral

im actually pro pacifica

I'm just a fan of not siding with countries that bully estonia for years tbh