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Suvisno je komentarisati ovakve razloge koje je CoT izneo, ali evo da budem PRVI, zasto da ne?

Nije to CoT naveo kao razloge, nego su to komentari ljudi sa teksta o odbijanju CG. Zbog opšte informisanosti, morao sam da navedem ova 3 stava koja su se mogla naći u komentare i da ih demantujem.

Hail eMontenegro
Hail eMacedonia

o7

Istina, sada sam pogledao taj clanak.
Mislio sam da pored glasanja, treba izneti i cvrste razloge clanica koje su glasale protiv.
Ako uporedimo eCrnu Goru sa nekim drugim clanicama tog saveza, mislim da ne postoji jasan razlog zbog koga je usledilo odbijanje.

People who comment most of them don't know what is really happening in Montenegro.

I have a few questions if you like to answer:

Why a guy like Balkan Ruller was a mofa of Montenegro? Fact that he's a Croat wouldn't be a problem if he wasn't a provocator instead of a mofa. See, the main purpose of diplomacy is to soften and turn enemies into friends and not friends into enemies.

Also why Montenegro attacked Serbia? This also happened while Bulgaria and Macedonia were involved in a very heavy war with Greece.

On the thing how small or big you are I won't comment because I don't think it matters i'm just trying to figure out if Montenegro is a stable country and some things which happened in the last weeks rise certain questions.

o7 i hope we will see you in COT soon !

I still believe that Montenegro deserve a chance to prove itself \o/
Hail Montenegro!

Wildrunner questions are good, clearing those points, explaining well to all comunity sure will help a lot

People who comment most of them don't know what is really happening in Montenegro.

I have a few questions if you like to answer:

Why a guy like Balkan Ruller was a mofa of Montenegro? Fact that he's a Croat wouldn't be a problem if he wasn't a provocator instead of a mofa. See, the main purpose of diplomacy is to soften and turn enemies into friends and not friends into enemies.

Also why Montenegro attacked Serbia? This also happened while Bulgaria and Macedonia were involved in a very heavy war with Greece. х2

Ajde Zeljko izvredjaj i njih kao sto si nas vredjao dok smo postavljali ista pitanja.
e moja crna eCrna Goro : (

stani, aj dogovor hocemo li da im se supkamo ili da ih nabijamo... kako koji dan, drugi vjetar

@Wildrunner
I feel responsible to answer these questions, because I know Balkan Ruller and I was familiar with the situation between eMontenegro and eSerbia. Firstly, Balkan Ruller is my friend, and so far as I could see, he wasn't a provocator, but a person who helped eMontenegro more than many Montenegrins will ever do. He was the main clamp between us and the member States of COT, and he put a lot of effort to make our path to COT successful. I don't want to justify his behaviour, but I want to say that we all make mistakes, even when think they won't be harmful. He didn't put that avatar to provoke Serbian people, but to express his happiness about recent events in Croatia.

Of course it wasn't the way MOFA should behave, but obviously the president of eSerbia wanted to show his power so he sent an ultimatum, instead of talking and tryind to tranquillize the tensions.
Interesting, you mentioned only eMontenegro as the main offender, but you didn't mention (or you don't know) what realy happened between us and eSerbia. It's a long story so I will try to shorten it. We gave our region to eSerbia so they could link their resources in Italy. They broke the deadline, and they didn't want to return it, so the root of the problem is there, and that happened before Balkan Ruller's excess.

You must percieve this situation from all aspects, and then you can draw a conclusion. Don't be superficial.

Alllo kome imamo sto da se pravdamo, ej boli na s...za COT i smecare, sto cemo sad da om se supkamo da udjemo...
Ako sam i bio za ulazak sada nijesam, a mislim da i vecina nije za COT.
FUCK them all!!!
fuck COT

Dina.Klik, jedino je crna tvoja majka što te rodila takvu punu mržnje. More mrš odavde, bagro jedna, nemoj mi se praviti fina ovdje, poslije svih uvreda koje si uputila CG po našim novinama. Tebi se neće niko pravdat'. Niti zalužuješ bilo kakvo objašnjenje. I toliko si nebitna da je to neopisivo.

Ovakvih neljudi samo mogu ovđe viđet.

NBaki explained everything very well.

Pazi...
Da ti nesta kazem...

Ja rekoG da se suzdrzite spoljnopolitickih ispada... Mada clanak to nije, komentari jesu - . -

@Dina.klik and Wildrunner

The fact is that Serbia was first one who proposed NE to us, and who, move us to one bad situation, since we hasnt able congressmenst to stop our NE , as Serbia did. Thats how it becomes Montenegro attacks Serbia, sadly. Now, I dont see how Serbia or any other country has right to choose who will Montenegro get as MoFa or some other possition in government?

Ofcourse, it was scandal about that avatar and we do our best to make that incident as mistake of one person, not whole government.

Montenegro is small and weak, but it doesnt give right to bigger countries to choose our members of government. Thats why we are today almost alone...

Again thx to Macedonians , their government and support that they show us in prevous and next period, also as all other people even from Serbia that are not proud on moves of their prevous government.

Im glad to say, that Montenegro left in past all bad things and we want to have new relations , but we will not fall down on knees to get any1s protection.

We will deserve it... 0 /

ne daj boze da imate ovakvu moc u RL.. bili bi gori od amerike...

Wildrunner, DO in Montenegro was on Makedonia and Bulgaria in these days. My top dmg in campaign was on Bulgaria.

znate sta, ako kinezi pocnu ovo masovno da igraju mi smo svi pukli... 🙂

NBaki has explained everything 100% corect, and about Wildrunner he allways provocate my cuz i was doing the same to him when i was in eTurkey, and he hated me then because of bulgarian-turkish conflict and it lasted until now...
well Wildrunner you can do the better then that 😉

sakas da ga lapnes bez da ga pipnes? : )

xaxaxaxaxaxa omg... COT dont be afgraidddd

@Dina
Daj se nekom Crnogorcu da te nauči životu!


Hail Montenegro!
Hail Macedonia!

Hail eMontenegro
Hail eMacedonia

o7

Nece vam dati ni probno clanstvo jer vas ne shvataju ozbiljno... Previse ste pasivna drzava, morate da radite na dovodjenju novih igraca, a potom da od njih napravite vojnike, itd...
Niste valjda ocekivali da cete moci uci u savez i odvlaciti stetu saveznicima bez imalo truda???
Pogledajte primer eSrbije, ne bismo mi bili ovoliko jaka drzava da nismo radili (tj. da Lipec nije radio) na dovodjenju novih igraca... :😁

Govorim vam iskreno... Na eCG gledam kao na prijateljsku drzavu i verujem da je korisnije da vam dam jedan dobronameran savet umesto da pljujem po CoT-u sto vas nije primio...
Dakle, ako zelite da udjete u neki savez, ostale drzave moraju da vas shvate ozbiljno, a to cete postici ako dovede dosta novih igraca i napravite makar prve dve divizije dovoljno jake da budu od koristi vasim saveznicima... Nece oni vas primiti zato sto ste im dragi, svaki savez se formira iz interesa, prijateljstvo kasnije dolazi...

VugiBgd,

Da li zaista misliš da nijesmo toga svjesni? : )


Mi jesmo pokušali da napravimo BB i u neku ruku nam je uspjelo, bilo je nekih 60, 70ak novih igrača, ali incident sa eSrbijom i brisanje je prouzrokovalo da ljudi odustanu.

Nas ima više nego što to eRepublik trenutno pokazuje, zato što je dosta naših u druge države, zbog resursa, ne bi li ojačali (prvenstvno mislim na igrače sa fabrikama koje su namijenje jedinicama).

Nama nije prednost broj, ali možda jeste u starosti igrača, to jest u broju onih koji su u diviziji 3 ili 4 - ipak je bolje pomoći u bodovima 3 i 5, nego 1 ili 2 - iako ovi zadnji mogu biti presudni.

Lično, ne očekujem da CG ''vuče'' bilo kakvu štetu i vrlo smo svjesni da zbog svoje veličine ne bi bili prioritetni niti u jednom savezu, ali da smo makar mogli biti trial member i da nam se dala šansa da se pokažemo mjesec dana, vjeruj mi da bi to odradili kako valja.

Ja sam i dalje da se pokuša i da se za naredna mjeseca sredi šta se ima srediti, samo se nadam da pojedini neće to obstruisati (poput YoSoyItachi, koji na svaki članak đe se pomene CG pljuje po nama - takvi ''saveznici poput pomenutog nam ne trebaju).

Drago mi je što ima ljudi i iz Srbije koji će pored svega, pomagati eCG, a budite sigurni da uz međusobno poštovanje, i CG će pokazati spremnost da maksimalno sarađuje. Naš influence nije tako zanemarljiv, pogotovo kod zajedničkih udara.

I pogledaj nam trenutni budžet i biće ti sve jasno zašto je teško biti građanin eCG ili bilo koje male države slične našoj. : )

I aprove your denial.
Imagine the situation, where you attack Serbia again, and as you are member of CoT we would have to fight for you, and destroy all work done in friendship of CoT and Two.

This would give chance for Eden to take advantage and restore their states and colonies.
You are simply not worth of that risk.

It is not bcz you are small country, we have even smaller or PTOed countries in alliance now.

Just fix that issues and you will have our support.

PegazisBg, you only have one side of the story, as I may see. That attack was a mistake of our congressmen. Next time, that would not be a case, I am sure!! And I don't believe how people look at that issue like we are some big treat to eSerbia, even we are gonna to fight with them. Please...
No one from Montenegro is asking CoT to defend us against Serbia or any other TWO country. Amog all problems, Montenegrins still find Serbia as a friends, you can find it on poll of favorite countries of Montenegro, which I made couple a days ago in newspaper of Ministry of Education.

Then we have no problem, but as you can see voting in CoT was not anonymus in your favour, and i think some pro-Serbian states (Pto-ed) voted No for you, i hope next time it will be different o7

And I hope to. We just wanted a chance, we don't expect to be a priority. Not only I expect to see a change on opinion in other countries, I hope that will happen in Bulgaria - as you can see, 12 congressmen vote NO to MPP with Montenegro. And that's not a surprise, because people think that we are the problem in relation Montenegro-Serbia. Both are fault, not one. And I'm glad that thing are better know - for God sake, we should be the closest countries in whole eRep, but some people, nacionalists, won't let some thing get fixed!

Hail eMontenegro
Hail eMacedonia

o7

None of the 3 reasons you mentioned is the reason your trial membership was denied, especially the third one is absurd!!
Try harder, help each on of the member-states and after 3 months (by Charter) you can apply again. I am sure results will be different.

@Skyrunner7

We can't play hide and seek here.

COT is supposed to be a serious alliance, and we must know the reasons for our denial. We also want to see the results of voting.
It realy seems suspicious when somebody tells you that your application is denied without mentioning any reason.

sakas da ga lapnes bez da ga pipnes? : )
____

Well this is your so called "mofa". Sure noone can tell you who you should have as a mofa or CP but be ready to face the consequences of having such people in power.

Wildrunner

and you are?

For the next 3 months we are on trial membership for trial membership xD

Wildrunner i'm not MoFA anymore and i can do whatever i can and u are just troll who dont have influence nowhere : P

Balkan Ruller, but unlike me you do have an influence. The influence to wipe out Montenegro, leave them without congress and create conflicts left and right.

Wildrunner, as you see, when you dont do everything as they wish, they start insulting... Its already in few comments, and if CoT refuses them again, it would be full of hatefull disgusting insults. Also, the story about "congresmans making a mistake", they got like 40 active citizens, and the NE passed through their congress, 1 congresman, or 2, can make a mistake, but not a 2/3 mayority of them. I tryed talking with them in a normal way, but they arent able to do anything except to insult. They showed it with Serbia, now they are showing it with CoT, slowly but surely. Back in time, we had good relations with them, but now sadly not. When the situation there changes, i will be happy to help them too, but for now they really dont deserve any help. I was actualy thinking that maybe what the croat wants is to get them into CoT and then provoke another war with Serbia, so that the relations of TWO and CoT might be spoiled.

YoSoyItachi Crnogorce, kako je? Oce li to?

As one of the offical representatives of CoT this month I would like to again express my best wishes to Montenegro. As it was mentioned in the comments under this article, you should not take comments about the reasons your trial membership was denied under the official CoT article, as a true reason. I can't give you the information you wish regarding who and why voted against due to the fact that voting is a private manner and it has to be kept that way to ensure every member of the alliance feels safe and can make their own decision, without being forced into it by the public. I hope you can understand that. And I'm sure as members you would be grateful for it also.

As Skyrunner7 mentioned and as I wrote to your CP, you will be able to aplly again in 3 months. In that time we hope your relationship with all the member countries will improve and we will hopefully be able to correct this. I've also given your CP a chance to talk to us about the reasons or better yet to help him improve on the relationship. The offer still stands if he decides to take it.

Best regards,
Lotus Black
CoT SC