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Nah Kashmir you can fight as much as you want

Yes, this isn't in NAP !

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We should've just let the Indians keep it at least they considered it an honorable possession instead of using it as a causus belli to shove the whole nation into a bloody war of attrition on 2 fronts that cost us dearly. In short the government of DPP has weakened Pakistan domestically, internationally and monetarily.

Casus belli you mean. How exactly has the DPP weakened ePakistan Domestically, Internationally and monetarily? I would really like to hear your points on how DPP has caused such losses. Can we have a civilized debate on the matter?

Yes old chap we can.

Casus belli means 'cause of war/conflict' in latin.

Well domestically the political strife has been resurrected within the country as partisan politics has come back despite strong efforts to bury it several times due to the NAP/China war and difference of opinions on friendship w/ China.

Internationally it seems we are bowing down to China hence weakened, I dunno how it'll be seen in Serbia too....any info?

Well monetarily we did lose a lot by fighting on two fronts and more will be lost when India RWs. I hope the new taxing system will fill the country coffers enough to suppress the Indian revolt.

This just makes you wonder what would happen if there were a national unified MU that'd have a strong supply and would split up the spoils of war together or centrally to enhance the supplies.

I for 1 am all in favor of a national MU under strict central surveillance w/o any political affiliation for putting up a stronger Pakistani army for future conflicts.

I know what Casus Belli means old chap. I was simply correcting you as you had written "causus belli". Please save up your energy for a live debate. I would like to invite everyone else to join in or merely spectate. Pakistan on rizon seems like a good venue to host such an event. What time is most convenient for you on the 16th?

I'm usually on at midnight or 1 am?

I read your arguments and I just have to say that you still don't understand the bigger picture. The difference of opinion that arises in ePak today is due to the sole fact that some people are ignorant. I know that it is quite difficult to understand FA politics when people are out of the loop and not actively participating either in the government or even making a humble effort to listen to the real reasons for certain strategies. But generic comments like "DPP has weakened Pakistan" etc is just BULLSH1T and comes from a place of political animosity.