[MC]UKPP: would you consider a TUP CP candidate?
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by Michael Crookes
Michael Crookes wrote:
Hello eWorld!
I would like to start by saying that today’s article is a political piece and that as such it has the potential to cause a certain amount of political point scoring. Once again, as in my previous article, I would like to ask that you DON’T ATTACK EACH OTHER IN THE COMMENTS FOR THIS ARTICLE because I genuinely hope that this will have a positive effect on the eUK and the party in question (the UKPP)
This article has been checked over by Sir Nick and he has consented to it being released. I have taken this step in order to ensure that this does not cause irritation or offense to any member of the UKPP. I am trying my best to not offend people and I hope you can appreciate that.
This article is based on a very small issue that I believe is reflective of a bigger problem within the eUK community. It is an issue which is present in all parties in varying degrees and the only reason that I am singling out the UKPP is because I was discussing the issue with Sir Nick. I should also say that I am not a member of either party in question, so my interest in the issue is not fuelled by selfish reasons
Would you consider TUP
The question itself is a very simple one…UKPP members: would you be willing to consider a TUP candidate for country president?
Below is a section of our conversation (Sir Nick has agreed is a fair representation of our conversation) which I believe explains the situation as well as anything I could write here.
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My Concern
Genuine artists impression of me!
My biggest fear for the eUK is that sometimes we are all too closed minded to the good points which each of the other parties has to offer (again, all parties are guilty of this). However, with so much talk of peace summits and drawing a line under all this silliness, I believe that the best way forward is not to shut each other out.
Of course, I am not saying that UKPP should vote for a TUP president (or vice versa), but I am saying that we should at least show each other the courtesy of not dismissing each other out of hand. If no rival party members message to ask to be considered (even if that happens for months) then I would still hope that parties would consider those from rival parties if their rivals asked. I certainly hope my party would.
So What should happen?
Rather than start a huge argument and cause UKPP (or any other party) any issues, I simply ask that if you are a member of the UKPP that you would write a comment in this article stating that you would be willing to consider TUP candidates in future elections if the TUP candidates request it. If you could also send a message to Sir Nick Griffin that would be appreciated.
I will also say that I hope this is a genuine opportunity for those of UKPP and other parties to show that the eUK is not beyond healing. For that reason and because I am aware of the potential that there is for this article to cause complaining and arguments, I will say that if people turn the comments into an argument I will simply delete the article, which I believe would be a huge shame and miss an opportunity for improvement.
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I agree to have this posted.
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Now ask TUP out of interest please, interesting.
@bigant, I hope this article serves to all parties...and I believe TUP should consider UKPP candidates in just the same way as UKPP should consider TUP candidates. Ultimately the way to move forward is to make the eUK more important in our mentalities than any of our parties again
Good work!
I would hope that the majority of UKPP members aren't as prejusticed as SNG is. CP elections are about people, not parties.
TUP policies don't match UKPP policies so why would they vote in someone who stand sagainst everything they believe in?
......short of an external PTO ofc, in which case as incumbent they might expect 'dibs'/continuity.
and the CP elections are about parties - Look at the barracking BA got and see which parties these members came from.
Alfa, you raise some good points, I am not saying UKPP should vote for TUP necessarily, I am suggesting that ignoring any perspective candidate they have is not a good idea though. considering them and then saying no is fair enough, but rejecting someone based on parties is not a good policy imho...the best candidate could be produced by our "rival" party.
You are correct, the CP elections are about parties, what I am suggesting is that we make an effort to make the CP elections about policies once again...because they are what really matters. Of course that largely splits people into parties, but if we focus on policies then we can find common ground among the parties, so long as we focus on parties, I will never be able to be a member of 2 parties at the same time, so of course we will always disagree.
Nice bias
I agree with BA, I'd like to see a transcript of a similar conversation with a senior member of TUP, Keers or someone.
My guess is that it would be exactly the same except TUP would be replaced by UKPP, NE or 1V
Interesting article.
I see what you're getting at with this but I just couldn't see it working at any point in the near future. Only if both sides meet on the same grounds and share political ideals; would one party back another's candidate however, if this were the case then we'd just be looking at another a coalition but consisting of different parties.
I'd be interested to know if they'd back an independent whose views on governance didn't line up with theirs exactly.
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Trolled by nick onto releasing a pathetic article. Every candidate that messages UKPP gets on the ballot. Always have always will. As a party, getting support off us is a different mater. It's only really Talon that has the big enough lure and personality for UKPP. Those in TUP with enough pull to be considered as CP have many times slagged us off, worked against, trolled, lied etc etc. so is it no surprise TUP find it difficult in getting official party support from UKPP. That's not to say that members of UKPP haven't or will not vote a TUP candidate. But a UKPP candidate vs a TUP candidate in the ballot... UKPP wins every time (unless its a Emergy type figure)
@sexagenarian: No bias was intended in this article, and I think you are right, I think there would be people high up in TUP who said the same thing, and I would say it is equally wrong when they say it. I am not trying to single UKPP out as the party in the wrong, I am making a point about all parties in the euk.
TUP would back people from any party provided they fit our criteria:
1. Some experience in foreign affairs
2. Use the forums and IRC
3. Do not violate eRepublik rules
To be honest it would be a tad odd f the biggest party in the country didn't believe they had a member good enough to run for CP every 30 days.
Running for CP requires experience you know Hugh. Experience, hard work and dedication. Otherwise you end up with a situation like this month where the government's ass was saved by people who have nothing to do with them stepping in to protect the UK. Which makes us look silly.
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Why the feck are you even talking to a man with a name like Sir Nick Griffin?
No you are right Iain, but I was just saying that if a party with nearly 300 members didnt have a candidate with ministerial experience and willing to run then its a sad state of affairs for that party. Obviously there's times where not running against another parties candidate who has a great record comes into account...same with TUP o be honest.
Well, as a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure that TUP would back me if I run for President.
Petty feuds between parties are irrelevant, if somebody can do the job better than all of the other candidates then they should be elected regardless of your political relationship with them. To me this is the only way we can move forwards as a country, otherwise we get stuck with people who have no idea what is going on.
If its a free vote then I have no qualms voting for TUP. But I would be more cautious after voting for MagicHereos and the fairly unsuccessful time that followed.
UKRP member defending TUP. Anyone surprised?