[GOV] Ending the dead lock 2
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by roland_up
Thankyou for your comments for the last article of the same topic. I think there is a better solution to that, all congress discussion will be held in game, and also in the eSKofficial.freeforums.org forum. The in-game one is for those who are too lazy to visit the forum, now you can do everything in time. 🙂
The eSKofficial.freeforums.org forum will be used to more detail discussion, if you are interested.
Here's a few guidelines for the discussion and procedure:
1. To ensure the discussion are obvious to other congressmen, you should have a tag in your title, e.g. [CONGRESS] Discussion about something something... .
1a. A discussion can be started by the a congressman, the president, and member of the cabinet. Only the president and the congressmen can vote for/against a proposal.
2. All congress proposals must be first discussed in either in-game or in the forum, to ensure all the ideas are properly discussed before bring into a vote.
2a. Congress should unite and reject all proposals that has not been discussed at all.
2b. Congress should discipline any congressman who is a serial offender of starting a vote without a discussion.
3. For proposals that do not have a in-game vote, congress members can setup a vote article after a discussion is held, the vote will be conducted at the comment section of that article, e.g. the title could be [CONGRESS VOTE] Proposal to restart the food drive project
4. The side who wins the majority of votes either held in-game or under an article will the power to pass/reject the proposal.
5. A successful congress proprosal is the binding law of this country, and disciplinary action is required for anyone to break the law.
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@Puppet master this are good thoughts. But they are not sustainable if every leader that comes will change the game rules. Make it something more permanent.
"@Puppet master "
I viewed myself more of a puppet than the puppet master, since I am only doing other people's bidding. The president told me to do certain things, and I have to figure out how to do it.
Anyway, I can't force the congress to do anything to be honest if they dont pull themselves together. I can build the entire system for them, but at the end, it is up to the congress to use it.
"But they are not sustainable if every leader that comes will change the game rules. Make it something more permanent."
If the congress wills it, they can make it permanent as similar to a constitution. This is a seperate things for the game rule that is administrate by the admin, the congress rule will be based on this constitution and administrate by everyone elected to congress.
Make it like you said and it will be a very good improvement from the current system as long as you can ensure the access to it for all the congress members. The problem is that there are no disciplinary actions that can actually affect a congressman.
Because you were not even able to unban us form the IRC chat I doubt that the measures you say above can be implemented successfully in eSK with the current leadership although they are very good.
"as long as you can ensure the access to it for all the congress members."
The forum and in game are open to all.
"The problem is that there are no disciplinary actions that can actually affect a congressman."
Of course there is, you can make it so that they cannot vote for any bills that doesnt required an in-game vote.
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"Of course there is, you can make it so that they cannot vote for any bills that doesnt required an in-game vote."
How can you do that?
@Mircea
Deny them privilege to read Congress forums or to be on official IRC channels. Of course, a stable IRC is necessary to achieve the latter.
If you are looking for a puppet master, you haven't found one.
"How can you do that? "
But excluded them when we are voting/counting the vote?