[MC]WHAT ON EARTH IS GOING ON?!?!
Michael Crookes
Hello eWorld!
*EDIT*
This article was written to talk about a situation that was going on within the eUK in an attempt to keep the general populace informed as to what is going on in the eworld. Needless to say, things change fast and since this article was posted alot has chnaged. I have left the original article below for people to read if they are interested but I should make some clarifications:
-After some negotiation, Big Ant has managed to iron out a number of the problems with Ireland and so the result is that the eUK will be entering a training war with Ireland in the coming days.
-Big ant has issued an apology to the belgian people and government for attacking too early and as a result the Belgians have retracted their threats of war etc.
-To see the government's latest article on the events, please read this article:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cp-apology-tw-with-ireland-2182532/1/20
ORIGINAL ARTICLE
Yesterday was quite a hectic day for a number of reasons! Of course things always get pretty hectic around Christmas (I hope you had a good one) but this year erepublik seems determined to be just as crazy as real life can be! A lot has happened and a lot has been discussed on the euk forums (which I encourage you to join) but I realised that nothing has been released in game. I suspect some government article or article from someone who has more of an idea than me will appear at some point, but this is my attempt at keeping the general populace of the eUK up to date.
I should also say that there will more than likely be a lot of politically motivated complaining and arguing which rears its head in the next few days in the aftermath of all this, but I would appreciate if it was left out of my article, as my only aim is to simply inform people to the best of my knowledge of what is going on
Background
Now, as I am sure you are all aware, in the last week the eUK has been involved in a campaign against Canada and Portugal to try and take the Portuguese region of Azores. A few days ago our efforts seemed to have paid off and we took Azores from Portugal. However, the Portuguese region remained in our hands for mere hours before it was taken back by Portugal in a resistance war. This war was conducted under the watchful eye of TWO (the alliance the eUK was involved in) and with their blessing.
We should be aware that ANY action we take in this game has a variety of effects, both in terms of game mechanics and beyond. In this case, the main country impacted other than those directly involved was Ireland. Now, as many of you know Ireland is a country we have been working very hard to build good relationships with over the last few months.
Ireland had planned a training war that was due to start at roughly the same time as our invasion of Newfoundland and Labrador began (N and L is the only border Canada has with either Ireland or the UK). We therefore caused a delay in the Irish training war by invading Canada first. Furthermore, we did not simply delay their training war, but we did so in order to attack and wipe Portugal, a country that many in Ireland consider a close friend. Needless to say, this caused some unease in Ireland (and Canada for that matter).
In the background, we are also currently fighting in an ongoing training war with our neighbours in Belgium. The war has been going on for around 15 days and was initially set up to provide the eUK with a war and a chance for people to earn true patriot medals and gold.
So What?
On Christmas eve, it was decided by the eUK country president that the eUK would try to attack and reclaim the Portuguese region of Azores. I don’t know whether any discussion was had among cabinet or TWO HQ about this attack, although I do know that when it all came to pass the eUK MoFA (minister of foreign affairs) resigned.
The one thing I am utterly sure of is that Ireland were not spoken to in advance. Ireland had already set in motion the beginning of the training war with Canada by making them natural enemy. However, due to game mechanics, when we conquered Newfoundland and Labrador we cut off the border between Canada and Ireland and thus declared the natural enemy proposal null.
The british CP also proposed a natural enemy against Portugal which will pass, opening up the Portuguese war once again. It is unclear whether TWO wanted the eUK to attack Portugal for a second time and we are currently getting conflicting reports (from members of eUK government) about what roll TWO have played in this.
At this point I want you to picture things from Ireland’s side: a supposedly friendly nation is hindering your planned war with another nation, in order to attack one of your allies while showing you a distinct lack of respect by not including you in any discussion or even letting you know that it is happening. How would you feel?
The Irish are pretty upset and as a result their President proposed the eUK as a natural enemy . Naturally a thread was opened on the eUK forums to discuss what was happening and the Irish president commented to say: “Our NE law will be voted Yes or No depending on next move by UK Government. We request official apologise as a sign of friendship and either route to Norway as a sign of friendship.”
It looks likely that the Irish NE proposal will pass in which case we will have 4 active battles (which in my humble opinion is not something we are likely to win…certainly not without huge drain to our finances and huge drain to our allies).
Oh well…at least Belgium still love us…right???
WRONG…It seems that at the moment we are not in the good books of any of our friends! What appears to have happened with Belgium is an entirely separate (but equally careless if true) situation.
As many of you know, the congress elections also took place yesterday. The congress elections are a time when traditionally all training wars are closed in order to ensure that all the countries involved get a full set of congressmen. However, for whatever reason, the Belgium training war was not closed and instead a time was arranged with the British CP for the eUK to attack.
However, it appears that Bigant pushed the attack button too early, which resulted in the eUK taking a Belgian region before the end of the elections. This meant that Belgium lost 10 members of congress for the next month. Like the Irish, the Belgians are pretty upset about this (if what I am being told is correct).
In fact, the Belgians have also proposed the eUK a natural enemy and are planning to take some regions as revenge for the loss of their congress. A deal has also been put in place with the CoT alliance (the alliance Belgium are part of and who have supported the eUK in battles in the past) that the eUK will not get any CoT help for the duration of Bigant’s term as country president.
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-The eUK will once again have an active battle with Portugal in the near future, although this time it is unclear whether it is supported by TWO (our alliance)
-Ireland may well attack us as a result of a large amount of disrespect paid to them by the eUK.
-Belgium and planning to attack some UK original regions as payback for the eUK carelessly costing them congressmen.
-CoT (A friendly alliance) has stated that it will not help the eUK on the battlefield until the end of the current CPs term in office.
Conclusion
Firstly, I would like to discourage people from the view that Ireland is acting selfishly or out of turn. While I wish they would not attack us, I can completely understand why they are planning to attack, and to be honest, we only have ourselves to blame. To be honest, I know a lot less about the Belgian situation so I won’t pass comment.
I would also discourage the more brave hearted among us from simply saying “let them come”…We are talking about a large number of our neighbours being pretty upset, and when you add into consideration that Ireland may well be on the way to joining ASGARD (the alliance prominent in Scandinavia) I hope you can begin to see how much trouble we would be in if things turned sour between us and our neighbours. We would be almost exclusively surrounded by enemy countries!
Finally, I would like to reiterate what I said at the start PLEASE DON’T FILL THE COMMENTS WITH POLITICAL PROPAGANDA (FROM EITHER “SIDE”) OR WITH HATE FILLED COMMENTS. I have tried to be as apolitical and informative as I can and I hope you enjoyed today’s article
Stay safe and play hard!
(Michael Crookes)
Comments
Thanks for laying it out clearly for those who don't have the time to traipse through all the threads, should hopefully explain some things to people \o/
A nice read, I would like to see more like this.
What a mess, wow.
Good informative article. Voted.
It will be hard to restore diplomatic relations with many nations.
The UK political scene has it problems too.
The coming weeks will be interesting.
informative info (if correct) well done
This should be an interesting week...
very clarifying article!!!
As ex belgian citizen, I can tell you belgian is indeed upset about the loss of flanders for congress elections.
But the purpose of the NE is not what you described in this article, but contact belgian gov members for official info.
Well the Belgian TW should never of happened - If you can't find a proper war then why waste the energy and resources farting around.
Let 'em take a few regions to assuage their hurt, we'll get 'em back later, wipe Belgium to close the war and never TW with them again. They've had ample opportunity to declare peace but they failed at game mechanics.
No More TW with Belgium!
If Ireland can't accept the fact that two nations engaging in thermonuclear war precedes and trumps their attempts at a pillow fight and the loss of 2 days is worth an attempt at Blackmail then so be it.
Ireland only have 3 options to fight. America would kill them dead, Canada ultimatly leads nowhere. Only eUK offers them future options, a chance to beat the drum of nationalism and our past record of deferrence only encourages them.
Not a penny in tribute - "Come at me Bro"
Portugal can either be wiped in a battle or even used to auto-close the Canuck war down.
Canada............well its always awesome to fight them as win or lose they are a classy bunch ('cept if Rylde's been drinking) and they are long overdue some proper sport having received a Yankee and Polish beating in recent times.
It has been disgraceful and i did say this was going to happen.We need to respect our allies or we will end up in the same situation as France
@Alfagrem, the button for peace proposal wasn't present, so how to stop a war then? Being wiped. All was arranged with you CP, but he didn't respected the agreement.
We're not looking to invade your original region. We've no problem with eUK people. Only with their CP now. Friendship between eUK and eBe will stay.
Belgium doesn't hate the UK, we just don't like your backstabbing CP. 😛
Love UK, more concerns about your CP...
Why were Ireland starting a Training war anyway agaisnt Canada now?
They can see we are at war with UK. a TW with Ireland is stupid atm and they should of waited till UK and Canada have finished throwing peebles at each other.
The question is, is this either:
a) Nerds on the internet getting riled up over misunderstandings and mistakes from several people.
b) Lucifer himself AKA BigAnt is declaring war on everything.
well said
v 99
@In fact, the Belgians have also proposed the eUK a natural enemy and are planning to take some regions as revenge for the loss of their congress.
It's sad for our congress sure. Now you are talking about revenge ... wait... maybe several players are unhappy, normal. I don't think we hate UK, no.
I was just surprised to see one attack with no NE in ebelgium.
If the eBelgians don't like BigAnt as CP then they can either impeach him or vote for someone else but they haven't/didn't.
As I understand it, this would be hard to do as the choice of eUK CP is an eUK affair and not something other nations tend to have a voice in (unless your MagicHeroes ofc 😛 )
>"Why were Ireland starting a Training war anyway agaisnt Canada now?"
Canada has CP problems of its own apparently.
"If the eBelgians don't like BigAnt as CP then they can either impeach him or vote for someone else but they haven't/didn't."
How to do this?
At least the eUK is having some action , which beats doing nothing .
Stop defending Big ant by playing down what he is doing.He is the face of the euk he is making rash and not discussed choices while at the same time upsetting our allies and friends.
Don we will not have much action except repeatedly beat down if we get wiped and upset our friends and allies.We just need to look at what happened to France do you really want to be in that situation down the line.
Why were there idiots still fighting in Belgium when we were fighting a serious war in Canada??
The situation was explained clearly 😛
Yesterday on Belgian battle eUK side Div3 a BH with 12M damage xD That's a waste
LOL upset our friends , the UK is well known for doing that in the past by past government's who have sold us down the river many times, the voters voted him in and his doing a fair job , you try to impeach him and congress voted it down , we see this from the other sides all the time, this is why the eUK will struggle to get anywhere due to the fact of a few butt hurt players who are now in the minority that is right the MINORITY in a few hours time the other side will have less power and this is a good thing for the eUK, you can keep moaning in the forum to the same set of people that use it again the minority , the minority who are trying to cling onto power being a mod or an op in the eUK room , people have had enough of it and want to unite the eUK and create a better society - let the voters talk not the handful who think they control the eUK .
The MoFA resigning shows how a complete mess we're in.
IMPEACH
cracking article voted
@Alfagrem : are you a person who loves to put troubles and make bad relationship?
I think you are a selfhish person. You just see where is YOUR interest, others you don't care.
You are maybe a big fighter but what else near that?
best regards
>"If the eBelgians don't like BigAnt as CP then they can either impeach him or vote for someone else but they haven't/didn't."
>How to do this?
That's the point Bruno....You can't as you'd be intefering with the democratic rights of a sovereign nation and there's enough RL antipathy towards dictates from Brussels without making it an eRep thing to.
Trying to tell us who we can and cannot elect isn't a sign of continued friendship.
@Alfagrem It's not Bruno's fault that BigAnt broke the deal.
The TW with Belgium was a good move, but breaking promises isn't really the way to go? Blaming the Belgians for BA sheer incompetent is rather a poor move.
Agreements are made not to be broken and honor is in man's words. I see absolutely no reason to attack Belgium on the day of congress elections and make them lose congress seats when the attack could have been postponed as it was agreed. If it was an error and not intentional ( i.e. not knowing game mechanics or not realizing the consequences of this act) then the natural thing is for UK CP to show up and apologize for this.
CoT stays with Beligum and not only because they are our member but because they are morally right and are victim of unfair treatment.
I'm looking the press in ebelgium : do you see any newspaper who is talking about that ? No
Just here. who is the incompetent in this story? who has the power to push on a buttom? a mistake one day of the congress elections... ?
You can answer for me.
what's the goal of this article in fact ? .
We'll fix this, don't worry
The Britons can do whatever they want.
They will pay the consequences.
Yes I resigned because BA was making a mess whilst ignoring me completely. Or maybe he's deliberating doing the exact things I told him not to. Not sure.. I know he was drunk, though!
give me the power of ten tigers \o/
Feels like a Mexican stand off.
UK is still a pretty cool guy, Im sure our Government will resolve this issue out.
"LOL upset our friends , the UK is well known for doing that in the past by past government's who have sold us down the river many times"
Excatly i thought we were learning from our mistakes but it seems this so called new era is treading the same mistakes we have before.
hmm... i hope the government sort this issue out...
At the end of the Day, We want to have a good friendship with Ireland because they are a good bunch of lads. But as someone has said before, communication with friends is crucial in maintaining friendships...
God help us if we have to go to war again with Ireland... But if we do... wow...
"If a country looses regions between 23rd 02:00 and 26th 06:00, the number of congress seats will not be modified."- http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/Congress_Elections
Calm down, Tony/Bruno/eBelgium.
Total number of Belgium Congress Seats:
December 30
November 28
October 27
September 30
Over reaction much? Or a eBelgium failure of game mechanics knowledge?
Pebbles are awesome.
Who are upset ? this story is just more propaganda
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cp-apology-tw-with-ireland-2182532/1/20
Over reaction like most of "experienced" players in UK, read wiki and here is update
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cp-apology-tw-with-ireland-2182532/1/20
Read my lips: I'll support BigAnt ALWAYS. And I'm ready to fight for eUK, are you ?
It's not an over-reaction BA. Ireland now think you, and the government, are morons. Belgium now think the same. CoT now think the same. Everyone now thinks the same. And when we try to help it's claimed it was a TUP conspiracy to make you look stupid. Jesus Christ I've never seen anything so retarded
Looks like BigAnt is going for the two-fer on impeachments.
As the CP you are always responsible for international diplomacy decisions and actions, whether you like it or not.